JustHoran Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She is NOT made for fame. Stalking is NEVER ok, but a fan asking for a photo, etc. is just how it is when you're famous. She is acting like she's Taylor Sift and Britney Spears level (who would still stop for fans when they were 10x bigger than she is currently). She can release music and back away from everything else if she doesn't like fame. I've NEVER understood people who hate fame who literally then just don't leave fame? There were so many artists who disappeared in the early 90s and 00s and some of them didn't care for fame either. She needs to rethink her career then. 5 2
PoisonPill Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 minute ago, TheHanyo said: She's the one lacking empathy. Huh? That makes no sense.
GardenPanty Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Think about ALL of the pop stars who have been so accommodating and loving to fans. Now look at HER. 7
americanlife Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She's right but a lot of the fans asking for pics or saying hi on the street truly mean well. There are stalkers and that's horrible. She has the right to say no to photos and not acknowledge fans in public. 2
TheHanyo Posted August 19 Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, PoisonPill said: Huh? That makes no sense. She's only thinking about her own feelings and doesn't give a **** about her fans' excitement. 1 1 1
Relampago. Posted August 19 Posted August 19 I feel bad for her, but yeah, this isn't going to help her situation and in a way she was probably better off not addressing it at all. It's just the reality of things. It's not right and it's not fair but it's not going to change in the way she wants. She should invest in a great therapist, security and PR team because that's the only thing that's going to alleviate this treatment even slightly. Sorry Chappell, welcome to showbiz. Wishing you love and luck. 1
Ethereaaal Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She just needs guidance and good mentors. I get that there are fans who really do too much, but it's just the way fame and being famous works. People will look up to you, fangirl over you, etc. She has so much to offer, hope this doesn't stop her from doing great things in pop and hope she finds ways to cope.
Femininomenon Posted August 19 Posted August 19 16 minutes ago, Mocha said: she's taking way too long to release a follow up to good luck, babe. she really is over it I'm pretty sure that's because she wasn't expecting her album to blow up after GLB, so there's no need to follow up with new music just yet 1
Gwendolyn Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) I wouldn't be shocked if she goes the Nelly Furtado/Fiona Apple route. She doesn't like fame at all and I think this will get worse with the amount of exposure she will get in the next few weeks. I wish her the best and she reaches out to her popstar elders for advice. Edited August 19 by Gwendolyn 2
Kimi Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Bussea said: normal people don't act the way that stans act sometimes and im sick of the whole "well you're a celeb!!!111 this is what you signed up for !111" argument because why is their responsibility to accept this behavior and why do you think you're ENTITLED to do it? you really think you ate that it's just a silly wishful thinking, and that's real entitlement. „normal people" exist next to insane ******* and when you achieve mainstream fame you get both sides. it's literally part of the job since the very beginning and is never gonna change. never. 2
TheHanyo Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Chappell and I both went to the same sh*thole town and high school in Missouri. It's nothing but trailer parks, republicans, and meth heads. She desperately needs media training and a therapist if she wants her art to continue to make any impact. Growing up there ****** me up, too, but girl, I got help and found a way to survive and thrive in NYC without self-sabotaging. 5 1 1 1
TheHanyo Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Femininomenon said: I'm pretty sure that's because she wasn't expecting her album to blow up after GLB, so there's no need to follow up with new music just yet There's nothing on her website past October. She's not preselling any tours, she's not capitalizing on this moment AT ALL, and now we know why. Edited August 19 by TheHanyo 3
Peak Now Posted August 19 Posted August 19 24 minutes ago, knewbetterpt2 said: Taylor wishes she had that to her credit. Gaga is the one who laid the ground work and connected the bridge from the fan to artist interactions and relationships. (And look how that ended up for her) Rabid fans have been a thing for ages??? People were going ballistic over Franz Liszt in the 1840s OT: I get where she's coming from but idk I feel like her conflating stalkers with fans asking for photos is indicative of at least a lack of media training... yes drawing boundaries is good, laudable even but if that line is "please pretend to not know me when you see me in the street", which let's be honest is normal fan behaviour, she really should consider reducing her public appearances instead... 3 1
TMRA Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Its understandable if you hate being famous, I really get it. Some fans can be really deranged. Normal people get stalkers too so imagine how its like when you are famous. But unfortinatley, thats the price you pay. I hope in time she will pick up a few tricks from other famous singers like Bey, Rih, Gaga etc on how to keep your privacy and peace in life. But calling out people for asking for a picture or a hug is not a good look. If you dont want to be famous, its time to change your career path before your mental health goes to hell. Being a celebrity comes with a price 4
Popular Post State of Grace. Posted August 19 Popular Post Posted August 19 (edited) My god, some of you are truly a bunch of weird ass people. Chappell's rise to fame was so fast and very reminiscent of Gaga's, except parasocial relationships are even worse now with social media bigger than it was in 2008-2010. She was basically a nobody like 8? 9? months ago and now she's one of the biggest pop stars on earth, having the biggest crowd ever at Lollapalooza, fans constantly stalking/harassing her family, etc. She obviously was not prepared for any of this ****. Why would she be okay with that when she just wanted to make music for her fans? Gaga ended up resenting herself way too early in her career because she started feeling like a zoo animal. She then completely abandoned interacting with her fanbase unless she has something to sell. And it was partially her "fault" (not sure if it's the right word to describe it but you get the memo) because she never really set these kind of boundaries for herself. The ***** was inviting them backstage to smoke and have a kiki and becoming besties with them until she completely went psycho. I'm sorry, I get where some of you are coming from, but the "you're a celeb! act like it! you signed up for this!! maybe you're not cut out for this" argument is extremely ****** up considering like 99% of your faves and big pop girls in general have spoken up about being miserable and mentally unwell because of what fame has done to them. I'm glad she's constantly speaking up about those weirdos and setting her boundaries. She's very smart and well spoken. She has clearly seen what these things did to her faves and she's not letting it happen to her. I do hope that she has a strong support system around her and good security because no one is ever ready for this kind of sudden rise to fame. I'm ready for her to pull a Bjork next time some weirdo tries it honestly. Edited August 19 by State of Grace. 10 13 3
Dash_inthedark Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Windy Day said: stuff like this truly makes me respect artists like billie even more because even though she had to deal with a way bigger fame than chappell from a very young age and was always vocal about the stalking and harassment she's going through, she never blamed it on people who genuinely loved her and never made her fans feel like weirdos for being excited to see her. same thing goes for gaga This! Both of them always appreciated their fans so much and is something that makes me love them too. Till this day they are always thankful for all the love and excitement people show them. Ofc there has to be boundaries (and both of them have been distancing more as the fame got bigger because of the weirdos ofc let's not be naive there has to be limits) and any artist achieving this level of fame needs a good security with them when out in public since creeps can be anywhere but also is so endearing when artists and fans connect and exchange love and experiences. Hope Chappell will be able to appreciate this side of fame too soon (im thinking with security and a little more time to navigate this she will be) Edited August 20 by Dash_inthedark 5
Vermillion Posted August 19 Posted August 19 8 minutes ago, TheHanyo said: Chappell and I both went to the same sh*thole town and high school in Missouri. It's nothing but trailer parks, republicans, and meth heads. She desperately needs media training and a therapist if she wants her art to continue to make any impact. Growing up there ****** me up, too, but girl, I got help and found a way to survive and thrive in NYC without self-sabotaging. 7 minutes ago, TheHanyo said: There's nothing on her website past October. She's not preselling any tours, she's not capitalizing on this moment AT ALL, and now we know why. Thank you for sharing this. She seems to be in this weird midspot where she has the fame but without any of the protection for it, if what was alleged here earlier is accurate. Unless that's her choice or she can't afford it.
Jenni Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She is completely right in what she said in the video, but there's nothing she can do or say that will make people stop this behavior, so I think if this is something that really bothers her and she can't handle this, she should either try to have a career like bjork/fiona apple, who only appears in the public to release new albums once or twice a decade, or quit music. There's no other way. 1
ONOPKA Posted August 19 Posted August 19 i think it's very hard to put yourself in her shoes given the incredible rise to fame that she's had. it would be hard for anyone to deal with equally, setting boundaries with your fans can be done fairly respectfully and swiftly... i.e. : in these videos she just comes across equally as rude as some of her fans tbh 3 1
Bussea Posted August 19 Posted August 19 27 minutes ago, Kimi said: you really think you ate that Oh, I know I did!
Eóghan Posted August 20 Posted August 20 I hope she pulls a Bjork on the next fan that doesn't respect her bounderies And also I hope she pulls a Bjork on all the people commenting in this thread sayin that she's wrong for actin like this 🙏 This is her life, clearly she doesn't give 2 fucks about success or losing fans if it means having a good mental health. Good for her 👏 stand your ground gurl and smack the ***** who dares come touch u without your permission. Especially the bottoms in here, I'd get a good kick out of it. 1
Gov Hooka Posted August 20 Posted August 20 1 hour ago, applestar said: She should just stay as a straight yt woman drag race fan and leave music alone Plain Jane is that you?
frankvert Posted August 20 Posted August 20 (edited) It's sad to see that this is her response to a once in a lifetime opportunity so many people would kill for. I really wish she equips herself with the proper support system and security so she feels comfortable moving forward because this will be her new normal for at least another album cycle. But mostly I hope she can change her perspective because it's HER ride and she deserves to enjoy it. Especially as her music is resonating so strongly with the public. This situation makes me realize how crazy it was to see people like Gaga and Rihanna facing their meteoric rises to fame with confidence and even with a daring manner, in the era of relentless paparazzi & burgeoning social media. Their attitude towards fame had so much poise and demeanor that it almost weaponized their fame and made them stronger. Obviously I have no idea what it was really like behind the scenes, but they're both living the high life now so it obviously worked out for them. Edited August 20 by frankvert 5
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