base talk Why did Kim Petras and Kelly Clarkson take different career trajectories?

[Pikachoo]

Kim Petras went down the "I'm a sex maniac" route, touting her oral sex skills, how she wants to be treated like a dirty B1111111111111IITCCCCCCCCH.

 

meanwhile, Kelly released "I do not hook up" about how she falls in love before she falls in bed, and asking that the loose drunk girl get it together because she too much talent to be so classless

 

why such a divergence?

[secretgarden]

??????????????? 

[Smarticle]

One recognized that Dr. Luke wasn't a good person

[wehavetostan]

What?

[Scandalous]

Kelly is bad at oral sex and Kim is bad at chastity 

[NoOneDiesFromLove]

because this is a classy party and kim wasn't invited 
 

[DiamondHoe]

Well

[suburbannature]

One can sing and write and the other released Slüt Pop

 

Edited November 11 by suburbannature

[Gladiator]

One's the head honcho, the pe*** genius, the semen Jesus and the other is not. 

Edited November 11 by Gladiator

[YoungDreamer]

Kim Petras and Kelly Clarkson reflect two very different pop personas shaped by their backgrounds, audiences, and artistic goals, which lead to the divergence you're noticing.

 

Kim Petras has cultivated a bold, unapologetic image centered around sex-positive themes, partly influenced by her love of club music and LGBTQ+ nightlife culture, which often celebrates self-expression and freedom from societal expectations. Her image is provocative and playful, aiming to embody confidence and empowerment through embracing sexuality in a way that resonates with her target audience.

 

Kelly Clarkson, on the other hand, started her career through American Idol with a broad, mainstream fanbase that values relatability and strong, emotive vocals over provocation. Songs like "I Do Not Hook Up" reflect Kelly's desire to advocate for authenticity, strength, and healthy boundaries in relationships, which has been a recurring theme in her music. Her career has leaned into a narrative of resilience and grounded values, often steering away from themes she feels might alienate her broader fanbase.

 

Ultimately, these differences come down to how each artist aligns their personal values, their desired messages, and their fanbases. For Kim, that means exploring self-expression with high-energy, explicit pop, while Kelly remains closer to a message of emotional authenticity and empowerment through her experiences and challenges.

 

[Laura Palmer]

[Britney Spears]

Kim Petras and Kelly Clarkson took different career trajectories due to their unique backgrounds, musical styles, and goals. Kelly Clarkson, who won American Idol in 2002, quickly entered the mainstream pop-rock scene with a strong emphasis on vocal prowess and relatable lyrics, aligning with her identity as a pop-rock singer-songwriter. Her sound often leans into themes of resilience and empowerment, which helped her maintain a broad appeal across radio and pop audiences, and led her into roles as a TV host and mentor.

 

Kim Petras, on the other hand, pursued a more niche path within the pop and electronic music scene. Emerging in the 2010s with a distinctive synth-pop style, she leveraged her independent start and grassroots fan base to establish herself in hyper-pop and LGBTQ+ communities. Petras' sound and image focus heavily on futuristic, catchy, and edgy themes, allowing her to build a strong identity as an LGBTQ+ icon. This approach has kept her in a different sphere of the music industry, more focused on avant-garde, danceable pop.

 

These differences reflect both their artistic choices and how they've adapted to the evolution of the music industry: Clarkson stayed mainstream while branching into TV, whereas Petras embraced a more genre-specific, digitally-driven rise in pop.

[Helix]

I totally agree with whatever you said 

[Bubble Tea]

Weird thread. Kim recently talked about why she made Sl*t Pop and it's quite sad.

 

Basically she was sexually assaulted and combined with being transgender left sex feeling, to her, like something very complicated and unpleasant. She created Sl*t Pop as an escapist world where sex was really fun, enjoyable and exciting because it's not been her experience.

 

Don't judge a book by its cover.

 

 

[Doctor Dick]

[Bloodflowers.]

Katy Perry has yet to write a moral song for "Castle in the Sky" hitmaker like she did for "Don't Let Me Stop You" hitmaker 

 

 

[Broken]

[Rush]

[Glorified]

Kim Petras and Kelly Clarkson took different career paths due to a mix of unique artistic choices, timing, and the cultural landscapes they emerged from. Here's a breakdown:

1. Musical Origins and Breakthroughs: Kelly Clarkson launched her career by winning the first season of American Idol in 2002. This platform propelled her to mainstream success, and her sound was rooted in pop-rock, appealing to a broad audience. Kim Petras, meanwhile, started releasing music in the 2010s and found her niche within the electronic pop and hyperpop scenes, which were initially more underground. Her breakout came largely from a devoted internet fanbase, rather than mainstream media.

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3. Genre and Audience: Clarkson's sound has evolved, but she generally stayed within pop-rock and pop-country, genres with broad radio appeal. Petras, on the other hand, leaned heavily into hyperpop and electronic pop, genres that are more niche and internet-driven. This genre difference impacted their audiences: Clarkson's is more mainstream and varied in age, while Petras' fans tend to be younger and more aligned with online pop culture trends.

4. Cultural Context: Petras is also known for her identity as one of the first openly transgender pop stars. This has made her a symbol of LGBTQ+ representation in music, affecting both her fan base and the cultural lens through which she's viewed. Clarkson, who became famous earlier, has been less aligned with specific cultural movements and more associated with general pop culture.

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6. Career Strategies: Clarkson took advantage of TV opportunities like The Voice and her own talk show, which kept her in the public eye across various entertainment spheres. Petras, on the other hand, has largely focused on her music and has collaborated with artists like Sam Smith, staying more aligned with the pop music industry rather than branching into TV.

Their different approaches to genre, cultural influence, and media presence shaped their career trajectories, ultimately giving each artist a distinct position within the music industry.

[Vixen Eyes]

one is not like the other (and is from a very different generation)

[suburbannature]

It's true that some listeners feel Kim Petras's music leans heavily into pop tropes, which can give it a familiar, mainstream sound that may not stand out to everyone. While some fans enjoy her catchy, polished pop tracks, others find the music lacks the innovation or distinctiveness that could elevate her above other pop artists.

Her reliance on traditional pop production, combined with influences from '90s and early 2000s pop, can sound repetitive to listeners seeking something new or groundbreaking. Additionally, the input from Dr. Luke, who has produced a lot of mainstream pop, may contribute to a sound that some see as formulaic.

On the other hand, her core fans appreciate her ability to deliver well-crafted pop with memorable hooks, which is part of her appeal. Ultimately, it comes down to taste—some listeners are drawn to her specific pop style, while others may find it doesn't offer enough originality to make a lasting impact.

[LOTF]

1 hour ago, YoungDreamer said:

Kim Petras and Kelly Clarkson reflect two very different pop personas shaped by their backgrounds, audiences, and artistic goals, which lead to the divergence you're noticing.

 

Kim Petras has cultivated a bold, unapologetic image centered around sex-positive themes, partly influenced by her love of club music and LGBTQ+ nightlife culture, which often celebrates self-expression and freedom from societal expectations. Her image is provocative and playful, aiming to embody confidence and empowerment through embracing sexuality in a way that resonates with her target audience.

 

Kelly Clarkson, on the other hand, started her career through American Idol with a broad, mainstream fanbase that values relatability and strong, emotive vocals over provocation. Songs like "I Do Not Hook Up" reflect Kelly's desire to advocate for authenticity, strength, and healthy boundaries in relationships, which has been a recurring theme in her music. Her career has leaned into a narrative of resilience and grounded values, often steering away from themes she feels might alienate her broader fanbase.

 

Ultimately, these differences come down to how each artist aligns their personal values, their desired messages, and their fanbases. For Kim, that means exploring self-expression with high-energy, explicit pop, while Kelly remains closer to a message of emotional authenticity and empowerment through her experiences and challenges.

 

Why does this have 2 downvotes? 

[Minto]

this gif enrages me so much omfg

 

[DoubleRainbow!]

1 hour ago, Britney Spears said:

Kim Petras and Kelly Clarkson took different career trajectories due to their unique backgrounds, musical styles, and goals. Kelly Clarkson, who won American Idol in 2002, quickly entered the mainstream pop-rock scene with a strong emphasis on vocal prowess and relatable lyrics, aligning with her identity as a pop-rock singer-songwriter. Her sound often leans into themes of resilience and empowerment, which helped her maintain a broad appeal across radio and pop audiences, and led her into roles as a TV host and mentor.

 

Kim Petras, on the other hand, pursued a more niche path within the pop and electronic music scene. Emerging in the 2010s with a distinctive synth-pop style, she leveraged her independent start and grassroots fan base to establish herself in hyper-pop and LGBTQ+ communities. Petras' sound and image focus heavily on futuristic, catchy, and edgy themes, allowing her to build a strong identity as an LGBTQ+ icon. This approach has kept her in a different sphere of the music industry, more focused on avant-garde, danceable pop.

 

These differences reflect both their artistic choices and how they've adapted to the evolution of the music industry: Clarkson stayed mainstream while branching into TV, whereas Petras embraced a more genre-specific, digitally-driven rise in pop.

Thanks ChatGPT

[Dula Peep]

One makes music for poppers gays the other makes music for soccer moms