dinorhino Posted July 17 Posted July 17 7 minutes ago, lillavend3r said: Why are you acting like we weren't colonized by Spain who slaughtered native/colored men and raped native women As much as Argentina deserves its lashings for being incredibly racist there's not much truth behind Argentina "killing" its black population. Not that many enslaved Africans were imported to Argentina and most either a) mixed with the local population b) moved to Uruguay (which has a noticeably bigger black population at like 5% compared to barely 0.5% of Argentina) c) died in wars. There was no genocide of Afro-Argentines Argentina received tremendous European immigration from Germany (lol), Spain, Italy, and many other European countries so it heavily "whitened" the population after colonisation. Indigenous maternal haplogroups in Argentina are still very prominent (like some 40%?), showcasing the mating patterns of European men (immigrant or conquistador) having children with indigenous women and the descendants getting gradually more white due to marrying white men I believe if anything Argentina had genocides against its indigenous people, though I don't think they had as many to begin with compared to other countries 2 2
Flanders Posted July 17 Posted July 17 On 7/17/2024 at 12:54 AM, Summerboy95 said: That's why we have people from all over the region come study for free and have free healthcare, and most people choose Argentina because it's possible to have a better life (even considering the big economic problems we have). Every country has their fair share of racism. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones... -- OT: This is related to the typical case of the first world attacking third-world countries and latinos being considered "inferior". While it's not right and I agree that Argentine players should be held accountable for their statements, let's not forget that this is an underlying issue that gets overlooked by football matches and competition. Girl, all this whataboutism and deflecting The players are RACIST how can anyone defend that? What are your thoughts on the actual matters at hand here? 1 8
Mandalay Posted July 18 Posted July 18 This is outright undefendable The fact that the players are joyfully singing the song knowing all the lyrics AND in 2024? Really?
Cloudy Posted July 18 Posted July 18 On 7/17/2024 at 12:27 AM, Bimbo said: Argentinians don't be racist challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) Uhh don't say that or they will get really mad lol
Monsieurgedeon Posted July 18 Posted July 18 12 hours ago, dinorhino said: As much as Argentina deserves its lashings for being incredibly racist there's not much truth behind Argentina "killing" its black population. Not that many enslaved Africans were imported to Argentina and most either a) mixed with the local population b) moved to Uruguay (which has a noticeably bigger black population at like 5% compared to barely 0.5% of Argentina) c) died in wars. There was no genocide of Afro-Argentines Argentina received tremendous European immigration from Germany (lol), Spain, Italy, and many other European countries so it heavily "whitened" the population after colonisation. Indigenous maternal haplogroups in Argentina are still very prominent (like some 40%?), showcasing the mating patterns of European men (immigrant or conquistador) having children with indigenous women and the descendants getting gradually more white due to marrying white men I believe if anything Argentina had genocides against its indigenous people, though I don't think they had as many to begin with compared to other countries And indigenous people are not black ?
dinorhino Posted July 18 Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Monsieurgedeon said: And indigenous people are not black ? And I never said they were. I was simply mentioning populations they did genocide. And it wasn't Afro-Argentines
Vanpy Posted July 19 Posted July 19 On 7/16/2024 at 6:31 PM, YoungDreamer said: It's so scary how Argentinians normalize racism and transphobia, bunch of dumb ppl Not all of them. The Porteños are the big problem. They're racist even with their own people (who are from other parts of the country).
Ahiru77 Posted July 19 Posted July 19 Starting from the Copa America final, Lionel Messi is out of football for 40 days. So he's not present in the game to fix any of this like he did with Brazil in 2021, with PSG in 2023 and with China this year. Let's see if Argentina can manage to not start WW3 with France until Messi gets back.
BeenThereDoneThat Posted July 19 Posted July 19 This is why I was praying for those racist scum to lose. I would never step foot in Argentina. 1
slik Posted July 19 Posted July 19 (edited) Is Argentina gay friendly for tourists bc this makes seem like they would be unwelcoming and hostile Edited July 19 by slik
Pikachoo Posted July 19 Posted July 19 On 7/16/2024 at 8:51 PM, ShadeIena said: Yeah that's why Argentina abolished slaves in 1853 and everybody could have mixed kids, couples or whatever since 1813 while in the USA people had to go to different bathrooms until the mid 50's and France,the country who is the target of this racist chant, abolished slavery in 1846 and allowed interracial marriages in 1806. so what now? 2 1
Pikachoo Posted July 19 Posted July 19 oh wow i did not realize Argentina elected a far right president who took a picture of him with a chainsaw to show what he'd do to "woke" culture 1 1 1 1
ShadeIena Posted July 20 Posted July 20 2 hours ago, slik said: Is Argentina gay friendly for tourists bc this makes seem like they would be unwelcoming and hostile Buenos Aires is classified as the safest and more diverse city in latin America for LGBTQ+'s 1
Superbitch Posted July 20 Posted July 20 2 hours ago, ShadeIena said: Buenos Aires is classified as the safest and more diverse city in latin America for LGBTQ+'s Phhhh well at least they're not home of phobic. Just racist I guess.
manuelalex9810 Posted July 20 Posted July 20 (edited) I'm not surprised by how normalized racism is in Argentina in the comments, Mexicans and Brazilians have been telling you how racist and xenophobic Argentinians are and how normalized they have it, like racism runs in their blood (nazi-land), they deserve the s**thole they're going through. That's why "America Latina menos Argentina" will always be relevant Edited July 20 by manuelalex9810 1
dinorhino Posted July 20 Posted July 20 12 minutes ago, manuelalex9810 said: they deserve the s**thole they're going through. 2
Sahn Posted July 20 Posted July 20 (edited) Football chants are despicable. And that's the purpose, to be as offensive and politically incorrect as they can. Getting mad at it would be like wanting to cancel South Park for being racist and offensive, lol. Edited July 21 by Sahn 1 1
Sahn Posted July 20 Posted July 20 10 hours ago, Pikachoo said: and France,the country who is the target of this racist chant, abolished slavery in 1846 and allowed interracial marriages in 1806. so what now? France still exploits resources of more than a dozen African nations printing colonial money to this day. Let's not. 3
Sahn Posted July 20 Posted July 20 5 hours ago, manuelalex9810 said: I'm not surprised by how normalized racism is in Argentina in the comments, Mexicans and Brazilians have been telling you how racist and xenophobic Argentinians are and how normalized they have it, like racism runs in their blood (nazi-land), they deserve the s**thole they're going through. That's why "America Latina menos Argentina" will always be relevant We still live for your food, El Chavo, Thalia, Luis Miguel and Frida Kahlo.
MattieB Posted July 20 Posted July 20 The way racist white people automatically go to vile hate is very funny to me. Like imagine being that sick and twisted. So called "superior race" according to these racists but forever bothered and pressed by the mere thought of a black person
bliaz Posted July 20 Posted July 20 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sahn said: We still live for your food, El Chavo, Thalia, Luis Miguel and Frida Kahlo. No todos los argentinos son racistas, lo sabemos. En México hemos abrazado a muchas figuras argentinas a lo largo de los años y siempre habrá cariño mutuo. Es una lástima que la parte racista y escandalosa de su país (quiero pensar que son menos que la mayoría) contamine la percepción que tienen muchos en el exterior sobre toda una nación. Edited July 20 by bliaz
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