Stunnah Posted August 24 Posted August 24 There's a spirit flight from LAX to Kansas City in about half an hour. Might be time to pack it up, sis.
ImpressMeMuch Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Now that I know she is bipolar II I have a lot more empathy for her original TikTok and how it was messaged, but I do think this is a much better worded statement. It's still rather naive and will unfortunately fall further victim to Streisand Effect, but it's a clear and honest statement of where she is at.
XtinaStripped Posted August 24 Posted August 24 She is right and like people have said this is worded MUCH better. Unfortunately, I think she's going to realize no matter how much she voices this, she's not going to be able to turn it off. She chose a career path that is very public. People are interested in her. She has to learn to cope or just stop. Even if she stops at this point, the genie is out of the bottle now. There's no going back. I hope she finds her peace with it somehow. It's just unfortunately the trade off of super-stardom.. however long it may last.
Edu Posted August 24 Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Mtjjproducer said: I'm not a fan of hers like a song or two so I can be unbiased but she is absolutely right. I think the fact people feel they allowed to invade someone's privacy because they like their art is creepy. Any other profession besides a celebrity this would be stalking. I felt the same when Doja (who could've phrased it better but wasn't wrong) said the same about fans leaking her hotel destination in Brazil and expecting her to come outside to meet them when they stalked her to find where she was at the situation you described between doja and her fans took place in paraguay actually next time please make sure to fact check first https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2022-03-25/doja-cat-i-quit-fighting-with-fans-paraguay-concert
AFullMoonlight Posted August 24 Posted August 24 (edited) Of course Atlers would be in here acting like she's wrong or taking the "what does she expect approach". Y'all are apart of the problem too. It's a lot of deranged Stans out here who think they are entitled to celebs just because they like their music or the way they act in movies. Shes right and hopefully more celebrities start revolting against Stan's because it's getting weird. People should just be able to make music and go home. Chappell is right. There's no if ands or buts about it. Edited August 24 by AFullMoonlight 3
DevilsRollTheDice Posted August 24 Posted August 24 I think this is a better statement and I totally understand where she's coming from. I also think that there is a difference between what being a celebrity *should* be and what being a celebrity is. I think it's easy for everyone to agree that being a celebrity shouldn't include entitlement to someone's personal space/life. However, unfortunately(!), that is not what celebrity *is*. She can set boundaries but I think it's unlikely rabid fans or young people chasing clout will heed them. American culture is so obsessed with the idea of celebrity itself that you don't even need to be a fan of someone to approach them in public and ask for a picture if they're famous. All to say, I think that she should seriously consider what she wants out of all this because posting herself on social media, playing festivals, booking interviews, etc will lead to much more of the behavior she seems to hate. I hope she prioritizes her mental health. Fame destroys many people and she's already dealing with BPD. 1
Soup in Teapot Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Fan/stan culture is so weird and creepy. I love Gaga but I won't touch her or make her uncomfortable.
Soup in Teapot Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Fan/stan culture is so weird and creepy. I love Gaga but I won't touch her or make her uncomfortable.
Soup in Teapot Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Fan/stan culture is so weird and creepy. I love Gaga but I won't touch her or make her uncomfortable. 1
Soup in Teapot Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Fan/stan culture is so weird and creepy. I love Gaga but I won't touch her or make her uncomfortable.
Thesedays Posted August 24 Posted August 24 1 hour ago, kyliefever2002 said: https://www.instagram.com/p/C_CGxsrP4Bc/?igsh=MW9kdmp4Nm54bnZ6MA== Disgusting she's using sex-abuse metaphors to justify her not wanting to deal with the downsides of celebrity culture she directly benefits from. Also, ironic that she is railing against celebrity culture when celebrity culture is the only reason why she's being coddled while making these insane and frankly offensive ramblings 7
Thesedays Posted August 24 Posted August 24 7 minutes ago, DevilsRollTheDice said: I think this is a better statement and I totally understand where she's coming from. I also think that there is a difference between what being a celebrity *should* be and what being a celebrity is. I think it's easy for everyone to agree that being a celebrity shouldn't include entitlement to someone's personal space/life. However, unfortunately(!), that is not what celebrity *is*. She can set boundaries but I think it's unlikely rabid fans or young people chasing clout will heed them. American culture is so obsessed with the idea of celebrity itself that you don't even need to be a fan of someone to approach them in public and ask for a picture if they're famous. All to say, I think that she should seriously consider what she wants out of all this because posting herself on social media, playing festivals, booking interviews, etc will lead to much more of the behavior she seems to hate. I hope she prioritizes her mental health. Fame destroys many people and she's already dealing with BPD. I agree but, at the same time, the things celebrities LIKE about celebrity culture is the other side of the same coin of what they hate. Like, people screaming and spending a fortune on merch and buying expensive as **** concert tickets are not reasonable things. You can't have people doing these unreasonable things without also dealing with annoying fans wanting a picture. Plus, fame is a choice at the end of the day. 2
Into The Void Posted August 24 Posted August 24 (edited) I don't know if she can last long if the level of Fame is too much. I get her point about harassment and not wanting to feel that way but unfortunately superfans are weirdos and haters can be worse. I guess we will see Edited August 24 by Into The Void
Thesedays Posted August 24 Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Trent W said: In a meet and greeting or somewhere were the artist knows what's gonna happen yes But if you are walking in the street and you are approached all the time for that **** is definitely triggering You can start feeling trapped and get anxiety This girl is bipolar It's insane to see these takes as if she's not making a CHOICE over being famous lmao Like, yes, if she's a bipolar and not equipped to handle people approaching her maybe she should chose another way to do her music? 1 1
aesthetic bih Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Poor girl, all she want is to release music and perform. Fame really is a double edged sword. There are some normal respectful fans, but 90% of them are batshit insane who doesn't have regards on the concept of "boundaries" If she wants the attention she have right now to die down, she might have to go on a hiatus for at least a year. During that time frame, she can work on her sophomore. And then release it when she's mentally and emotionally ready to.
Luckitty Posted August 24 Posted August 24 her biggest instagram fanpage doxxed & stalked her entire family of course she would hate them 1 1
HealerKirby Posted August 24 Posted August 24 She just said out loud what every other female pop star wanted to say, but never dared to Hoping this will lead to a positive change among the young generation in how they form relationships with celebrities.
ChooseyLover Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Fan culture really needs to change in some aspects. I also would never want to touch my favourite artists, damn maybe I wouldn't even want to talk to them or introduce myself to them at all. That doesn't make sense in my brain.
Thesedays Posted August 24 Posted August 24 25 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said: Poor girl, all she want is to release music and perform. Mmmmm, if all she want is to realease music and perform, does she need a huge VMA performance? a big TikTok account? show up at Olivia Rodrigo in front of 20k teen girls? kind of seems to me like she wants fame. 2
Letemtalk Posted August 24 Posted August 24 She has a point. Just because you streamed an album 20 times, and maybe even purchased a vinyl or two, it doesn't mean you own their time. Sometimes musicians are under a lot of pressure and can't deal with that sort of attention all the time. Edit: and that's not even mentioning the part about people stalking her family. But ATRL seems to want bland Disney girls that can't write, who sing off-key in their own chorus, but they are conventionally pretty with media training so they never say anything to upset anyone. 1
Trent W Posted August 24 Posted August 24 35 minutes ago, Thesedays said: It's insane to see these takes as if she's not making a CHOICE over being famous lmao Like, yes, if she's a bipolar and not equipped to handle people approaching her maybe she should chose another way to do her music? If you are not an artist you won't understand the internal urge or expression and being listened The problem is that she became mainstream and not by her choice. She just became too popular and she didn't sign up for that Most real artists just want a small audience with a niche fanbase No one wants parasocial stans talking about you all day Im sorry but maybe stan culture needs to drastically change or just die It should be illegal to attack people online for chart success
Thesedays Posted August 24 Posted August 24 9 minutes ago, Trent W said: The problem is that she became mainstream and not by her choice. It is absolutely by her choice, what the ****. Who is forcing her to be booked at mainstream festivals and award shows and have a huge presence on social media?
Sugar-Rush Posted August 24 Posted August 24 1 hour ago, AFullMoonlight said: Of course Atlers would be in here acting like she's wrong or taking the "what does she expect approach". Y'all are apart of the problem too. *a part I certainly hope that she invests in bodyguards so that an incident like the one she experienced never happens again.
CottageHore Posted August 24 Posted August 24 This is going to set a really great precedent for putting an end to this kind of predatory behavior with famous people. We need celebrities to remind us they're human so that we get snapped out of these parasocial delusions. Pop stars are performers. It's their artwork and their job. That's it. We're not their friends. I'm glad she doubled down and "this isn't a group conversation" sent me. PRINCESS OF POP, BUTTRESS OF BOUNDARIES!!!
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