celeb news Jay-Z's lawyer calls for case dismissal after accuser has many story inconsistencies

[ImpressMeMuch]

someone's reasoning to not believe this woman being "well Beyonce would have left him if he was bad" is insaaaane

[Kh-Loud]

I'm not going to speculate or assume anything due to the respect I have for Beyoncé.  I hope she and the kids are okay!!

Edited Monday at 11:33 PM by Kh-Loud

[Pud]

44 minutes ago, MP3 said:

There is no smoke whitout fire

Actually, often there is. 
 

The "smoke" in this instance has, up 'til now, been baseless tik tok conspiracy theories 

[QueenBLadyG]

Show your face! Glad he is fighting this if it's not true! People are so ready for the downfall of this man for some very odd reason. They want to humble and punish him and Bey for merely being so successful and adored, all while being Black. It's very weird seeing the responses and call to action when Trump, a felon, is in office. 

[Virgos Groove]

I always believe victims and it's the same here. May justice be brought.

[QueenBeyoncé]

13 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

I always believe victims and it's the same here. May justice be brought.

I believe real victims too but when you don't add your suppose "rapist" in your og filing only after your lawyer's failed blackmail attempt.. something in the milk ain't right. Then the history of this fraud lawyer who's been sued, I'm going to question it 

Edited Tuesday at 12:22 AM by QueenBeyoncé

[Jon Snow]

29 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said:

I believe real victims too but when you don't add your suppose "rapist" in your og filing only after your lawyer's failed blackmail attempt.. something in the milk ain't right. Then the history of this fraud lawyer who's been sued, I'm going to question it 

As a Beyoncé stan, I kindly ask you to stop posting. This is not a good look for you, for the Hive and for Beyoncé herself

 

We may not know the truth yet, but we should never discredit an accusation like this unless it's proven to be false

[Polgg48]

skip the result out of this, only valid known celeb or certain famous figures ala cassie in this case could persuade more evidences and digging rabbit hole during investigation. as far as diddy thing still far away from over, jay is just in position as j.lo for allegedly involvement and we will be forget about this news by next week.

[Glow]

Not surprised. Grammys and Halftime show about to be a mess

 

Y'all not dragging Bey like y'all did Minaj. 

[dumbsparce]

14 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

As a Beyoncé stan, I kindly ask you to stop posting. This is not a good look for you, for the Hive and for Beyoncé herself

No one in their right mind thinks this person represents anyone but themselves. Pls, we are not 12 year olds. Let them continue showing their ass.

[FierceBitch]

The fact that it came so easy for her mother to blatantly lie and say she was hacked about liking a post tells me everything i needed to know about them. Yes them because anyone who stands by that man is an enabler. 

[Xtina23]

2 hours ago, RiseAndShine said:

I don't know what Tina Knowles is more addicted to, social media or bad plastic surgery.

 

She needs to deactivate her Instagram because no one believes she's been hacked for the millionth time. 

[Cbreezy]

1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said:

I always believe victims and it's the same here. May justice be brought.

I say: yes, always believe victims. 

 

HOWEVER....

 

I think this tends to be conflated with "always believe accusers". A mantra I fundamentally do not agree with. Sorry. 

 

I take the stance that accusations must be proven to establish victimhood. 

 

For those who have genuinely been done wrong, yes, it must be incredibly hard and brave to find the courage to speak up. But I think it is extremely obtuse and even more dangerous to assume that because real victims exist that others won't and actively aren't abusing the system in the name of financial gain. 

 

I keep saying it, but it's no different to me saying the user above me woke up this morning and slapped me in the face... and y'all all believing it...just because I said so. 

 

Surely burden of proof and due process are still...a thing?

 

I can't be convinced that most of y'all approach ish in your real life with that type of hasty logic. Especially when it comes to things you feel aren't true or misconstrued about you. 

 

I am the furthest thing from a celeb apologist, in no way a Jay stan, and proudly wave the flag for Accountability Culture (so anyone who actually did what he's accused of ought to be thrown under the jail). But some of y'all RUSHING to declare belief without a lick of proof or evidence laid out in court is so weird to me. Without sounding rude, it literally doesn't present as smart, academic, or even rational in any way.

[Taemira]

Beyonce should divorce him to prove she is not an accomplice.

[Devin]

the level of excitement some of yall have… 

[QueenBeyoncé]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

As a Beyoncé stan, I kindly ask you to stop posting. This is not a good look for you, for the Hive and for Beyoncé herself

 

We may not know the truth yet, but we should never discredit an accusation like this unless it's proven to be false

And let me kindly tell you, I'll post what I want. Hope that helps 

[KingBeyonce.]

14 hours ago, punisher said:

it's hard not to drag beyonce in this when she was just making birthday posts for diddy and showing videos hanging out with him 

The lady who made bday posts so often that her fanbase was jokingly referring to her website as a birthday blog?  that's supposed to prove what?

I just think it's crazy how there's finally actually something for OBH to skulldrag her for (potentially staying with him even after these allegations) but yall are still grasping at straws with other circumstantial things. Odd lol.

[Junlin]

Did JayZ shut down ATRL for this.  JAIL!!!

[ImpressMeMuch]

3 hours ago, QueenBeyoncé said:

I believe real victims too but when you don't add your suppose "rapist" in your og filing only after your lawyer's failed blackmail attempt.. something in the milk ain't right. Then the history of this fraud lawyer who's been sued, I'm going to question it 

You are missing the whole point of believing victims or are blinded by your stanning

 

Fraud lawyers can still prey on valid and true clients. The point is to believe the woman he represents until proven otherwise. 
 

Like, just breathe. I promise you Beyoncé isn't going to be disappointed in you for waiting for the truth to come out, either way. She's the queen of "saying less" so follow her lead. 

Edited Tuesday at 03:39 AM by ImpressMeMuch

[ImpressMeMuch]

Only 21 pages and the server didn't even go down (except for sponsored, I mean scheduled, maintenance) 

 

interesting… 

[Soda Pop Queen]

20 hours ago, AlanRickman1946 said:

If she were dead with no way of defending herself then they would definitely mention her.

 

19 hours ago, Mariya Takeuchi said:

I've never heard anything about her being connected to **** like this. do you think this because of Jaguar Wright or have i missed something?

No, I haven't watched Jaguar since she first got on the internet lol. She's dis-info. Nip immediately popped into my head as a potential because of the drug connection. Wasn't diddles an alleged drug dealer as well? If the female was forced to watch, then it was in trade for something.... or perhaps she was already "sedated" prior to. She was at the 2000 VMAs with BB in tow. 

[ABeyBraith]

3 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

I say: yes, always believe victims. 

 

HOWEVER....

 

I think this tends to be conflated with "always believe accusers". A mantra I fundamentally do not agree with. Sorry. 

 

I take the stance that accusations must be proven to establish victimhood. 

 

For those who have genuinely been done wrong, yes, it must be incredibly hard and brave to find the courage to speak up. But I think it is extremely obtuse and even more dangerous to assume that because real victims exist that others won't and actively aren't abusing the system in the name of financial gain. 

 

I keep saying it, but it's no different to me saying the user above me woke up this morning and slapped me in the face... and y'all all believing it...just because I said so. 

 

Surely burden of proof and due process are still...a thing?

 

I can't be convinced that most of y'all approach ish in your real life with that type of hasty logic. Especially when it comes to things you feel aren't true or misconstrued about you. 

 

I am the furthest thing from a celeb apologist, in no way a Jay stan, and proudly wave the flag for Accountability Culture (so anyone who actually did what he's accused of ought to be thrown under the jail). But some of y'all RUSHING to declare belief without a lick of proof or evidence laid out in court is so weird to me. Without sounding rude, it literally doesn't present as smart, academic, or even rational in any way.

The most sane and rational take I've seen on the internet today. Could not agree more. And this isn't me being biased, I've wanted Beyoncé to divorce Jay since Lemonade. This actually applies to most things in general, if someone is accused of something they're automatically guilty? None of you find that scary? 

[loveisdead9582]

3 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

I say: yes, always believe victims. 

 

HOWEVER....

 

I think this tends to be conflated with "always believe accusers". A mantra I fundamentally do not agree with. Sorry. 

 

I take the stance that accusations must be proven to establish victimhood. 

 

For those who have genuinely been done wrong, yes, it must be incredibly hard and brave to find the courage to speak up. But I think it is extremely obtuse and even more dangerous to assume that because real victims exist that others won't and actively aren't abusing the system in the name of financial gain. 

 

I keep saying it, but it's no different to me saying the user above me woke up this morning and slapped me in the face... and y'all all believing it...just because I said so. 

 

Surely burden of proof and due process are still...a thing?

 

I can't be convinced that most of y'all approach ish in your real life with that type of hasty logic. Especially when it comes to things you feel aren't true or misconstrued about you. 

 

I am the furthest thing from a celeb apologist, in no way a Jay stan, and proudly wave the flag for Accountability Culture (so anyone who actually did what he's accused of ought to be thrown under the jail). But some of y'all RUSHING to declare belief without a lick of proof or evidence laid out in court is so weird to me. Without sounding rude, it literally doesn't present as smart, academic, or even rational in any way.

This. While Jay has been around some very questionable people/circumstances, there's no smoking gun here… yet. I think it's important to make sure that the accuser's have the right to be heard but until such a time that evidence is presented or a court of law declares him guilty the online mob needs to hold off on lighting the metaphorical pitchforks. 

[Lovett]

5 hours ago, Glow said:

Not surprised. Grammys and Halftime show about to be a mess

 

Y'all not dragging Bey like y'all did Minaj. 

Until Beyoncé jumps online and starts lying about, inciting hatred towards and actively attacking the alleged victim, why on earth would we treat her the same as Nicki here? It's not comparable and you know damn well that it's not.

[LadyDiana]

6 hours ago, QueenBLadyG said:

Show your face! Glad he is fighting this if it's not true! People are so ready for the downfall of this man for some very odd reason. They want to humble and punish him and Bey for merely being so successful and adored, all while being Black. It's very weird seeing the responses and call to action when Trump, a felon, is in office. 

AMEN