51 minutes ago, DevilsRollTheDice said:

She's crushing Britney and P!nk who are actually her age.

I don't think she's crushing Britney

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Work *****	382,807,352	84,915
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48 minutes ago, ABeyBraith said:

You are redefining 'quick little singles' to suit your narrative.

Pot meet kettle

50 minutes ago, ABeyBraith said:

They are anchors that establish the specific genre thesis for two highly conceptual albums. Calling them quick little singles just because they had radio deals is stupid, lead singles are supposed to be pushed. If they were truly quick little singles, they would sound out of place on the albums yet both are essential to the sequencing and narrative of both albums.

Yes, that's generally the purpose of any albums lead single, yall are seriously so funny when it comes to talking about Beyonces music

Aligning with whatever Bey's intended definition was or not, they were literally quick little singles because they were singles that hit #1, and then quickly fell off the chart and now have very little daily streams.

17 minutes ago, HardBambi said:

I don't think she's crushing Britney

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...Baby One More Time	1,221,326,345	634,993
Oops!...I Did It Again	1,091,723,474	582,763
Gimme More	1,089,653,058	799,842
* Scream & Shout	971,685,062	358,955
Womanizer	794,875,098	397,575
Circus	584,979,797	326,197
* Hold Me Closer	523,906,995	188,825
My Only Wish (This Year)	408,914,407	1,068,040
Work *****	382,807,352	84,915
Criminal	369,321,816	326,411

Beyonce has 32 billion streams (minus DC), Britney had 14 billion. Over double. Beyonce is also outstreaming daily and has 1 fewer studio album. I'd call that crushing.

I won't argue that some of the Britney hits are obviously bigger and more remembered than the Beyonce hits. But streams are more than just cherry picked hits.

Edited Saturday at 01:05 PM3 days by DevilsRollTheDice

I think one thing that I don't see mentioned here either is that her timing in terms of where the world was in regards to music consumption was often a bit off. IASF launched when the digital era was just becoming big but by the time 4 had arrived the competition in digital sales had increased significantly, ST arrived just when streaming started to become more conscious amongst the GP and Lemonade, well we all know what she did wrong there. I think people have a hard time defining Beyoncé's hits to certain eras.

26 minutes ago, DevilsRollTheDice said:

Beyonce has 32 billion streams (minus DC), Britney had 14 billion. Over double. Beyonce is also outstreaming daily and has 1 fewer studio album. I'd call that crushing.

I won't argue that some of the Britney hits are obviously bigger and more remembered than the Beyonce hits. But streams are more than just cherry picked hits.

Current streams is not cherry picking.. right now it doesn't look like Beyonce is "crushing" Britney at all, they pretty similar actually (and Britney is laying low while Bey has had new music and tours recently)

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Garden Of Eden - 314,543

How Bad Do U Want Me - 297,688

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Texas Hold Em - 293,853

A thread where monsters can cream their pant all day long

Streaming will never gag my fave, no matter how many times the monsters cry and throw up, that drag will never stick

8 hours ago, Calvin said:

We all saw the Apple Music top 500 list. Bey was flopping there too

What was realistically going to be there?.... Only Cuff It would

2 minutes ago, Bobyonce said:

A thread where monsters can cream their pant all day long

Streaming will never gag my fave, no matter how many times the monsters cry and throw up, that drag will never stick

from "Beyonce is a lot more successful in AM" to "Beyonce and Hives don't care about streams"

It's probably a minor backlash of her doing country from her listeners + her image of being a old fashioned Pop star

Tidal, late adoption and poor playlisting. It's literally not that deep. She has the fandom to pull off good debuts, but longevity requires GP support, which you'll only get by inserting yourself in the algorithm.

Edited Saturday at 01:54 PM3 days by gustavothehuman

Because she's transitioning into a legacy act.

2 minutes ago, FrederickGa said:

from "Beyonce is a lot more successful in AM" to "Beyonce and Hives don't care about streams"

She is bigger on Apple Music

Biggest Hits ≠ Overall Streams

Idk her "I'm gold, I'm a star, I'm rich, I'm number one alabama lobster caviar hot sauce givenchy tyrant" is not working because at the end of the day Jay Z is went for Becky

29 minutes ago, James_Joint said:

Pot meet kettle

Yes, that's generally the purpose of any albums lead single, yall are seriously so funny when it comes to talking about Beyonces music

Aligning with whatever Bey's intended definition was or not, they were literally quick little singles because they were singles that hit #1, and then quickly fell off the chart and now have very little daily streams.

It's not pot meet kettle when I'm referencing the literal context of her statement which was about artistic integrity vs chasing trends. You're retroactively inventing a definition based on Spotify numbers. You're judging the songs based on how the public consumed them whereas the quote was strictly about how the artist creates them. And again, because you don't seem to be understanding, a quick little single refers to a disposable track made solely to sell with no connection to a greater body of work. A song falling off the charts after hitting #1 is a reflection of the fast paced streaming era and genre consumption, not the song's artistic nature. You're conflating front loaded consumption with throwaway music. A lead single introducing dense concept albums doesn't suddenly become a quick little single just because the GP stopped streaming it as much after the hype dies down. Your logic doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

10 minutes ago, FrederickGa said:

from "Beyonce is a lot more successful in AM" to "Beyonce and Hives don't care about streams"

I know you guys have been in the trenches for too long, that you don't read to comprehend, always ready to attack and downvote, then go cry and play the victim

Streaming will never gag my fave like little monsters what it to

One day spotify streams will be viewed as being just as irrelevant as YouTube views, instagram and Twitter followers are now. These metrics used to be hailed for a very brief minute as the be all and end all of a person's popularity. Metrics that can be so easily rigged and manipulated to form a narrative are never going to stand the test of time.

Wasn't Demi Lovato one of the most "followed" artists on instagram? And now it's like who cares. It surly didn't translate to career longevity.

2 minutes ago, Bobyonce said:

I know you guys have been in the trenches for too long, that you don't read to comprehend, always ready to attack and downvote, then go cry and play the victim

Streaming will never gag my fave like little monsters what it to

go quick where did I downvote you or something, probably you when clocked about Beyonce's horrible streaming stats outside of first week or something

13 minutes ago, gustavothehuman said:

Tidal, late adoption and poor playlisting. It's literally not that deep. She has the fandom to pull off good debuts, but longevity requires GP support, which you'll only get by inserting yourself in the algorithm.

and don't forget, the lack of GLOBAL appeal

since u went out ur way to pull her numbers go stream a song or two btch. support indie artists.

Her stans are too busy dragging Taylor, Rihanna, Gaga, Shakira, etc., instead of streaming .

Edited Saturday at 02:19 PM3 days by Broken

Setting aside the fact that she's still one of Spotify's most-streamed artists ever almost 30 years into her career (and even bigger on Apple Music) – without chasing GP-friendly vanilla music I might add – I really don't think she cares much about trying to maximise her streams, when she can break box office records no one else can match and sell out out stadiums across the world like this:

47 minutes ago, BJ1998 said:

One day spotify streams will be viewed as being just as irrelevant as YouTube views, instagram and Twitter followers are now. These metrics used to be hailed for a very brief minute as the be all and end all of a person's popularity. Metrics that can be so easily rigged and manipulated to form a narrative are never going to stand the test of time.

Wasn't Demi Lovato one of the most "followed" artists on instagram? And now it's like who cares. It surly didn't translate to career longevity.

Instagram followers is one thing and streams are another, insta is about fame and streams represents how music is consumed nowadays

OT: stream Like a prayer 😅

Funny how everyone in here is acting like Spotify's numbers aren't mostly driven by the algorithm and autoplay nowadays… we literally see the weird updates a lot of artists get almost everyday. Sure, her lack of push for the singles definitely hurts their longevity, but it's not the only reason… also, most of her discography is not as commercial as the other MPG… most of the singles getting big streams are from the pop/edm golden era (2010-2014), when she dropped a traditional r&b album and an experimental r&b/pop album. She was never chasing hits like the other girls

1 hour ago, FrederickGa said:

and don't forget, the lack of GLOBAL appeal

She does have global appeal, but it's suffering because of her neglect towards Asian, South American and Oceanic fans.