Heirloom Posted August 20 Posted August 20 2 hours ago, TheHanyo said: Chappell and I both went to the same sh*thole town and high school in Missouri. It's nothing but trailer parks, republicans, and meth heads. She desperately needs media training and a therapist if she wants her art to continue to make any impact. Growing up there ****** me up, too, but girl, I got help and found a way to survive and thrive in NYC without self-sabotaging. Comparing her sudden rise to fame globally to you "living" in NYC is so Did you even think about what you wrote ? Not comparable situation at all OT : She is right, but she needs to pick a side. If she truly wants to stay away from the fame, then she needs to go full Carly / Nelly route or stand her ground like Doja does 5 3
Pavement Princess Posted August 20 Posted August 20 She's obviously right within her feelings and we should be expected to treat people respectfully, but not very reasonable if that makes sense. Like it's not reasonable to expect superstars who sell millions of records and perform to massive adoring crowds to also get complete solitude and peace. And I also think it's somewhat within our nature to not fully comprehend or sympathize with someone whose success and riches will eclipse the side effects of fame. Like comparatively we don't see it as such a big deal when it comes with all of the benefits that she is now granted. Still love her! 1
Strawberry Bubble Posted August 20 Posted August 20 is this considered harassment when you are one of the biggest popstars of the year?
Into The Void Posted August 20 Posted August 20 Once you become famous, what you knew as normal no longer exists. It's just goes with being in the industry. All our faves are treated the same way in public. I grt it's not fun but maybe she's not cut out for it.
Redstreak Posted August 20 Posted August 20 Well I guess I can help by no longer listening to her album 1 2
1989 Posted August 20 Posted August 20 I mean, I see both sides here. The people doing the stalking or doxxing? Too much. They're the ones in every fan base always ruining things for everyone else by being f***ing weirdos. Those people absolutely should be called out (and even face legal repurcussions if need be). Six months ago, that wasn't something Chappell had to worry about, and I'm sure the switch to it now being something that is on her radar is more than most of us could handle. However, fans coming up and asking for a photo…girl. That's normal thing when you're a celebrity. It's completely fine for her to say no (and even encouraged if that is something that isn't good for her mental health), but that's very tame fan-to-celeb behavior; there's a huge difference in that and stalkers. The anger seems misplaced. Idk, I feel like that coupled with her saying she started doing music originally as a way to get into acting is all a bit off putting, ngl. I like her and her music, but perhaps she should reevaluate some things. 1
Starchild Posted August 20 Posted August 20 1 hour ago, lillavend3r said: And she needs to understand she's not a nobody anymore. How she wanted to live off of music but doesn't want the fame it doesn't work that way this is what I don't get, I liked her music ages ago but she has been chasing fame for 10+ years now, how would you not know what that entails? She's also on every talk show lately promoting herself as a person, so how would you think the people that find you an "inspiration" like you said you wanted to be in the first place are going to react to you? you're going to look down at them just because they say hi? that's insane (I'm not talking about the loser stalkers, just fan and fame wise, but people should also know she's bipolar and needs time) 7
chiliam Posted August 20 Posted August 20 oh no, i think we have another big pop star but seems like the girl has the talent, the right sound but doesnt cut for being famous. you need the whole package to become a big popstar. With this mindset, she will may go to the lowkey pop star route rather than the main massive girl who can handle fame. 1
Aristede Posted August 20 Posted August 20 She sounds so bitchy. Your fans are the reason you have a successful music career. They give you money and pay your bills. You should be grateful to them, not treat them like trash. If it weren't for your fans you'd probably be flipping burgers at McDonald's right now instead of what you're doing. I'm glad I'm not a fan of hers if she thinks they're all "creepy" and "stalkerish." 3 1
TheHanyo Posted August 20 Posted August 20 1 hour ago, Heirloom said: Comparing her sudden rise to fame globally to you "living" in NYC is so Did you even think about what you wrote ? Not comparable situation at all OT : She is right, but she needs to pick a side. If she truly wants to stay away from the fame, then she needs to go full Carly / Nelly route or stand her ground like Doja does I was comparing the traumas of where we came from, nothing more. You're not a nice person. 2
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted August 20 ATRL Moderator Posted August 20 I get how this might come off as abrasive to some since no other pop stars really say this stuff so bluntly, but she has a point. She's said how she needs to have an identity outside of this because, at the end of the day, it's just her job and she wants to have a life outside of it. She made a persona and performs/writes music as that persona. It's her "project". She's just setting her boundaries and saying she's not a fan of being treated like a zoo animal. It is weird to call someone mean because they didn't want to take a picture with you. If anyone was to go up to a person they don't know and ask to catch them on camera, they should have the right to say no.
Galah Posted August 20 Posted August 20 I think what she is feeling is valid, but also something she needs to come to terms with and accept in private. What is she hoping these videos will accomplish? The complete overhaul of celebrity culture where fans are obsessive in private yet mindful in public? It's just not realistic. Coupled with the fact that there are plenty of people who enjoy the limelight/"celebrity experience" and wouldn't wish to see it changed. Heck, fans ridicule celebrities if there aren't adoring fans following them around everywhere, waiting outside of hotels for an autograph from or even a glimpse of said celebrity. 1
brokee Posted August 20 Posted August 20 Some of these posts are funny. I'm glad she spoke about this she doesn't have to sit and just face everything like it's normal when it's not. she is right to express how she feels and what she faces daily with the new fame. Some people are crazy weird and have no limit but the thing is these people who are already doing the harassment won't stop cause who in their right mind thinks stalking and harassing is normal. I hope she has a good support system around her and better security.
Sannie Posted August 20 Posted August 20 Comparing herself to a stranger is really weird. Girl, you're famous and you have fans... You should understand parasocial relationships; you're not a stranger to these people. Fans are going to be weird and evasive and the truth is, you have to learn how to deal with it. It comes with the job. 4
k4rmabutterfly Posted August 20 Posted August 20 Doja ha impact I don't get it why some people are mad at her, she doesn't want to be that type of artist that have a parasocial relationship with their fans like Taylor or Harry and that's completely ok… there's literally nothing wrong with that. And her making sure fans get the message very soon at her career is the right move I think. It's giving Lana / Adele, just stream her music music and move on, it's not that deep.
AvadaKedavra Posted August 20 Posted August 20 25 minutes ago, chiliam said: oh no, i think we have another big pop star but seems like the girl has the talent, the right sound but doesnt cut for being famous. you need the whole package to become a big popstar. With this mindset, she will may go to the lowkey pop star route rather than the main massive girl who can handle fame. What if the title "The Rise and Fall" of a Midwest Princess is something premonitory
Starchild Posted August 20 Posted August 20 13 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: What if the title "The Rise and Fall" of a Midwest Princess is something premonitory that was when she was dropped from Atlantic like 4 years ago after getting signed, as in already happened
Lyrical. Posted August 20 Posted August 20 Except you're not a random. I don't see her making it much further in the industry at all with this nasty attitude. Every famous celeb gets asked for photos (obviously it's okay for her to complain about being doxxed or stalked, that shouldn't happen to anyone). Don't keep putting out music then, don't keep doing live performances then, etc. Just quit if you don't like it, because it's not going to get any better. She's coming off as very unlikeable, even her fans will be scared to interact with her after all this. 4 1 1
havewemet Posted August 20 Posted August 20 The loss of autonomy and freedom that comes with being famous has negatively affected almost every popstar. She's done her homework and she's seen it destroy people's lives. She's probably terrified and she has every right to be. Shocked people aren't being more empathetic. She doesn't owe you anything! She was content singing her songs for crowds of 100 people and I'm sure she would be again. It's about the music and that's how it should be. I promise your fave doesn't care about you either but is probably just better at pretending. 2
Park Jinyoung Posted August 20 Posted August 20 Not everyone is cut out to be a "celebrity". This is why the people who make the best capital letter celebrities are all narcissistic. They soak attention up. If this is how she feels it's better she puts this out there early. The earlier the fans get the rules of engagement the better. 1
Morissette Posted August 20 Posted August 20 I'm tired of this girl. Her music is nothing special for the amount of attention she gets. 1 1
Heirloom Posted August 20 Posted August 20 57 minutes ago, TheHanyo said: I was comparing the traumas of where we came from, nothing more. You're not a nice person. Calling me not a nice person when you're the one who is dismissing her struggle first. The trauma and how people handle will always be different, especially if they are facing different level of obstacle in their life. What you think mentally sustainable for you to live and work in NYC won't compare to the stress level of having your personal life and your loved one's life being invaded 24/7. 2
Velvet Night Posted August 20 Posted August 20 She has got to be in SUCH a rough situation because her fame has come so fast. For most celebrities, I think it happens more gradually so they can get used to it and also develop strategies to handle fame. But she's dealing with it all at once, while she's on tour. And given the stage she's at in her career, she probably doesn't have the means yet to just throw money at the problem either. Also there's a weird vibe from some of her fans where they seem very possessive of her, especially if they were fans before her recent surge in success. A lot of gatekeeping going on, people saying who should and shouldn't go to her shows.
Sugar-Rush Posted August 20 Posted August 20 I get where she's coming from, but it's clear that she isn't the type of person who can handle fame. Folks compare her to Gaga because of her outfits, but from what I've seen personality-wise, she's the exact opposite and clearly not comfortable being anywhere near the center of attention off-stage. 1
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