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NY Mag: "We've reached peak gay sluttiness"

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It's 4 p.m. on a Sunday, and I'm at a friend's loft in Bushwick where he is hosting a party, a pregame for some and afters for others, offering tank-topped gays a pit stop amid the crush of must-attend raves over the weekend. There are about 15 of us here, mostly 25- to 40-year-old childless gays who live along the M train, the Dimes Square–to–Ridgewood express that has replaced the L as a stand-in for hipsterdom now that Williamsburg is a heterosexual-financier hub. In the bedroom, roughly a dozen baggies of drugs are scattered on the nightstand. A mustachioed gay helpfully explains the pharmacopoeia: "We've got 3MMC, 4MMC, cocaine, and keta. I cut the corners off the 3MMC because it's hard to tell the difference." Another friend interjects, "Oh, stop! It's so easy. 3MMC is whiter." "Not always," Mustache says.

 

My friend Davis, 36, a creative director, slumps down next to me, his third in tow. Davis and the third got into a sought-after rave; his boyfriend did not. You can imagine the tension this can cause. "I need to take a load off," he says, pulling a bag of mephedrone from his tiny purse before crushing it between what look like two ultrathick credit cards but are in fact objets d'art designed to soften nose candy. Glancing toward the kitchen, I see Mustache removing tiny plastic pipettes from a bag, ready for filling with G, the liquid club drug currently in vogue for its energetic, erotic effects. (3MMC and 4MMC are cocainelike uppers but not necessarily aphrodisiacs.)

 

... On the last day of Pride Month, I was at Twinks vs. Dolls, the mock sporting event and violent celebration of the gender spectrum organized by the Bed-Stuy queer bar Singers. The warehouse in the middle of Sunset Park was pulsating with hot guys in big shorts and tiny tanks. A handsome six-foot-four New Zealander offered me coke from a nasal-spray bottle (the cool way to do it now). I then ran into my friend Eddy, a 36-year-old graphic designer, who was already dosing G. He showed me an app on his phone called G-Safe that logs the time and amount of your dose, then sends notifications to your Apple Watch when it's time to re-up. The minimum gap you can select between doses is one hour, reducing the potential for "G-ing out." No need to set an alarm.

 

...If Grindr's IPO in 2022 represented a Buttegiegian ideal — taking something countercultural and sanding its edges to fit Wall Street — the Sniffies era represents the other side of the horseshoe: taking something that's now mainstream and making it cool again. It's no longer gay culture that has captured the Zeitgeist but gay sex. Hell, even your dad knows what poppers are. We are through the lubed-up looking glass. With an Amazon harness wrapped snug across your chest, sluttiness becomes a consumer identity, one that can be purchased and performed, if not necessarily acted on. Now OnlyFans is a respectable career path, and even Deloitte consultants are posting hog on Close Friends. Perception has peaked. But true horniness — like God's light or a Cialis-enabled boner — remains constant.

 

...There's a sense among us that the zoomer represents a desexualized subject, maybe because we don't have as much access to them as we'd like. But maybe this is the plight of the graying otter, who, try as he might, can never close the horniness gap with these prolific chiseled twinks. Ryan, the urban planner, told me about a recent date he went on with a 28-year-old. The man was curious about G, revealing that his friends were all experimenting with it now. Their talk shifted to intos and kinks. "I'm not opposed to bottoming," Ryan confided. "But I haven't bottomed in, like, five years. And he was like, 'Well, I just got HoleTox, and it changed my life! You should try it!'" Just when you thought sex couldn't get any more frictionless, HoleTox is Botox for your anus, which relaxes the muscles and makes bottoming easier. And since it's functional, not cosmetic, it can be covered by insurance. Maybe we don't even need Zohran after all. We already have gay-sex socialism.

 

...Still, while New York remains a hyperpermissive environment, it's not inconceivable the administration's sights could fix on any number of tentpoles in the new sexual paradigm, be they nightlife, recreational drugs, HoleTox injections, or the forced sale of Sniffies to Palantir. Already, Medicaid cuts threaten PrEP coverage, and at least five grants studying Doxy PEP have been terminated. It's not unreasonable to think, as Rome burns or Los Angeles does, that we may as well party. "Monkeypox was a real jolt of caution," says Nick the chemist. "All of this can go away in an instant." Nothing is promised to us. Get thee to a pump-and-dump.

Well, has it been reached for yall? Is hedonism back en vogue? Discuss :celestial5:

 

https://www.thecut.com/article/ghb-doxypep-sniffies-peak-gay-sluttiness-era-nyc.html

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  • drugs are very in, people who use them love to normalize them and then they surround themselves with other users. and where are drugs there is sex. this writer makes a lot of far fetched assumptions,

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    reading this feels a little dystopian  i'm all up for sexual liberation but theres a thin line. just be careful everyone. man or woman, gay or straight. doesn't matter   addiction and illnes

  • Not to be all "not like the other gays" but I'm so glad that I'm not like the other gays.   

Tea, open Sniffies in NYC and you will see what they're talking about. I love being a

 

 

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drugs are very in, people who use them love to normalize them and then they surround themselves with other users. and where are drugs there is sex. this writer makes a lot of far fetched assumptions, like onlyfans being normalized career path. i think it's a voice from a very specific bubble that thinks, or pretends for click bait purposes, that they represent something bigger.

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I thought this was an average Tuesday for NYC gay sluts for the past 50 years. :coffee2: Young Steven is just waking up to his culture, his NYC white gay drug culture.

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I'm sure straight people know a lot more about gay sex than gay people do since they seem so obsessed with it for some reason. :cm:

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reading this feels a little dystopian :biblio: i'm all up for sexual liberation but theres a thin line. just be careful everyone. man or woman, gay or straight. doesn't matter

 

addiction and illnesses (mental and physical) are not worth one night (or several) night stands 

 

don't let porn rot your brain. 

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Regular attendees at PnP orgies in NYC would argue that hedonism never went out of vogue, I'd guess. But the thing about this article and PnP orgies in general is that they shouldn't be synonymous with the type of sexual liberation that hedonists seek to achieve. Look, I respect consenting adults can do whatever the hell they want, but mixing hard drugs and alcohol and spending all day hopping between sexual partners, potentially unprotected, isn't as cool as this article makes it out to be. :skull: Which opens the conversation of how impressionable stuff like this is to younger gay men, seeking the validation of being "cool" within the community, and perhaps forgetting how dangerous this can be.

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42 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

And he was like, 'Well, I just got HoleTox, and it changed my life! You should try it!'" Just when you thought sex couldn't get any more frictionless, HoleTox is Botox for your anus, which relaxes the muscles and makes bottoming easier. And since it's functional, not cosmetic, it can be covered by insurance. Maybe we don't even need Zohran after all. We already have gay-sex socialism.

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I think the journalist decided to hit "publish" while still under the influence of G, Cocaine, 3MMC, 4MMC, and special k. :celestial:

 

Some people have weird kinks and a sex addiction, and if they keep it among themselves, then fine!

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Not to be all "not like the other gays" but I'm so glad that I'm not like the other gays. :redface:

 

52 minutes ago, jakeisphat said:

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I think the journalist decided to hit "publish" while still under the influence of G, Cocaine, 3MMC, 4MMC, and special k. :celestial:

 

Maybe it's going too far…

 

lowkey h8 major city gheys

3 minutes ago, theboyismine said:

Imagine the smell at that house:rip:

Oh, you don't like the smell of liquor sweat, Swiss Navy, smegma and open a$$?

1 hour ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

Tea, open Sniffies in NYC and you will see what they're talking about. I love being a

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Achilles. said:

Not to be all "not like the other gays" but I'm so glad that I'm not like the other gays. :redface:

 

Literally same. :skull: When I was younger and newly out there would have been a time that hearing stories like this would have evoked some sort of jealousy in me, along with hearing about other tropes associated with the gay male community. But now I'm older I really don't feel that way at all.

This felt like a dystopian read honestly. It is crazy how much drugs are becoming more and more commonplace not just in the community but everywhere. I've never been comfortable with it and while it is to each their own, I am afraid that there will come a point where it will all tip over the edge.

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The thing is most gays are not like this at all but this gets to most coverage. The percentage of gays that are actually in these situations must be low in most places but super high in big cities 

1 hour ago, Princess Aurora said:

I just googled  HoleTox, and WTF was that?:biblio: 

yall would be surprised at the kinds of things offered at gay mens health clinics in major metropolitan areas :shutup:  Google "p shot" next 

1 minute ago, Goaty said:

yall would be surprised at the kinds of things offered at gay mens health clinics in major metropolitan areas :shutup:  Google "p shot" next 

that's enough internet for today, I googled and I feel like your avi

mostly white muscle gays with fake office/"creative" jobs whose personality is 90% sex and drugs, ESPCIALLY those who live in nyc…ik they're technically part of the queer family, but they're so unnerving irl to me as someone who is none of those things, and it feels even weirder that they're kinda the face of gay men in the us :rip:

1 minute ago, Digitalism said:

The thing is most gays are not like this at all but this gets to most coverage. The percentage of gays that are actually in these situations must be low in most places but super high in big cities 

Yeah, I've always thought it's been detrimental to the community so that much of our media and so many of our organizations are based in the big cities. They're so far removed from what life is like for the rest of us. :rip:

Drugs and sex are their personality. They're some of the most plainly uninteresting people I've ever come across and talked to. To a certain degree, I personally think it's a type of mental defect. Something's not right. I ultimately don't care what consenting adults do with each other, but I just hate whenever they try to normalize these types of scenarios—looking at me like I'm the crazy one because I don't want any part of it.

 

Sex is great, I get in the mood like anyone else, but there's a limit to what I'm willing to engage in and with whom. At this point, I've just had to become blunt, however disrespectful I may come across whenever I'm faced with people like this; because, no, we're all not "looking for the same thing."

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