tiagol88 Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) Its really clear at this point shes doing everything she can for those algorithms to work overtime and to extort her fanbase. The entire Taylors version project was supposed to be one thing: a woman getting control of her music back and ended as the most capitalistic thing she could possibly do. Meanwhile her new music feels stuck since the pandemic. Every time she has a new album out it's obvious it's just to capitalize on her peak during this tour. This was never about her as an artist in anyway. It was always about her wallet. She will always put that above innovation, growth as an artist or doing anything she feels like she wants to say but could see her losing part of her cult following. Releasing versions of an album for 6 hours only might be the biggest insult an "artist" could ever pull. Her trying to block any female artist from hitting that #1 for no reason no matter what market (imagine releasing exclusive editions for the UK only lmao) Shes starting to look like MCUs phase 4 of the music industry and ill leave it at this. Edited June 16 by tiagol88 7
Rihannito Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, SylMacPer said: I get your point, but I don't entirely agree! TTPD is not her strongest album and upon announcement I was not sure about an entire record written over her past relationship! But tbh when she released these songs I knew that there's loads of exaggeration and her approach is dramatic because she's dramatic as a person! She was like that since the beginning, way before her massive success! Her refusing to grow up became her brand and I actually like it (and obviously many others too!). Folklore and Evermore were the proof of evolution when she needed it! And that's 3-4 years ago! Let her play and be ambitious for now! She will bounce back! Yeah but isn't an artist supposed to keep evolving and top their past effort? At least artistically. Commercially might depend on the GP and their reception. Now more than ever, that her work is looked on with a magnifying glass should really push her to blow out the expectations everytime. For this to happen, she must take breaks, reflect what she has done, things that she needs to improve but instead she is giving us half assed albums just for the sake of money. All of our faves are money seekers but she is on a completely other level and it keeps getting worse. Thank you for your willing to listen to critics and give back constructive answers instead of…numbers and spotify. Edited June 16 by Rihannito 3
blaggot Posted June 16 Posted June 16 glad publications are finally starting to tell it like it is when it comes to that lady
fromily Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Arrows said: Ringo Starr: "I love Taylor Swift, that's just how I am. I love her." Bruce Springsteen: "She's a tremendous writer." Carole King: "Over the years, I have known some great songwriters and I have also known some great singers and performers. It's rare to see all those talents in one person. Taylor Swift." Dolly Parton: "I think she's spectacular, [a] great writer, and I love how she presents herself. She's always been such a pro, and I've admired her all these years." Billy Joel: "She's like that generation's Beatles" Britney Spears: "The most iconic pop woman of our generation" Shania Twain: "I'm a big supporter of Taylor. I think she's just incredibly brilliant." Jon Bon Jovi: "Taylor Swift is going to be here for as long as she chooses to be." Patti Smith: "She's trying to do something good." Stevie Nicks: "Taylor is writing for the universal woman and for the man who wants to know her. The female rock-'n'-roll-country-pop songwriter is back, and her name is Taylor Swift. And it's women like her who are going to save the music business." Billy Corgan (The Smashing Pumpkins): "Taylor Swift is one of the most gifted pop artists of all time." Billy Joe Armstrong (Green Day): "Great production. Great voice. Great entertainer. Great songwriting." Gene Simmons (KISS): "There's no question, Taylor Swift has taken over and she's great" Keith Urban: "I mean, God, Taylor's songwriting, it's so extraordinary. There's really no adjectives for it. She's such a great, great writer. So this new album (TTPD) is just more proof of that in really great ways." Raye: "She is just one of those rare timeless artists who gets it right every time. She's an absolute powerhouse. a strange mixture of genuine praise, fellow artists just being respectful/professional, others just not wanting to rock the boat, some lowkey insults and others clearly namedropping her for attention and headlines. also raye stay AWAY from that woman charli did not raise you this way
WildHeart Posted June 16 Posted June 16 17 minutes ago, blaggot said: glad publications are finally starting to tell it like it is when it comes to that lady Indeed 1 hour ago, WildHeart said:
dumbsparce Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) Her too too personal/specific lyrics where she's the only one who can relate to them (Charlie Puth lyric, All Too Well, etc) are incredibly cringy to me. But she also has universally appealing songs and I think that's where her songwriting truly shines. Edited June 16 by dumbsparce
britxbrit Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) Fans, critics, and journalists need to start demanding more from pop stars. The beauty of poptimism is the belief that pop can be important, innovative, and forward-thinking. But the artists themselves aren't living up to that. Poptimism has made pop stars complacent and I can tell it's starting to frustrate pop fans/critics who TRULY believe that pop can be more than what it currently is. TTPD was lazy and Taylor knows it. That's why she's been so hell-bent on releasing dozens and dozens of variants to increase her sales. She knows this album hasn't lived up to her expectations and she's trying to drown out the lukewarm reception it received from critics. She's capable of better, but her current success doesn't inspire her to do better. Edited June 16 by britxbrit 7
Alongoria13 Posted June 16 Posted June 16 No one denies Taylor's success as a performer but it comes at the price of being bland and boring. Put her next to Beyoncé, Madonna and even Gaga and it's very blatant 4
dirrtydiana Posted June 16 Posted June 16 6 hours ago, Kavish said: I understand the criticisms but the fact that millions flock to her tour means she is doing something right There is zero correlation there since millions of sheep also flock to bad bunny concerts. OT: I must agree. I still use her older stuff sometimes but the post 1989 stuff is all watered down uninspired sounding tracks. Which ironically I wouldn't give a second thought to if it wasn't for the bandwagon success stans constantly pushing her down our throats
Arrows Posted June 16 Posted June 16 35 minutes ago, fromily said: fellow artists just being respectful/professional, others just not wanting to rock the boat, some lowkey insults and others clearly namedropping her for attention and headlines. Be honest, which ones do you think fall into these categories?
kayliah Posted June 16 Posted June 16 A small worm really? Can a small worm use rivulets as a synonym for tears. She uses the english language like a mastermind on some of her songs and sounds like a pulitzer winning writer. Clearly using some of her bad lyrics to prove a point that fits your agenda out of hundred of the songs that are lyrically superior... risk taking she did with reputation and guess what it killed her momentum at the time... her fans like Taylor for her not some alter ego and look at madonna when sex stopped selling as she aged she has not been as influential or popular. These antics only last while u r hot while music written from the heart last forever.
kayliah Posted June 16 Posted June 16 A small worm really? Can a small worm use rivulets as a synonym for tears. She uses the english language like a mastermind on some of her songs and sounds like a pulitzer winning writer. Clearly using some of her bad lyrics to prove a point that fits your agenda out of hundred of the songs that are lyrically superior... risk taking she did with reputation and guess what it killed her momentum at the time... her fans like Taylor for her not some alter ego and look at madonna when sex stopped selling as she aged she has not been as influential or popular. These antics only last while u r hot while music written from the heart last forever. 1
dirrtydiana Posted June 16 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, kayliah said: A small worm really? Can a small worm use rivulets as a synonym for tears. She uses the english language like a mastermind on some of her songs and sounds like a pulitzer winning writer. Clearly using some of her bad lyrics to prove a point that fits your agenda out of hundred of the songs that are lyrically superior... risk taking she did with reputation and guess what it killed her momentum at the time... her fans like Taylor for her not some alter ego and look at madonna when sex stopped selling as she aged she has not been as influential or popular. These antics only last while u r hot while music written from the heart last forever. 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted June 16 Posted June 16 49 minutes ago, kayliah said: A small worm really? Can a small worm use rivulets as a synonym for tears. She uses the english language like a mastermind on some of her songs and sounds like a pulitzer winning writer. Clearly using some of her bad lyrics to prove a point that fits your agenda out of hundred of the songs that are lyrically superior... risk taking she did with reputation and guess what it killed her momentum at the time... her fans like Taylor for her not some alter ego and look at madonna when sex stopped selling as she aged she has not been as influential or popular. These antics only last while u r hot while music written from the heart last forever. I can literally tell she opens up a dictionairy with synonyms first, looks for funky ones to implement in a song, and then writes a song around that funky word. Its just so try hard and not natural at all. Its not like she ever uses this vocabulary while speaking. Its literally fabricated. She aint no Maya Angelou who literally served quotable phrases and statements on the daily witj the way she expressed herself.
commander Posted June 16 Posted June 16 52 minutes ago, kayliah said: her songs and sounds like a pulitzer winning writer.
Sweetness Posted June 16 Posted June 16 7 hours ago, Jay07 said: Madonna, Prince, Janet, David Bowie, Beyoncé, Lady Gaga. All massive popstars. Pop doesn't have to mean artless and sophomoric. It's just that audiences have become so dumbed down and complacent they actually want the same content warmed over and served back to them over and over because it's not challenging or confrontational. She literally sells her old albums back to them in multiple variants, that's how low the standard is. Literally a capitalism wet dream. Agreed, when I think pop music I think fun, exciting, interesting, flashy, bops, art, she serves none of this. To call her pop goes against what pop music has always been about. 1 1
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