KatyPrismSpirit Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, Communion said: But you seemingly don't grasp the hypocrisy in honoring women's empowerment and motherhood by collaborating with a man accused of sexual violence against women? If Katy doesn't believe Kesha, she should likely ask herself - How would she feel if such a thing happened 15 years from now to Daisy Dove and no one believed her? Is Kesha not just someone else's daughter at the end of the day? Is Pebe not just a mother like Katy is? She's on IG live talking about the beauty of women's capacity to give birth and how the core chakra is orange and located in the groin yet again all this nu-age power of the ***** feminism is done in proud and open collaboration with an alleged male sex offender? She's wrong for collabing with Dr Luke and its a mistake on her behalf to willingly choose to work with him. Yes it is hypocritical to make a woman's empowerment song with an alleged rapist and abuser. I'm not denying that. However, she probably wouldn't have worked with him if she herself didn't feel comfortable with working with him. He's behind some of her biggest hits. Maybe she thinks she owes him for it? Her career was struggling back in the mid 00s after being dropped by several labels. Him and Max believed in her producing her biggest hits to date right after. I don't think it's an excuse, but it's likely her reasoning. And at the end of the day, how twisted it might be perceived, this industry is about making money. Her and her label want to make a profit. No wonder she would go back to the man she made hundreds of millions of dollars with producing music. Again not a valid excuse since Max would've sealed the job on his own.
Phaunzie Posted July 11 Posted July 11 18 minutes ago, Communion said: But you seemingly don't grasp the hypocrisy in honoring women's empowerment and motherhood by collaborating with a man accused of sexual violence against women? If Katy doesn't believe Kesha, she should likely ask herself - How would she feel if such a thing happened 15 years from now to Daisy Dove and no one believed her? Is Kesha not just someone else's daughter at the end of the day? Is Pebe not just a mother like Katy is? She's on IG live talking about the beauty of women's capacity to give birth and how the core chakra is orange and located in the groin yet again all this nu-age power of the ***** feminism is done in proud and open collaboration with an alleged male sex offender? Are you okay? 6
Saint James Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Distantconstellation said: But if I said something about your sexuality or made fun of your looks yall would be taking out the knives. yall take this pic too seriously. we all know katy looks incredibly hot, that's one thing that can be agreed upon.
knewbetterpt2 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Stunnah said: Was Ethel Cain responsible for her actions when she signed with Dr Luke's publishing agency (six years after the lawsuit became public)? this what aboutism coming from the Katy Kats is so tired. Ethel isn't at Katy's capacity in the music industry just like Doja wasn't when she worked with Luke. Some of these girls don't have many choices at a chance at success, Katy is well into her career and should know better than to go crawling back to a rapist for "hits" that won't even touch billboard. Hope that helps! 3 1
Communion Posted July 11 Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Phaunzie said: Are you okay? On 2/22/2024 at 6:48 AM, Phaunzie said: Yes. If Katy dares to pull that Stand With Israel nonsense, I would ditch ha, then drag ha and then only listen to her music through unprofitable means. I have some unfortunate news for you. 8
Phaunzie Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 minute ago, Communion said: I have some unfortunate news for you. Well, she has moved to supporting Palestine, like earlier this year. I am just asking if you are okay because you seem more sporadic and angrier than usual. 2 1
Mirkomonster Posted July 11 Posted July 11 8 hours ago, Communion said: Are you actually in earnest asking why people have not demanded an answer for why Nicki Minaj - someone married to a sex offender - is accepting songs from a different sex offender? nicki minaj, kim petras or doja cat were and are lashing for working with him and these 3 aren't big pop star icon like Katy, which is doing a woman empowerment anthem made by him. 1
Stunnah Posted July 11 Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, knewbetterpt2 said: this what aboutism coming from the Katy Kats is so tired. Ethel isn't at Katy's capacity in the music industry just like Doja wasn't when she worked with Luke. Some of these girls don't have many choices at a chance at success, Katy is well into her career and should know better than to go crawling back to a rapist for "hits" that won't even touch billboard. Hope that helps! Hmm! Let's see. Ethel decides to start doing business with Dr Luke in 2020, when he and Kesha were embroiled in what was then a six-year lawsuit. There is no end in sight, and he hasn't had his re-emergence with Say So. Katy starts working with Luke in 2023, after he and Kesha settle the lawsuit. Yes, that's different, for sure. So working with an 'alleged rapist' is fine if you "don't have many choices at a chance at success". My God, the goalposts. How they shift! 3 4
Communion Posted July 11 Posted July 11 7 minutes ago, Phaunzie said: Well, she has moved to supporting Palestine Not sure such has happened. Have you come to this conclusion to cope with her standing with the letter supporting Biden's actions in Gaza? This is not a gotcha. I'm purposefully using something that reaaonsbly makes you (and I) upset to highlight the absurdity in that you've chosen not to actually engage in actual substantive discussion but to be a troll in a way that sees you effectively mocking the idea of being upset over male sexual violence. Do you feel odd that your behavior to defending Katy platforming a rapist comes off no differently than those excusing a genocide by thinking tone is an argument oral defense? 2
knewbetterpt2 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 6 minutes ago, Stunnah said: Hmm! Let's see. Ethel decides to start doing business with Dr Luke in 2020, when he and Kesha were embroiled in what was then a six-year lawsuit. There is no end in sight, and he hasn't had his re-emergence with Say So. Katy starts working with Luke in 2023, after he and Kesha settle the lawsuit. Yes, that's different, for sure. So working with an 'alleged rapist' is fine if you "don't have many choices at a chance at success". My God, the goalposts. How they shift! just loud and wrong
Stunnah Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, knewbetterpt2 said: just loud and wrong You should have a column in a national newspaper. 1
Phaunzie Posted July 11 Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Communion said: Not sure such has happened. Have you come to this conclusion to cope with her standing with the letter supporting Biden's actions in Gaza? This is not a gotcha. I'm purposefully using something that reaaonsbly makes you (and I) upset to highlight the absurdity in that you've chosen not to actually engage in actual substantive discussion but to be a troll in a way that sees you effectively mocking the idea of being upset over male sexual violence. Do you feel odd that your behavior to defending Katy platforming a rapist comes off no differently than those excusing a genocide by thinking tone is an argument oral defense? What gotcha? Okay, believe what you want to believe. Have fun or don't, I don't care. Honestly can't wait for the new single to drop. I bet Miss Abby will be there to listen to. Thanks for the streams in advance.
corotinho Posted July 11 Posted July 11 And katycats told me no one would care for the Dr. Luke collab hahah If this song turns out into a flop... katycats should logoff from social media, cause it will be a hard time. Everyone will call her out and with a reason 4
knewbetterpt2 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 12 minutes ago, Stunnah said: You should have a column in a national newspaper. You should look into doing anything but defending a rapist and his returning client, come read with me!!!!
corotinho Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) As i said before, Katy always had her image super attached to Dr. Luke. That's the reason why she was one of the main topics when Kesha made public her situation with him and that's the reason why everyone in the industry is calling her out for collab with him again now. Those excuses of why no one called Nicki Minaj ( as if someone thinks she could do any better) won't happen. Edited July 11 by corotinho 2
Rigalo Posted July 11 Posted July 11 9 hours ago, Lagerfeld said: I mean, she's not wrong. But also, Luke has been making music now since 2017, with multiple big artists. Why hasn't anyone said anything before? This is so tired and idk how yall keep reaching for this exact paragraph when EVERY time Luke produces something there are draggings all over ATRL (the internet at large). Why do people say Nicki Minaj loves to work with rapists? Why are the two Kim Petras stans and the Kesha stans always at odds? Like you clearly just don't keep up with artists he works with if you think they aren't also getting dragged 4 5
Bhabylon Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Mind you, Katy stans are grown ass men in their 30s acting this way over some stupid Kidz Bop songs 1 13
Jay07 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 9 minutes ago, Bhabylon said: Mind you, Katy stans are grown ass men in their 30s acting this way over some stupid Kidz Bop songs The funniest part is they're doing all this for a song that will peak at 64 and disappear the next week. 1 6
Bussea Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, CroNich said: You can condemn her zionists views without completely discrediting her here when the topic has nothing to do with Zionism. Your argument has no validity I'm sorry. literally. two things can be true at once. abigail can be a zionist and at the same time be correct at dragging katy's CHOICE. they probably don't even give af about her being a zionist and only used it as gotcha because they keep trying to defend katy and this mid ass song for whatever reason just accept the L Edited July 11 by BussC,XOXO 5
Headlock Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: She's wrong for collabing with Dr Luke and its a mistake on her behalf to willingly choose to work with him. Yes it is hypocritical to make a woman's empowerment song with an alleged rapist and abuser. I'm not denying that. However, she probably wouldn't have worked with him if she herself didn't feel comfortable with working with him. He's behind some of her biggest hits. Maybe she thinks she owes him for it? Her career was struggling back in the mid 00s after being dropped by several labels. Him and Max believed in her producing her biggest hits to date right after. I don't think it's an excuse, but it's likely her reasoning. And at the end of the day, how twisted it might be perceived, this industry is about making money. Her and her label want to make a profit. No wonder she would go back to the man she made hundreds of millions of dollars with producing music. Again not a valid excuse since Max would've sealed the job on his own. All of this, and yet you are continuing to go to bat for Katy over her working with Dr Luke, including liking comments like this: 10 hours ago, GAGAxMONSTER said: So random. Did she hear 'sexy, confident,' realized she's neither and decided to come for Katy? These are just empty words. Edit: not you removing your like, pathetic Edited July 11 by Headlock 4
Sugar-Rush Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Made a good point in such a concise and professional manner. 1
BrentB Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 10 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: shes a hypocrite, she says she doesnt support abuse but says she stands with Israel. Make sense Edited July 11 by BrentB
Distantconstellation Posted July 11 Posted July 11 13 hours ago, Bewitched said: Because she is THE biggest artist associated with Dr. Luke other than Kesha Like when you think of Katy and Kesha you think of Dr. Luke The others have been scolded for working with him as well. I wanna see you in every thread scolding those other artists then. I'll be making sure to take notes if u aren't doing that. Keep the same energy 7
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