Riverbank Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Quote No one gets married thinking they'll get divorced, in the same way we don't board a plane expecting to crash. But I really never thought I would get divorced. Especially not just after giving birth to my first child and especially not in the shadow of my husband's new relationship with a celebrity. Quote Both of us fiercely love our son 100 percent of the time, regardless of how our parenting time is divided. As for me, days with my son are sunny. Days when I can't escape the promotion of a movie associated with the saddest days of my life are darker. Quote Even as people from my past have reached out to say they saw my face in a tabloid, my patients have remained silent. Was some algorithmic or karmic force protecting my patients from seeing a tabloid drama in which I play the role of a voiceless ex-wife? Full article: 10
Keter Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) This poor woman. But she'll be laughing last by the looks of it. Edited 17 hours ago by Keter
Selegend Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago this whole story is so sad for her and the fact that after the movie came out it feels like it never happened since it got 100% overshadowed by the movie itself being great must feel even worse for her. 10
Communion Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Quote While our partnership has changed, our parenthood has not. Both of us fiercely love our son 100 percent of the time, regardless of how our parenting time is divided. Quote My entire adult life, I feared that loss of control and postpartum depression would destroy me. One day in London, I looked up and found that they had both arrived. And I am okay. If I can't be invisible anymore, I may as well introduce myself. The essay basically confirming he told her he wanted a divorce while filming still in London, meaning that there was no secret affair happening behind her back. Though she lowkey sounds lovely and incredibly well-read and seemingly at a much different level of success in her chosen career than Ethan and what he wanted out it life that it reads like he was a drag on her and their marriage a mismatch. She should go find a rich professional in her field and enjoy being two private successful doctors together. 9
wantedyoutogrow Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago I really don't gaf but if we get a "true story" live performance out of this I will give her her 8.5's 2
Bewitched Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago All I can I say is this relationship can't end soon enough. Ariana is my ult fav but she should have never gotten with him. Even if Ethan and his ex wife weren't together when they started dating they were still married and they had a literal newborn baby. 13 3
Dolce Vita Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago i feel bad for everyone involved because this is a mess chile. my thoughts are with her baby 4
Beyonnaise Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago She's such an intelligent person and good writer. We support you Lilly 8
Communion Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 27 minutes ago, Truth Teller said: So, how are they making it worse for her? They're personally not. It's actually a shame people are so obsessed with hating Ariana and resentful of her ongoing success that the OP didn't realize the article isn't about Ariana and about Ethan's ex-wife speaking on her career as a therapist and reflecting on that and her patients. She mainly writes about how she had much of her life planned and is someone who values control over life, and enjoys the role of a therapist because the function of a therapist is to be an anonymous slate your patient can project onto. And she's reflecting on how much of the tabloid gossip about everything suddenly made her feel no longer anonymous. She basically admits she recognized her marriage was beginning to fall apart the moment Ethan was cast for Wicked and that such a huge life change for them - Ethan essentially getting his big break after years of struggling and having to move to a new country - was going to occur at the exact same time as a huge familial change. That even a female therapist who specializes in women's health would still approach life emotionally instead of analytically and walk into a common mistake couples make postpartum. Debunked cheating scandals are more buzzy, sure - her essay in passing seems to confirm Ethan broke the news to her of wanting a divorce while they were filming in London - but it's the commonality of it all, even for someone who would be professionally positioned to spot their marriage being a mismatch, that's the more interesting reality. She basically was far more successful than him in her career, largely subsidized his efforts as a thespian, and yet still ended up at two different stages in their lives. Ariana requires no inclusion for this to be interesting. Her presence is just an unfortunate after-thought and coincidence. No one would be this nosy if their divorce resulted in his rebound being like.. Michelle Yeoh. Edited 17 hours ago by Communion 12 1
family.guy123 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Communion said: The essay basically confirming he told her he wanted a divorce while filming still in London, meaning that there was no secret affair happening behind her back. Though she lowkey sounds lovely and incredibly well-read and seemingly at a much different level of success in her chosen career than Ethan and what he wanted out it life that it reads like he was a drag on her and their marriage a mismatch. She should go find a better man and a decent father to raise their family together. Fixed it for ya. There's more to life than money.
Popular Post JoJo Posted 17 hours ago Popular Post Posted 17 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Vegvisir said: She needs to move the f*ck on. Bowen Yang said flat out on his podcast that there was no cheating or anything going on during filming, and that Ari's relationship with Ethan started AFTER he split with his ex. That's a pretty bold statement that could easily be turned into a defamation lawsuit, but I don't hear her saying anything about that! It's very weird to bring up Bowen Yang, someone who was not involved in the relationship at all, to shut down a person who dealt with a very public divorce. Also, why is Ariana allowed to release an entire album about the scandal (which is her right) but Ethan's ex-wife can't say anything? 8 38 2
Popular Post Velvet Night Posted 17 hours ago Popular Post Posted 17 hours ago What a beautiful, heartbreaking piece, I'm glad she's taking her power back. Leaving your wife postpartum is truly such a vile thing for someone to do. Ethan Slater is the definition of a piece of ****! 12 12
Vegvisir Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 7 minutes ago, JoJo said: It's very weird to bring up Bowen Yang, someone who was not involved in the relationship at all, to shut down a person who dealt with a very public divorce. Also, why is Ariana allowed to release an entire album about the scandal (which is her right) but Ethan's ex-wife can't say anything? Hmm maybe I brought him up because Bowen was: a) in the Wicked movie with Ariana and Ethan b) became close friends with Ariana while working with her c) he felt the need to say something on his very popular podcast because he was upset that flat out lies were being spread about his friend Like... we get it, you hate Ari, but at this point y'all are just being wilfully ignorant. And no one said anything about who's allowed to do what, but I will say that making a whole body of music to express yourself in abstract ways is one thing, and publishing very intimate essays detailing the matter over a year later is a very different (and destructive) approach. 13
Communion Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, JoJo said: It's very weird to bring up Bowen Yang, someone who was not involved in the relationship at all, to shut down a person who dealt with a very public divorce. It is funny how this all becomes a game of telephone and the bolded becomes an accidental sleight of hand that implies something that's not true. Bowen simply confirmed that Ethan and Ariana never started dating until after filming wrapped and Ethan was divorced, as someone on set and friends with Ariana. His comments debunking the cheating accusation never addressed Lilly Jay, as this is the first time Lilly Jay has ever spoken on this. That essentially gives him the same credibility - likely more - than all the anonymous sources claiming to be friends of Lilly Jay who started the debunked cheating rumors. All three (A,E,L) have now said something about what happened and none have felt it important to make any accusation against anyone else. Lily Jay has now spoken directly about her divorce and what it felt like for her husband to want a divorce without ever accusing Ethan of cheating, while Ariana quite literally released a song explicitly saying she would never be the other woman in a relationship. Both women could inevitably have bad taste in men in wanting to be with someone seemingly below their own success while neither having actually done anything wrong or unfair to the other. Edited 17 hours ago by Communion 3
Popular Post Riverbank Posted 17 hours ago Author Popular Post Posted 17 hours ago I'm not sure if assuming Lily and Ethan's marriage was already a "mismatch" (implying that Ethan and Ari are a better match) is the smartest way for Ariana stans to do damage control for their fave. Especially given what we've learned about him from this thinkpiece 23
JoJo Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Vegvisir said: Hmm maybe I brought him up because Bowen was: a) in the Wicked movie with Ariana and Ethan b) became close friends with Ariana while working with her c) he felt the need to say something on his very popular podcast because he was upset that flat out lies were being spread about his friend Like... we get it, you hate Ari, but at this point y'all are just being wilfully ignorant. And no one said anything about who's allowed to do what, but I will say that making a whole body of music to express yourself in abstract ways is one thing, and publishing very intimate essays detailing the matter over a year later is a very different (and destructive) approach. 1. I don't even know where you got that I hate Ariana from. I've been following her music since Sweetener and I loved her in Wicked. 2. You said "She needs to move the **** on," which imo is dismissive. Again, she was involved in a very public divorce. There's nothing wrong with her taking her story back. 4 10
Communion Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, Riverbank said: 'm not sure if assuming Lily and Ethan's marriage was already a "mismatch" > highly successful mental health professional who had largely achieved personal and professional fulfillment by the age of 30, ready to start a family with someone she had been with for over a decade > struggling thespian and actor whose first movie roles did not come until his 30s, with him ready to start a new stage of his life, with his career just now starting Girly, some of y'all giving y'all don't know anyone in real life if you're confused and think Ariana Grande is needed to mess up what was already on a crash course for disaster. Let alone, by the very essay you've linked, Miss Lilly Jay seemingly disagrees with you. (It will also shock you to learn most people do not also form a parasocial bond with whoever their favorite pop star is dating and have no issue with her dating a dud - her taste in men is chronically bad!) 5
Jotham Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago It's nice that Ethan is still involved with their son despite their separation. 1 hour ago, Communion said: Though she lowkey sounds lovely and incredibly well-read and seemingly at a much different level of success in her chosen career than Ethan and what he wanted out it life that it reads like he was a drag on her and their marriage a mismatch. She should go find a rich professional in her field and enjoy being two private successful doctors together. I recently found out that they were high school sweethearts and it all makes sense. They seem like they were childhood sweethearts but eventually their relationship ran its course as they pursued different careers and trajectories in their lives. 4
SupremeGoddess Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Vegvisir said: She needs to move the f*ck on. Bowen Yang said flat out on his podcast that there was no cheating or anything going on during filming, and that Ari's relationship with Ethan started AFTER he split with his ex. That's a pretty bold statement that could easily be turned into a defamation lawsuit, but I don't hear her saying anything about that! damn illiteracy, another bad symptom of hearing ariana's music 14 1
ariananext Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago She sounds lovely and very intelligent, I really felt for her while reading, it must be horrible to realize your relationship is falling apart while you're trying to navigate your new life as a parent, it feels like she had to do that alone while he was busy with his (first?) huge project so he probably never really got into the new lifestyle/mentality of being a parent - not saying he doesn't love his child, but if he left as soon as he was born he was simply not emotionally and physically invested as her, and that must have impacted their relationship too. Someone else, knowing the narrative that's been going around, would've taken advantage of it and tried to paint Ariana (and Ethan) badly, I'm glad she didn't, it's clear that they grew apart while she was figuring out her new life and he was filming and they started dating when they broke up, from what they all said about this issue, things couldn't be more clear. 4
smartalek22 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Am I the only one that read the title as Lil Tay 1 1
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