base talk Harvard prof claims Taylor is successful partly because she's white, tall and blonde

[trainsskyscrapers]

20 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said:

They're fave could only wish to write those albums without the need of 50 other co-writers 

*Their*

This is what happens when one person writes all of the songs and has no one they trust to refine the final product.

[crymelanie]

42 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said:

The whisperer, exactly 

You're so jobless and unaware of your fave's screechings

Edited November 12 by crymelanie

[Onyxmage]

We didnt need a Harvard Professor to tell us this. 

[MardinBeksloy]

1 hour ago, TayDuaStan said:

And most of the time those fans are white themselves 

[ttsmu]

38 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said:

Their fave could only wish to write those albums without the need of 50 other co-writers 

karma is a cat

[Phaunzie]

Well, the prof hypothesis has been proven right. So scientifically no lies were said. 

[BlazingLovatic]

Not the title saying "claims" when it is a literal fact lol

[ImpressMeMuch]

1 hour ago, Dula Peep said:

Would she be half as successful if she was black?….. 

considering she came up in country, heck no lol

[ImpressMeMuch]

anyhow, this is a stupid take 

 

like it's obviously true if you hold any agreement with the concept of white privilege... it doesn't discount her work but it's obviously a fact

[no_better]

A radical claim made for the sake of contributing to the scholarship

[loveisdead9582]

I mean… she's not technically wrong - especially when she was first starting out. Looking like the small town All-American girl stereotype definitely didn't hurt when she was solely doing country music. I think that by the time she transitioned to pop the talent was what kept the fans and made new ones. 

[Daddy]

Well, duh. She's the most plain canvas the kids can project themselves onto. That paired with inoffensive pseudo-poetic lyrics is the jackpot. There's a reason 99% of her fans look the same. But every pop girl is some kind of archetype people hold on to. I for example stan her total opposite who's is also a cliche in itself.

[dumbsparce]

The race card when humanity goes extinct:

 

[Kern]

1 hour ago, SupremeGoddess said:

Taylor isn't really that great of a songwriter when you compare her to actual songwriters like Joni Mitchell or Carole King or Patti Smith, even more pop oriented artists like Madonna have written much better material

Taylor could never write a The Magdalene Laundries or a Mer Girl to save her life

 

What she does do well enough is craft a narrative storytelling-like effect in her lyrics but it's usually all very basic and above the surface. She's just lucky most people (a majority of her stans included) aren't very cultured or clever so they all think her music is some sort of holy ground (reference intended) 

I'm sorry but this is such a weird take. Joni, Caroline King and Patti Smith were never making pop music and Madonna was always making dance pop music. Taylor Swift does typical guitar singer-songwriter type of pop and she just happens to be very good at making her lyrics appeal to masses and that is not a bad thing - that actually requires wit and is also literally the point of pop music.  

and I'm not really a Taylor fan but calling her fans not cultured or clever and assuming they don't listen to Joni Mitchell or Madonna's deeper cuts and are not capable of appreciating their lyricism is giving „I'm so special because I know old niche artists like Joni Mitchell or little known songs like Mer Girl unlike Taylor Swift fans who are basic" lol 

[Bey_Rihstan]

Well.. Yes? Only certain sectors of Swifties would disagree. It's not really a bad thing but it is apart of her appeal. Also the fact that she presents as inoffensive, awkward and relatable, has blue eyes and has a modelesque frame. It appeals to the masses

 

It's the same reason why we have so few dark skinned Black female artists that became big stars... and if (IF) they get there, it's only for a few years. They don't "Appeal" to the masses 

[Bey_Rihstan]

2 hours ago, TayDuaStan said:

These women also benefit from white privilege yes 

[Le Grande]

Partly? That's all she has going for her.

[Doctor Dick]

2 hours ago, TayDuaStan said:

And your point is what? They're all white and Gaga specifically blew up when she died her hair blonde. 

 

Each of them had a similar peak (except Ariana) and those peaks were bigger than any black woman's. You're just proving the point. 

Edited November 12 by Doctor Dick

[Rep2000]

2 hours ago, SupremeGoddess said:

Are those records your prime example of great songwriting? Swifties try listening to music released before 2012 challenge

 

ATRL try listening to music released after 2012 challenge, since we all know ATRL's music taste is still stuck in 2010.

Edited November 12 by Rep2000

[Bewitched]

Water is wet 

[chaklux]

This is true plus her simple girl next door personality with easily digestible/relatae lyrics are largely the reasons she is successful. Most of her fans see themselves in Taylor and believe they could be her. This worked way more in her favour unlike most pop girls that usually have larger than life personalities. She cannot sing and her song writing skills are genuinely overrated. Most of songs comes across like an adult stuck in high school kind of love. They lack that kind of maturity you will appreciate in Mariah, Celine, Whitney or even Adele's lyrics. 

[Popboi.]

2 hours ago, piotrert said:

Thanks for this revelation. Now we know why Gaga is a flop, because she is short. 

Sabrina and Ariana proceed to point and laugh at this in unison 

[Blade Runner]

And Beyoncé because she's hot/pretty. Rihanna because she's light skin. 

 

It's the entertainment industry. 

[Kimi]

well duh, everything she said is like...duh? not even yes... duh.

[CottageHore]

She's a great marketer and business woman. She's a great songwriter some days and other times not very good.

 

Other than that, she's just a palatable white (billionaire) woman who uses her privilege to benefit her. It's nothing worth trying to deny because truth is truth