Summerboy95 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 1 minute ago, BOOMBAYAH said: Mbappe is right here though lol. He was purely talking about football, where European countries have more stacked and competitive teams than South America. Currently, South America only really has Argentina as a top team that can compete with the likes of Spain, Germany, Croatia, England, etc., especially since Brazil has been underperforming. Even if you believe Mbappe's comments were in bad taste, responding to football criticism with racism and transphobia is unacceptable. I'm sorry you cannot see that Mbappe's comment is related to Europe being superior to Latin America. That comment is not related to football, it has a deeper meaning. You can't say that Argentina is racist and xenophobe because they "believe they are european" but then having alzheimer when discussing Europe's tendency to believe Latin Americans are inferior. 1 15
Loca Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) Argentina is one of the most racist countries worldwide and needs some corrective laws and education ASAP. Edited July 16 by Loca 14 1
Popular Post Minto Posted July 16 Popular Post Posted July 16 aren't half the country unemployed priorities argentina 3 19 1
Nicholai Posted July 16 Posted July 16 Not the CIA propaganda against Argentina reaching ATRL too...leave us alone! 2 8
commander Posted July 16 Posted July 16 10 minutes ago, Summerboy95 said: That's why we have people from all over the region come study for free and have free healthcare, and most people choose Argentina because it's possible to have a better life (even considering the big economic problems we have). Every country has their fair share of racism. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones... -- OT: This is related to the typical case of the first world attacking third-world countries and latinos being considered "inferior". While it's not right and I agree that Argentine players should be held accountable for their statements, let's not forget that this is an underlying issue that gets overlooked by football matches and competition. This false equivalence is flat out disgusting 2
tkimari Posted July 16 Posted July 16 they really are the ***** of south america,glad the rest of the world is finally catching up
Talento Posted July 16 Author Posted July 16 3 minutes ago, Nicholai said: Not the CIA propaganda against Argentina reaching ATRL too...leave us alone! What. Were the players forced to engage in racism while recording themselves? 2 3
Popular Post Talento Posted July 16 Author Popular Post Posted July 16 Some members here are angrier at people condemning racism than at the players being racist... Interesting! 3 12
Summerboy95 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 1 minute ago, Minto said: aren't half the country unemployed priorities argentina hahahahan't 1 minute ago, commander said: This false equivalence is flat out disgusting It is not. I'm SO sorry that you feel threatened about discussing other forms of systematic discrimination aside from the one generated towards afro-descendants Also, should we consider in this conversation the difference "afroamericans" do between them and afrolatinxs? Because that happens, A LOT. ATRL is not ready for this conversation. It's better to stick to Woman's world underperforming or sth like that. 1 12
BOOMBAYAH Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Summerboy95 said: I'm sorry you cannot see that Mbappe's comment is related to Europe being superior to Latin America. That comment is not related to football, it has a deeper meaning. You can't say that Argentina is racist and xenophobe because they "believe they are european" but then having alzheimer when discussing Europe's tendency to believe Latin Americans are inferior. What? His statement is literally about football? Only 2 out of FIFA's top 10 best men's international football teams are South American (Argentina and Brazil), with the rest being European. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps there was a superiority complex in his tone (which again is pushing it). However, Argentina is the loser in this situation no matter how you look at it because literally nothing Mbappe said justifies Argentine players or fans responding with racism or transphobia. Also, I never said what you claimed in your second sentence, so I don't know why you responded to me with that. Edited July 16 by BOOMBAYAH 12 1
Digitalism Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 42 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Ok but what singing this? Even in 2022 they won so why the obsession with France? Mbappe brought this to himself He attacked football is south america in Brazil. That's why a lot of people hate him here "In South America, football is not as advanced as in Europe, that's why when you look at the last World Cups it's always Europeans who win." And then he lost the world cup to Argentina If a pop girl did this they would be dragged forever. His comments were already problematic Edited July 16 by Digitalism 24
Summerboy95 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 2 minutes ago, BOOMBAYAH said: What? His statement is literally about football? Only 2 out of FIFA's top 10 best men's international football teams are South American (Argentina and Brazil), with the rest being European. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps there was a superiority complex in his tone (which again is pushing it). However, Argentina is the loser in this situation no matter how you look at it because literally nothing Mbappe justifies Argentine players or fans responding with racism or transphobia. Also, I never said what you claimed in your second sentence, so I don't know why you responded to me with that. Well it is not. I'm sorry you're not catching the reference, but it's not that difficult. It's about Europe vs. Latin America / First World Countries vs. Third World Countries / Civilization vs. Barbarism And again, I condemn these players and that disgusting song.
Talento Posted July 16 Author Posted July 16 4 minutes ago, Digitalism said: Mbappe brought this to himself He attacked football is south america in Brazil. That's why a lot of people hate him here "In South America, football is not as advanced as in Europe, that's why when you look at the last World Cups it's always Europeans who win." And then he lost the world cup to Argentina Mbappé is not hated in Brazil Most of the comments in the video you posted are Brazilians agreeing & praising him. 1 1
BOOMBAYAH Posted July 16 Posted July 16 2 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said: Why would he use Comic Sans for an apology?? This situation not only exposed his racism and transphobia but also his outright stupidity. This idiot has seven Black-French teammates whom he will be returning to train with in a few weeks. All of them have unfollowed him, and one has publicly denounced him in a tweet that currently has 161K likes:
Digitalism Posted July 16 Posted July 16 6 minutes ago, BOOMBAYAH said: What? His statement is literally about football? Only 2 out of FIFA's top 10 best men's international football teams are South American (Argentina and Brazil), with the rest being European. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say perhaps there was a superiority complex in his tone (which again is pushing it). However, Argentina is the loser in this situation no matter how you look at it because literally nothing Mbappe said justifies Argentine players or fans responding with racism or transphobia. Also, I never said what you claimed in your second sentence, so I don't know why you responded to me with that. So we're going to let him attack third world teams and players without taking into account the economic previledge he has by playing in rich countries. Let's bring racism into the conversation but also let's talk about how priviledged he was because of where he was born and how out of touch with reality his comments were. I guess a lot of you are going to like that part uh 1
Digitalism Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Talento said: Mbappé is not hated in Brazil Most of the comments in the video you posted are Brazilians agreeing & praising him. If we go by comments in youtube which is super dumb look at the comments in the enzo video. All people are saying they are african and they agree that they hate their players cannot play for their own teams. We know that's not a representation of reality. Edited July 16 by Digitalism 1
lillavend3r Posted July 16 Posted July 16 36 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: The racism they harbor, especially towards Peruvians and Bolivians due to their indigenous heritage, is awful. There are native people here too can you google something before saying shite just to say it? The northern part of the country that is close to those countries share similarities in physical complexion AND hundreds of bolivians and peruvians choose to LIVE HERE. This BS of "everyone is blonde" is just not true so check that before speaking to speak
Gui Blackout Posted July 16 Posted July 16 17 minutes ago, Summerboy95 said: Regarding Brazil, our universities are FULL of Brazilians who have to come and study (FOR FREE and ON SCHOLARSHIPS) because they cannot access university education in their own country. Then they can freely leave with their degree in hand to practice their profession in THEIR COUNTRY, and no one complains about it. I recommend talking to them and seeing how grateful they are to have a neighboring country like Argentina. The only Brazilians that go study in Argentina are underachievers who didn't get good enough grades to get into Brazilian universities, so they go to the Argentinians cause it's easy and cheap to get in and when they come back they have to take a bunch of tests and adaptation courses. It's not highly regarded at all. 10 1
Popular Post Aramis Posted July 16 Popular Post Posted July 16 Tons of nazies escaped to Argentina after WW II so make the correlation. 12 4 1
bliaz Posted July 16 Posted July 16 All Latinos know that Argentines are the racists of Latin America 4
YoungDreamer Posted July 16 Posted July 16 10 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said: The only Brazilians that go study in Argentina are underachievers who didn't get good enough grades to get into Brazilian universities, so they go to the Argentinians cause it's easy and cheap to get in and when they come back they have to take a bunch of tests and adaptation courses. It's not highly regarded at all. Say it louder sis
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted July 16 ATRL Moderator Posted July 16 30 minutes ago, Summerboy95 said: It is not. I'm SO sorry that you feel threatened about discussing other forms of systematic discrimination aside from the one generated towards afro-descendants Also, should we consider in this conversation the difference "afroamericans" do between them and afrolatinxs? Because that happens, A LOT. Mbappé is not American, so why mention them? 1
Recommended Posts