music news Rina can’t release an album under current conditions, talks about misogyny in music

[LoveInStereo]

29 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

ATRL's edge-lord libertarians hating her in unison and using the same "race card' language really kind of proving her point. 

 

She's petitioning the fact that Dirty Hit only punished Matty in name and he still owns part of the label via his shares.

Rina's not he first to complain about Dirty Hit:

 

 

Libertarian? Talk me through the definition of that word and explain to me how 1 goddamn word I said pertains to libertarianism? You don’t ******* know me & trust me, I don’t care to know you, so save your energy next time & stay out of my quote replies, please! If I knew how to block someone on here, you’d be my first!

Edited March 9 by LoveInStereo

[Gladiator]

Some phags deserve to be bullied.

[Communion]

57 minutes ago, Pendulum said:

Huh, care to explain? Didn't she grow poor or something? I remember an interview from back in her EP days (i-D) where she says her family had financial difficulties with her mum having to juggle two jobs?  Where is this accusation coming from?

 

By going after Matty, she's pissed off weirdos who still listen to things like Red Scare in 2024 and those kinds of people are now going after her in retaliation. Here's the Red Scared subreddit of the same people trying to debunk her upbringing and complaining about how "saying you're a female minority let's people avoid any criticism":

But half of the comments are people getting the degree she got wrong ("she got the degree PMs get!!" "no, that's a PPE, not a PPS..") or claiming to have found what school she went to as a teen and getting it wrong. Them going "odd how her career history is just blank for years, including this alleged rap-pop band she was in..." and yet:

 

She never hid she grew up middle class and that her parents were both educated. In fact, her father's corporate job with Japan Airlines being why they left Japan when she was 5 and then neither her father or his very wealthy family caring that her or her mom struggling financially post-divorce is part of her resentment to him:

 

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In “Dynasty,” I’m talking about how my ******* family has been so selfish at times—with my dad’s side, it’s just a mess. The word “dynasty” is about the inheritance of money, wealth, and a name, and I’ve always grown up being very mystified about my dad’s side because I know they’re very wealthy, but all that’s come of it is pain. Why doesn’t anybody talk about the dynasty of pain?

https://pitchfork.com/features/rising/rina-sawayama-debut-album-interview/

 

But the claim he father "bought" her a music career would be odd given that her parents divorce seemingly severed any communication she had with him?

 

It feels very incel driven that people don't buy an objectively attractive and thin WOC could make enough off modeling gigs to then self-release her own music as a side hustle, especially when the releases weren't huge productions and she was putting out just a song once a year or so.

 

2013:

 

2014:

 

2015:

 

2016:

 

Let alone.. none of these songs charted or made much noise? She only got some traction on Tumblr and blogs with WUA.

How can an industry plant be planted if there's no sprouting? 

Edited March 9 by Communion

[Pendulum]

5 minutes ago, Communion said:

By going after Matty, she's pissed off weirdos who still listen to things like Red Scare in 2024 and those kinds of people are now going after her in retaliation . Here's a  thread on the Red Scared subreddit of the same people trying to debunk her upbringing and complaining about how "saying you're a female minority let's people avoid any criticism":

 But half of the comments are people getting the degree she got wrong ("she got the degree PMs get!!" "no, that's a PPE, not a PPS..") or claiming to have found what school she went to as a teen and getting it wrong. Them going "odd how her career history is just blank for years, including this alleged rap-pop band she was in..." and yet

Yeah, I read that exact reddit thread like an hour ago. Two redditors in the replies claiming they indirectly know of Rina through friend groups  how coincidental? 

 

Kinda confused why this topic was even threaded on a Red Scare subreddit How random 

[Sheep]

@Communion I have never been more grateful for one of your tirades. Rina likes to embellish a little but these ppl take the criticism way too far.

 

HTG was just too earnest and in touch with her inner child for the cynical, emotionally broken internet gays who thought Cyber Stockholm Syndrome was the deepest possible expression of human existence. They really acted betrayed when she started to release music for people who don't hate themselves.

[Communion]

13 minutes ago, Pendulum said:

Yeah, I read that exact reddit thread like an hour ago. Two redditors in the replies claiming they indirectly know of Rina through friend groups  how coincidental? 

 

Kinda confused why this topic was even threaded on a Red Scare subreddit How random 

Cause Red Scare is connected to Cumtown, the political podcast that then spawned the Adam Friedland Show, where the racist jokes happened. 

 

As someone who made some of the first threads about Rina on both here and PopJustice years ago, and is the reason why much of her past work is archived because I went through and archived it literally myself, down to downloading the acoustic Sleeping in Waking demo off her Tumblr page or even screen-recording past music videos off of the directors' Vimeo page, those comments are so.... ??

 

"HER CAREER'S A MYSTERY!! INDUSTRY PLANT!!". I guess no one can dig through the internet as good as a gay pop stan huh. 

Edited March 9 by Communion

[Mydilemma2.0]

Actully I met her in person.. 
Saying her fans are her big light is an overstatement - while I wanted to take a picture and she just ran away lmao. 

 

 

Nonetheless I really hope for the best for her and that she will be able to release her music soon 

[Movimento Perpétuo]

Ugh, that's so sad. I had no idea she was in this situation 

Also, so comments here are...interesting, let's just say that. ATRL being despicable...what's new?

[Lady Claire]

Some of the replies in here are so weird

 

I didn't like HTG either but i wish Rina the best. Such a shitty situation

[Junho_lover]

She likes to whine a lot it seems. Cannot stand her personality at time, but I hope she gets better health wise. 

[Daglazzo]

Omg I read this whole thread thinking it was Rihanna and I was about to visit Rihanna thread to see the meltdown 

[ahauntingnearu]

12 hours ago, Junho_lover said:

She likes to whine a lot it seems. Cannot stand her personality at time, but I hope she gets better health wise. 

Shut it dunce. 

[West Coast]

FREE RINA

 

[bestfiction]

Wait so she has only one album left in her contract? She can pull a Mariah and churn out an album real quick and go

[Scabandplaster]

The 180 the collective internet has done on her is bizarre. 

[Abracadabra]

On 3/9/2024 at 4:10 PM, AlleeX said:

I kinda still don't get this. Is she forced to work with her abusers, or she's giving a general statement about the music industry and somehow connecting it to her not releasing stuff? But still fully working in the industry? Like what difference does an album release actually make here?

If she's this unwell she should just take a big break or quit, if she has the strength to perform/do whatever her stuff was this year, I don't get how racism and mysogyny is connected to that. I'm prob being massively insensitive or missing more context, but personally, I loved her first record and then just never checked back because I didn't like the music. I'm sure she experiences a lot of backlash, but a majority of casual listeners just checked out along the way and it was never that deep.

I don't really get these comments about how her listeners checked out or that her career is suffering because of her music quality when by all accounts HTG did well for her, her public profile was raised considerably during that era especially in the UK, the album peaked at #3 as opposed to her debut peaking at #80, HTG tour was bigger and more successful than for her first album, and the album also was well received by critics. Sure, she may have lost a few online gays who wanted her to make another XS, but her fanbase also grew during HTG era.

 

From what I gathered from her statement is that it's not that racism is holding her back commercially, it's that she's finding the racism she has received from the public and within the industry hard to handle.

 

On 3/9/2024 at 4:22 PM, LoveInStereo said:

She should move into politics. The deflection is unreal. She was just on the cover of ******* British Vogue yet she'd have you believe she's industry blacklisted. Representation is important. That said, anybody who can't see how frequently she pulls the diversity/marginalization card to compensate for how her music isn't resonating with an audience is totally gullible. The very thing she claims is a hindrance to her success is actually the only thing getting her anywhere professionally. If she was a straight white dude screaming on global stages about her label with no hits & poor album units, she'd be dropped by now

After she spoke about Matty Healy last year her comments were flooded with racist messages, so to say that her speaking out about the racism she has received is "deflection" is.... interesting, I'll say that. And it's kind of hilarious how you think she'd somehow be in a worse position if she was a white male, when one of the main reasons she has received so much racist abuse is because she spoke out about a white male. Not sure exactly why you imagined that she said that being Asian was a "hindrance to her success", because nowhere did she say that, and to say that her race is "the only thing getting her anywhere professionally"... well that's just straight up racist.

[GardenPanty]

On 3/11/2024 at 12:02 AM, Scabandplaster said:

The 180 the collective internet has done on her is bizarre. 

It's because of her music quality. SAWAYAMA was an excellent project but the follow up was horrible. I don't understand where she went wrong but changing her style did not do her any favors. 

[monologueNacafe]

On 3/9/2024 at 8:29 AM, Troll Idle said:

This post is slightly racist. I wish people would use their brains for a second before posting.

It is and should be reported

[monologueNacafe]

all these weird racist/ignorant posts in here. No surprise tho