celeb news Former F1 driver Ralf Schumacher is gay. Shows hot young boyfriend

[JoeAg]

two hotties 

[Genius1111]

Ralf is a nice daddy and his boyfriend Etienne is also cute. Having said that, I am surprised that he's about the same age as Ralf's son.

 

Anyway, Lando Norris next  some day! 

[StayFrosty]

Someone needs to explain to me how gay men can get it up with women and have kids.

[nadiamendell]

7 minutes ago, StayFrosty said:

Someone needs to explain to me how gay men can get it up with women and have kids.

Have you never heard of bisexuality? 

[dinorhino]

There's something that's never set well with me for closeted gay men who run through straight women, marry them and have kids with them, and then leaving them for coming out the closet and being applauded for their "bravery" for lying to their partner they made a commitment to. Idk how women in these positions are not livid as hell

I'm not sure how gay men can date people like this either because that's a huge ass red flag to date someone who used their partner as a beard for so long 

 

4 minutes ago, nadiamendell said:

Have you never heard of bisexuality? 

Schumacher specifically came out as gay and the post specifically said gay men. Queer men =/= gay men

Edited July 15 by dinorhino

[naval23]

Lewis Hamilton about to be dethroned as Shawn's fav racecar driver 

[apasionata]

2 minutes ago, dinorhino said:

There's something that's never set well with me for closeted gay men who run through straight women, marry them and have kids with them, and then leaving them for coming out the closet and being applauded for their "bravery" for lying to their partner they made a commitment to. Idk how women in these positions are not livid as hell

I'm not sure how gay men can date people like this either because that's a huge ass red flag to date someone who used their partner as a beard for so long 

 

Schumacher specifically came out as gay and the post specifically said gay men. Queer men =/= gay men

Absolutely agreed  Like good for him if he's happy but just another bombastic side eye celebrity behaviour in my book

[nadiamendell]

2 minutes ago, dinorhino said:

There's something that's never set well with me for closeted gay men who run through straight women, marry them and have kids with them, and then leaving them for coming out the closet and being applauded for their "bravery" for lying to their partner they made a commitment to. Idk how women in these positions are not livid as hell

I'm not sure how gay men can date people like this either because that's a huge ass red flag to date someone who used their partner as a beard for so long 

 

Schumacher specifically came out as gay and the post specifically said gay men. Queer men =/= gay men

Sexuality is complicated and fluid. Just because he's gay doesn't mean he doesn't also have some attraction to women. What he labels himself is his choice. 

[dinorhino]

18 minutes ago, nadiamendell said:

Sexuality is complicated and fluid. Just because he's gay doesn't mean he doesn't also have some attraction to women. What he labels himself is his choice. 

I just wish that complex process didn't involve this apparent ceremony that requires women to be used and for the men who lied and manipulated them for years to be celebrated as heroes for their tomfoolery 

 

 

19 minutes ago, apasionata said:

Absolutely agreed  Like good for him if he's happy but just another bombastic side eye celebrity behaviour in my book

It really perplexes me how this opinion doesn't seem widely held whenever gay people come out from long-ass marriages (with kids). Rewarding someone with praise for lying and manipulating their supposed loved one is really icky to me 

Edited July 15 by dinorhino

[Quiqui4eva]

19 minutes ago, dinorhino said:

I just wish that complex process didn't involve this apparent ceremony that requires women to be used and for the men who lied and manipulated them for years to be celebrated as heroes for their tomfoolery 

 

 

It really perplexes me how this opinion doesn't seem widely held whenever gay people come out from long-ass marriages (with kids). Rewarding someone with praise for lying and manipulating their supposed loved one is really icky to me 

Sure, but how do we know he didn't come to a realization during his marriage? 

[nadiamendell]

20 minutes ago, dinorhino said:

I just wish that complex process didn't involve this apparent ceremony that requires women to be used and for the men who lied and manipulated them for years to be celebrated as heroes for their tomfoolery 

 

 

It really perplexes me how this opinion doesn't seem widely held whenever gay people come out from long-ass marriages (with kids). Rewarding someone with praise for lying and manipulating their supposed loved one is really icky to me 

It is icky but society can be partially blamed for putting that pressure and expectation on them. It's easy for younger gays to not understand why the older ones didn't come out until later in life. It was a VERY different world for the community in the 90s/early 2000s. 

[BOOMBAYAH]

4 minutes ago, nadiamendell said:

It was a VERY different world for the community in the 90s/early 2000s. 

This is what I'm thinking. I think him doing that today would be very hard to defend, but back in the 90s/2000s, it was literally hell to live as an out gay man. 

[dinorhino]

1 minute ago, Quiqui4eva said:

Sure, but how do we know he didn't come to a realization during his marriage? 

Just now, nadiamendell said:

It is icky but society can be partially blamed for putting that pressure and expectation on them. It's easy for younger gays to not understand why the older ones didn't come out until later in life. It was a VERY different world for the community in the 90s/early 2000s. 

Maybe it's just me having high standards but I expect men nearing 30 (which is around the age he first got married to his ex wife) to have the self awareness and realise their sexuality to at least varying extents. I also don't really think it's an issue of the times either/age thing; I have uncles and aunties who are older than him who are gay who didn't have to get into heterosexual relationships to realise they were gay. They've been gay since before I was born with boyfriends and girlfriends in one of the most homophobic regions in the US. 

 

Everyone's different but almost like clockwork I see these sorts of men have such little regard for the damage they do because of their lack of self awareness and they see themselves as the victim and not the person they actually hurt, and society now by and large affirms that sort of quasi-narcissism by applauding gay men who abuse women by using them as tools for their own self discovery and throwing them away like old toys once they got what they wanted. I get societal pressures and whatever but at best it needs to be met with a neutral reaction rather than praise and applauses. 

 

Mentally I'm throwing tomatoes on the ex-wife's behalf because I can't imagine how pissed off she must be being used like that and having the person who abused her be applauded for what he did. 

[Jotham]

The way he is always complaining about Guenther is giving O_H on this website so I'm not surprised in the slightest.

[Quiqui4eva]

1 hour ago, dinorhino said:

Maybe it's just me having high standards but I expect men nearing 30 (which is around the age he first got married to his ex wife) to have the self awareness and realise their sexuality to at least varying extents. I also don't really think it's an issue of the times either/age thing; I have uncles and aunties who are older than him who are gay who didn't have to get into heterosexual relationships to realise they were gay. They've been gay since before I was born with boyfriends and girlfriends in one of the most homophobic regions in the US. 

 

Everyone's different but almost like clockwork I see these sorts of men have such little regard for the damage they do because of their lack of self awareness and they see themselves as the victim and not the person they actually hurt, and society now by and large affirms that sort of quasi-narcissism by applauding gay men who abuse women by using them as tools for their own self discovery and throwing them away like old toys once they got what they wanted. I get societal pressures and whatever but at best it needs to be met with a neutral reaction rather than praise and applauses. 

 

Mentally I'm throwing tomatoes on the ex-wife's behalf because I can't imagine how pissed off she must be being used like that and having the person who abused her be applauded for what he did. 

I totally get your standards, but you're being awfully presumptuous about this situation (unless the ex publicly spoke out somewhere). If he found a man within a year of the divorce, you might have a point about him being a user. But I'm not willing to pass judgement re: finding someone approximately seven years later. For all we know, he could've truly figured himself out after the fact, and the divorce was related to other issues. Couples fall out of love all the time, but as unfortunate as that is, that doesn't make one or both parties a bad person or an "abuser." 

 

Otherwise, I agree with you on how shitty it is when someone is aware of sexual incompatibility and chooses to hide or lie to their spouse.

[ICLDXU4HS]

7 hours ago, Konril said:

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Congrats to the Schumacher family! One's a fruit and the other a vegetable.

I hate the internet sometimes. 

I—

 

[Virgos Groove]

Okay, ONE gay person knows how to drive.

[Gui Blackout]

3 hours ago, dinorhino said:

There's something that's never set well with me for closeted gay men who run through straight women, marry them and have kids with them, and then leaving them for coming out the closet and being applauded for their "bravery" for lying to their partner they made a commitment to. Idk how women in these positions are not livid as hell

I'm not sure how gay men can date people like this either because that's a huge ass red flag to date someone who used their partner as a beard for so long 

 

Schumacher specifically came out as gay and the post specifically said gay men. Queer men =/= gay men

He simply posted a photo with his boyfriend/partner, he didn't specify he was strictly gay. So he's queer.

[Chris]

How big is the age gap?

[vale9001]

4 hours ago, dinorhino said:

There's something that's never set well with me for closeted gay men who run through straight women, marry them and have kids with them, and then leaving them for coming out the closet and being applauded for their "bravery" for lying to their partner they made a commitment to. Idk how women in these positions are not livid as hell

I'm not sure how gay men can date people like this either because that's a huge ass red flag to date someone who used their partner as a beard for so long 

 

Schumacher specifically came out as gay and the post specifically said gay men. Queer men =/= gay men

 

1) he was a sportsmen so pression to not coming out. A very complicated situation. Also you don't know if for some time he convinced himself to be another thing

 

2) you don't know the kind of relantionship he had with his wife in the years. Some couples especially after years are just friends and not really in love in a passional physical way.

The wife is an ex wife. Can understand you can feel betrayed or something if you discover something like that while the relationship is still a thing but after 10 years it's very different. I don't think a woman feels betrayed someone gives her a child. Like "oh you were gay- bisexual you betrayed me and now we have this child". Love ended anyways so it's not very different imo from the kinda of feeling you have for an ex in general. 

 

3) some women love to have a partners are attracted also to men. I mean adults can be free to do whatever they want

 

4) so don't judge other people lives?

Edited July 15 by vale9001

[Mr.X]

4 hours ago, nadiamendell said:

Sexuality is complicated and fluid. Just because he's gay doesn't mean he doesn't also have some attraction to women. What he labels himself is his choice. 

This. Also, the fact that people are asking 'how can he get it up with women'... like, do you know what arousal is? Or even sex? People get aroused for all sorts of reasons. You can get aroused and have sex with a woman and have pleasure, and still be gay..

 

the narrowness of thought around sex and relationships is baffling but this is the type of heteronormativity we live with, that spills over to queer culture so much, it is sad.

 

You once got out of the closet, now it is time to get out of your tiny boxes, people...

[Hikki]

I ran to LPSG as soon as I heard the news, sadly no tea yet 

[UnusualBoy]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

How big is the age gap?

Probably over 15 years. He's 49yo and his toyboy seems to be in his late 20s, early 30s

 

Either way he's cute and congrats to him to finally come out to live his life as he wants to.

[dinorhino]

3 hours ago, Quiqui4eva said:

I totally get your standards, but you're being awfully presumptuous about this situation (unless the ex publicly spoke out somewhere). If he found a man within a year of the divorce, you might have a point about him being a user. But I'm not willing to pass judgement re: finding someone approximately seven years later. For all we know, he could've truly figured himself out after the fact, and the divorce was related to other issues. Couples fall out of love all the time, but as unfortunate as that is, that doesn't make one or both parties a bad person or an "abuser." 

 

Otherwise, I agree with you on how shitty it is when someone is aware of sexual incompatibility and chooses to hide or lie to their spouse.

I wasn't trying to accuse him of cheating. It's more so splitting with them largely if not solely in part because you're gay or homoromantic (or something where your sexuality made it impossible to maintain the relationship). I say this because so many news articles are reporting him as gay. If he's bi then I get your point, but I do think it's abuse to use women as a platform to discover your sexuality and then paint yourself (or indulge in the narrative) as this battered animal after you're done with them.

 

I understand homophobia makes people comply with compulsory heteronormativity but there still needs to be responsibility here or at least acknowledgement of wrongdoing and in so many of these cases the men are very unapologetic and see nothing wrong with using women as beards and then throwing them away like toys once their overgrown selves develop decent amounts of self awareness

2 hours ago, Gui Blackout said:

He simply posted a photo with his boyfriend/partner, he didn't specify he was strictly gay. So he's queer.

 I am curious then why so many articles are reporting him as gay rather than just queer or "LGBT" of some sort. Gay is a very pointed label

 

2 hours ago, vale9001 said:

 

1) he was a sportsmen so pression to not coming out. A very complicated situation. Also you don't know if for some time he convinced himself to be another thing

 

2) you don't know the kind of relantionship he had with his wife in the years. Some couples especially after years are just friends and not really in love in a passional physical way.

The wife is an ex wife. Can understand you can feel betrayed or something if you discover something like that while the relationship is still a thing but after 10 years it's very different. I don't think a woman feels betrayed someone gives her a child. Like "oh you were gay- bisexual you betrayed me and now we have this child". Love ended anyways so it's not very different imo from the kinda of feeling you have for an ex in general. 

 

3) some women love to have a partners are attracted also to men. I mean adults can be free to do whatever they want

 

4) so don't judge other people lives?

1. I'm aware of homophobia in sports, I'm not blaming him for not coming out sooner but I am blaming him for (supposedly) getting into a marriage and using a woman as a beard whether or not that was his intention. Even if you know you're gay in a homophobic sport that's still no excuse to manipulate a woman and use her as a cover

2. I don't know how she feels, but I am speaking on this situation as a collective rather than specifically individually since it is a pattern of closeted men coming out and no regard to the long-term marriage(s) they've been through where they very clearly were using women. Women are already seen as devices for straight men's exploration and maturation and gay men also participate in that by doing this and ultimately contributing to misogyny.

3. Technically true but I doubt it

4. It's a public story and I'm allowed to have an opinion

[FlyOnTheWall]

Congrats legend  Was just talking with my boyfriend yesterday about the lack of openly gay sportsmen during the Euro finale and like 10 minutes later this news came out. More of this please!