Thesedays Posted July 21 Posted July 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, needs said: It's honestly irresponsible that she won't do it. 52 minutes ago, Richie.Valdez said: Taylor Swift better use her status to endorse Kamala Harris real quick. Swifties of age better come come through on Election Day. Things that the US liberal accepts: celebs being silent on genocide. Politicians aiding genocide and literally sending billions to level a region full of civilians to the ground. Things the US liberal finds unacceptable: celebs not endorsing a Dem politician. The funniest thing is that, at the end of the day, Taylor Switt will obviously endorse Kamala. And then everyone will laud a billionaire woman who has said **** about genocide or any important social cause as the big progressive voice and democracy saver. Oh to be rich in the USA... you can be a multi-millionaire, you can be ostentatiously selfish, you can be silent and indifferent to the biggest human crimes in history... all you need to do is endorse a center-right candidate that will still defend your class interest and half of the braindead population will act as if you just did a great service to democracy and humankind and you're a wonderful person (while the other, even more stupid side will literally think you're a communist). Edited July 21 by Thesedays
needs Posted July 21 Posted July 21 12 minutes ago, Thesedays said: Things that the US liberal accepts: celebs being silent on genocide. Politicians aiding genocide and literally sending billions to level a region full of civilians to the ground. Things the US liberal finds unacceptable: celebs not endorsing a Dem politician. The funniest thing is that, at the end of the day, Taylor Switt will obviously endorse Kamala. And then everyone will laud a billionaire woman who has said **** about genocide or any important social cause as the big progressive voice and democracy saver. Oh to be rich in the USA... you can be a multi-millionaire, you can be ostentatiously selfish, you can be silent and indifferent to the biggest human crimes in history... all you need to do is endorse a center-right candidate that will still defend your class interest and half of the braindead population will act as if you just did a great service to democracy and humankind and you're a wonderful person. Nobody said it's a great service or that she'd be wonderful doing it LMAO. Just that it's the right thing to do all things considered.
Meev Posted July 21 Posted July 21 (edited) I wouldn't want Taylor endorsing anyone unless they announce that they will not support Israel. Unless Kamala will announce that she will stop providing funding for Israel, I will not support Taylor endorsing her. As for 2016, Hilary is obviously not going to win. She honestly doesn't have the charisma and influence to lead a country, especially after the Bill scandals. I did not have sexual relations with that woman is still a meme to this day. Edited July 21 by Meev 1
piotrert Posted July 21 Posted July 21 funny how ariana's endorsement is so irrelevant that this thread is mostly about taylor 2
Richie.Valdez Posted July 21 Posted July 21 20 minutes ago, Meev said: I wouldn't want Taylor endorsing anyone unless they announce that they will not support Israel. Unless Kamala will announce that she will stop providing funding for Israel, I will not support Taylor endorsing her. As for 2016, Hilary is obviously not going to win. She honestly doesn't have the charisma and influence to lead a country, especially after the Bill scandals. I did not have sexual relations with that woman is still a meme to this day. Are you actually dumb? Trump must be defeated. And if Kamala is the only choice against him then she must be endorsed regardless of anything else. 3
Thesedays Posted July 21 Posted July 21 35 minutes ago, needs said: Nobody said it's a great service or that she'd be wonderful doing it LMAO. Just that it's the right thing to do all things considered. Yes. Except 99% of US celebrities aren't doing "the right thing to do all things considered" so it weirds that endorsing a presidential candidate seems to be the parameter for so many.
Meev Posted July 21 Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, Richie.Valdez said: Are you actually dumb? Trump must be defeated. And if Kamala is the only choice against him then she must be endorsed regardless of anything else. You are a hypocrite if you think endorsing someone supporting genocidal policies is ok just because she is a lesser evil. Endorsement means you support their policies and values, and as Biden as shown, democrats values in supporting Israel is completely evil. In WWII, when Nazi were performing genocide on Jews and invaded multiple European countries, the US government rightfully intervened. Now the Democrat government is actively supporting Israel, and democrats voters are still wanting to paint the Democrat party as the 'good guys'. Trump is the worst presidential candidate, but the Democrats literally supported genocide, which even the extremely racist Republican Party has not actually done, even if they will probably do it if give a chance. Voting for Kamala and Democrats is fine, but saying you support them is not. There is not enough voices among democrats to denounce the genocide supported by the party, and frankly highly hypocritical given how they paint themselves as being on the right side of history. 4
Odette Violet Posted July 21 Posted July 21 you go ari. anything against the greater evil not to win the election. 1
Thesedays Posted July 21 Posted July 21 7 minutes ago, Meev said: You are a hypocrite if you think endorsing someone supporting genocidal policies is ok just because she is a lesser evil. Endorsement means you support their policies and values, and as Biden as shown, democrats values in supporting Israel is completely evil. In WWII, when Nazi were performing genocide on Jews and invaded multiple European countries, the US government rightfully intervened. Now the Democrat government is actively supporting Israel, and democrats voters are still wanting to paint the Democrat party as the 'good guys'. Trump is the worst presidential candidate, but the Democrats literally supported genocide, which even the extremely racist Republican Party has not actually done, even if they will probably do it if give a chance. Voting for Kamala and Democrats is fine, but saying you support them is not. There is not enough voices among democrats to denounce the genocide supported by the party, and frankly highly hypocritical given how they paint themselves as being on the right side of history. I agree. But Taylor has never said a peep about Palestine ever, so why would you assume she cares? She seems like your standard white feminist who doesn't care about much besides what directly affects her and, IN A VERY VAGUE AND SHALLOW WAY, some social rights like gay rights, etc. So yes, seems like a standard rich Biden/Kamala supporter.
Onyxmage Posted July 21 Posted July 21 She should sing the National Anthem (aka Touch It) at the DNC.
needs Posted July 21 Posted July 21 11 minutes ago, Thesedays said: Yes. Except 99% of US celebrities aren't doing "the right thing to do all things considered" so it weirds that endorsing a presidential candidate seems to be the parameter for so many. True. I just think it's different with Taylor because nobody has the reach and influence that she does.
Meev Posted July 21 Posted July 21 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thesedays said: I agree. But Taylor has never said a peep about Palestine ever, so why would you assume she cares? She seems like your standard white feminist who doesn't care about much besides what directly affects her and, IN A VERY VAGUE AND SHALLOW WAY, some social rights like gay rights, etc. So yes, seems like a standard rich Biden/Kamala supporter. The Biden team has been wanting Taylor endorsement since last year, and frankly what do you want Taylor to say, that the Democrat Party is completely evil and people should vote for the republicans because of the genocide that is happening and supported by Joe Biden? I don't doubt Taylor has communicated with the White House as she has connections with people like AOC who are influential figures in the party. Just because she has not said anything on twitter doesn't mean she hasn't said anything. Edited July 21 by Meev
Thesedays Posted July 21 Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, Meev said: The Biden team has been wanting Taylor endorsement since last year, and frankly what do you want Taylor to say, that the Democrat Party is completely evil and people should vote for the republicans because of the genocide that is happening and supported by Joe Biden? I don't doubt Taylor has communicated with the White House as she has connections with people like AOC who are influential figures in the party. Just because she has not said anything on twitter doesn't mean she hasn't said anything. Lol please Taylor's influence is solely due to the fact that she is a popular figure. If she isn't saying it publicly, then it means ****. 1
Thesedays Posted July 21 Posted July 21 (edited) 11 minutes ago, needs said: True. I just think it's different with Taylor because nobody has the reach and influence that she does. Yes. Which is why it'd be an indictment of her as a person if she chooses to use that to support a center-right dumbass politician instead of saying something regarding genocide, abortion rights, etc. Edited July 21 by Thesedays
Meev Posted July 21 Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Thesedays said: Lol please Taylor's influence is solely due to the fact that she is a popular figure. If she isn't saying it publicly, then it means ****. You are so adamant that Taylor's voice is so influential, and yet denying that she has actual political influence when she has connections with political figures? Ticketmaster literally had to answer to the White House because of the drama with the Eras tour ticketing. That is in direct relation to Taylor and several political figures stepped out to talk about the issue. Taylor has actual political connections, unlike the likes of Ariana and Demi.
needs Posted July 21 Posted July 21 7 minutes ago, Thesedays said: Yes. Which is why it'd be an indictment of her as a person if she chooses to use that to support a center-right dumbass politician instead of saying something regarding genocide, abortion rights, etc. Thats myopic
Squall Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Not the thread turning into a Taylor thread, then they say Swifties are annoying 1
Janet Posted July 21 Posted July 21 3 hours ago, Billionaire said: I hope more celebrities follow suit. That widespread Biden endorsement in Hollywood helped a lot with his campaign, but I also know that the political climate has changed a **** ton since then and big name brands & celebs are more likely to stay silent on these topics now. Still I hope they try Didn't help Hillary
BrokenMachine Posted July 21 Posted July 21 The way these celebrities are quick into endorsing this gen0.cidal supporter but it takes them AGES to tell politicians to stop funding gen0.cides
If U Seek Amy Posted July 21 Posted July 21 Go to the Israel/palestine thread if you wanna debate that 💀 OT: It is funny these celebs were silent, Biden out, and they're coming out and speaking up now 😂 1
Thesedays Posted July 21 Posted July 21 43 minutes ago, Meev said: You are so adamant that Taylor's voice is so influential, and yet denying that she has actual political influence when she has connections with political figures? She has no actual connection with political figures. That's you being deluded.
Thesedays Posted July 21 Posted July 21 42 minutes ago, needs said: Thats myopic Tell us how exactly this is "myopic". Would love to know.
Thesedays Posted July 21 Posted July 21 12 minutes ago, If U Seek Amy said: Go to the Israel/palestine thread if you wanna debate that 💀 OT: It is funny these celebs were silent, Biden out, and they're coming out and speaking up now 😂 Darling, please engage your brain and understand the genocide right now is directly related to the US president. Being ignorant about the genocide going on is already bad but being stupid on top of that?
More Than A Melody Posted July 21 Posted July 21 35 minutes ago, Squall said: Not the thread turning into a Taylor thread, then they say Swifties are annoying Both uber haters and uber fans are annoying. OT: I honestly don't know how to feel in terms of endorsing her. On one hand I understand that she should be endorsed with an asterisk, but at the end of the day, 99% of celebrities don't really care about Palestine. If they do or say something it's likely gonna be because they feel it'll go down well with their fanbase, and to be honest, I'm so over celeb culture that as long as they don't support genocide I have stopped caring what they believe. Are they incredibly self-centered and don't really care because it doesn't affect them? Good enough. That's better than supporting Israel. That person is alright. It's not if these people supported Palestine something would change anyway. So it's just optics and I'm over it. I'm so over celeb culture in general. So I say, endorse Kamala, because the alternative is fascism and I don't think we can afford to argue about the minutia right now.
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