This cannot be real?

49 minutes ago, Pinkbutterflies said:

Shouldn't the biggest popstar on the planet be enough promotion for people to stream her songs?

This type of fat-shaming is rude, unnecessary, and completely unacceptable in 2025.

45 minutes ago, Sasori. said:

i feel like the streaming numbers really are the real tellers when it comes to the "smoke and mirrors" narrative beyonce has had for a while.

Smoke and mirrors because of Spotify streams but not the +400m selling tour earlier this year, that no artist has yet to surpass ?

OT: oh look another beyonce spotify thread….

Because she wants to give Kelly a chance to shine

57 minutes ago, Night Howler said:

Cause Jay-Z does not own it, so she can't commit fraud with this one like she did with Tidal. She is still heavily playlisted and payola-ed, but the GP just does not care about her anymore.

Talking about fraud when your most played artist this year was Shakira. How funny.

Joggers….

She's more lifestyle

Only younger stans are involved in obsessive replaying of same music over and over, often because their music palate is much narrower or they are in a cult (BTS, Swifties etc). I absolutely love Madonna and Beyonce, but I don't play their music that often. There's so much music out there to play the same artist over and over. Beyonce's longevity is still for the books though.

38 minutes ago, Brikenbur said:

Joggers….

She's more lifestyle

lmao I was thinking of saying this

OT: Like someone else said.. she simply doesn't care about Spotify/streaming numbers. They hardly pay so why even waste time when you make 300+ Million on a tour. it just doesn't make sense to invest heavily into streaming unless you truly just want the numbers for bragging rights.

And honestly, I do think she just aged out of the demo for heavy streaming users. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing but she obviously knows where she is good at and touring (and low-key merch cuz her prices are egregious yet sell out) every 2-4 years is enough for her.

Back catalog aged terribly and the newer music has no replay value. She keeps making tuneless music stan world PRETENDS to like, this is why the hype and numbers never match.

Edited Saturday at 06:36 AM3 days by charot

She's SO over (hence this is the billionth thread made about it)

So that the other girlies can have something too Generous Queen!

she's too local

and no, few europe countries doesnt really help

She is not relevant with the younger generation who stream and is considered "old music" and outside of her music and old videos there's nothing going on w her worth checking out for newer fans. She is far too old school in her celebrity approach to appeal to modern society too.

She had a very good run and is still able to score hits when the eras start she just lacks longevity ... so do we rly need this thread every day

And the "her music is bad and tuneless" narrative monsters keep pushing is not sticking. Time to try something else!

Edited Saturday at 07:24 AM3 days by Doogle

9 minutes ago, Sugden said:

So they are not listening to singles but whole albums and the streams are still bad? That made no sense

2 hours ago, Sugden said:

So they are not listening to singles but whole albums and the streams are still bad? That made no sense

Well yes! They listen to the album once, say "enough. I have a job or something" and do other things. They don't need to listen to the album more than once, so that's why the numbers are lessening.

Frontloaded success and LOCAL

Because she fumbled when she spent years being adamant about not having "quick little singles" and being an "album artist", only to backtrack years later by hopping on remixes to already popular songs, and releasing "quick little singles" like Break My Soul and Texas Hold 'Em.

But it's too late now, people love watching her perform, but they don't turn to her for her actual music.

and the claims about it being the fact she debuted in the 90s or that the hive listen to CDs and cassettes doesn't make any sense because Cowboy Carter had great streams its first week. The GP heard the music and chose not to hear it again, end of story.

Edited Saturday at 07:44 AM2 days by James_Joint

-refused to promote her music

-released lots of duds where she was "rapping"

-her latests releases have no replay value (last single i enjoyed was cuff it)

-she had a good run but was always somewhat local.

No Gaga, no IFPI entry, no global hits

Just as an example:

Gaga turned around her streaming game because she has WORKED an entire decade to recapture what she once lost. Ever since ASIB, Gaga has not left the limelight. She attended all events, did multiple interviews, went to radio stations, booked gigs all over the entertainment world, etc.. she became VISIBLE. And look now -> she has steady streams, her back catalog is also doing good, etc.

Beyonce has done NOTHING for the past decade besides going on tours and dropping her album and uploading pictures on instagram. Theres no push involved. No interviews, no shows, heck we dont even get MVs.

Her streaming game has NOTHING to do with the music, but everything with the fact she simply does NOTHING. So when you do nothing, you get nothing. Its that simple.

The fact shes still doing that well is a miracle tbh.

Edited Saturday at 07:51 AM2 days by Kristie Kuwa

Beyonce is an example of a "vibe artist".

Her hype doesn't match her stats

All media propaganda can't hide the fact that she's not that big among GP

12 minutes ago, James_Joint said:

Cowboy Carter had great streams its first week. The GP heard the music and chose not to hear it again, end of story.

Yet the fans still deny the tuneless and lack replay value allegations.

The hype is always there based on debut numbers but nothing holds up. Melodies and replay value serve legs.

Edited Saturday at 08:03 AM2 days by charot

Because she is just a legacy act with a small but loud fandom. Looking at the monthly listeners, she is spot 45. That's a „Queen" spot.

Edited Saturday at 08:23 AM2 days by zuper

30 minutes ago, James_Joint said:

Because she fumbled when she spent years being adamant about not having "quick little singles" and being an "album artist", only to backtrack years later by hopping on remixes to already popular songs, and releasing "quick little singles" like Break My Soul and Texas Hold 'Em.

You're misinterpreting what she said. Shes not against releasing singles, she was criticising artists who chase singles at the expense of a cohesive album. Break My Soul and Texas Hold 'Em aren't quick little singles lmao, they are lead singles introducing conceptual albums. Quick little singles are disposable songs released just to become hits with no artistic home. Renaissance and Cowboy Carter are both very cohesive albums and both the leads fit on those albums. I am really fascinated by the way a large portion of you have such awful comprehension skills.

35 minutes ago, Donquizote said:

Beyonce is an example of a "vibe artist".

Her hype doesn't match her stats

All media propaganda can't hide the fact that she's not that big among GP

I dont understand why you go into EVERY Beyonce thread that gives u room to be shady and just lie?

Bey is among the best selling and most successful musicians of all time, even if she did nothing for the rest of her life. Her reputation comes from her past 25+ years in the industry and is anything but "smokes and mirrors".