charts discussion Taylor ties Elvis on Billboard 200

[Holiest Dreams]

Most weeks at #1 for a soloist  

 

 

[Tropez]

She will break every record. It’s pretty obvious she’s the biggest artist of all time. 

[Feanor]

Hopefully these last 2-3 days of Christmas shopping will give '1989 (TV)' enough of a boost for it to remain #1 for another week. Finishing the year as the soloist with the most weeks at #1 would be a nice final achievement for this historic year.  

[Jjang]

47 minutes ago, Tropez said:

She will break every record. It’s pretty obvious she’s the biggest artist of all time. 

she will never be bigger than the beatles or mj. stop spewing bs. 

 

shes a massive force even on all time lists and thats recognized but when kids in 2054 are singing august then you can talk that talk. 

[BtDecember]

7 minutes ago, Jjang said:

she will never be bigger than the beatles or mj. stop spewing bs. 

 

shes a massive force even on all time lists and thats recognized but when kids in 2054 are singing august then you can talk that talk. 

Well hopefully you would still be alive in 2054 then granpa 

[Kasix]

16 minutes ago, Jjang said:

she will never be bigger than the beatles or mj. stop spewing bs. 

 

shes a massive force even on all time lists and thats recognized but when kids in 2054 are singing august then you can talk that talk. 

Just cus your fave flopped and nobody listens to them anymore doesn’t mean Taylor will end up like them. Stop projecting 

[Badgalbriel]

19 minutes ago, Jjang said:

when kids in 2054 are singing august then you can talk that talk. 

And they will. This newer generation Swifties will make sure this happens when they have their kids

[feelslikeadream]

I don't understand this random belief that Taylor won't transcend generations. I mean, my 4-year-old nieces and nephews sing along to her, my 20-year-old students are obsessed with her, my mother was a "Lover" stan (song, not album), etc.

[Jjang]

44 minutes ago, BtDecember said:

Well hopefully you would still be alive in 2054 then granpa 

Im gen z and prolly younger than you so theres no reason why i wouldn’t be, dummy. 

 

im just not delusional. to pretend like Taylor is FOR SURE gonna transcend generations is just a throwaway sentiment fueled by her current domination and the newness of the streaming era dynamics. time will clock you. 

[Badgalbriel]

3 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Im gen z and prolly younger than you so theres no reason why i wouldn’t be, dummy. 

 

im just not delusional. to pretend like Taylor is FOR SURE gonna transcend generations is just a throwaway sentiment fueled by her current domination and the newness of the streaming era dynamics. time will clock you. 

Why are you so certain? From all the girls that debuted in the 2000s, she's the only one still relevant. Why would she not be relevant 20 years from now? 

[Squall]

1 hour ago, Jjang said:

Im gen z and prolly younger than you so theres no reason why i wouldn’t be, dummy. 

 

im just not delusional. to pretend like Taylor is FOR SURE gonna transcend generations is just a throwaway sentiment fueled by her current domination and the newness of the streaming era dynamics. time will clock you. 

She has been a force for almost 20 years now and going by her numbers, it’s not going to stop anytime soon. Her trajectory is something that has never been seen in the industry before so maybe you should stop acting like people won’t know about her songs « in 2054 », because trust me, no one cares about your Raven Baxter powers

Edited December 25, 2023 by Squall

[1989]

She’s simply a historical artist. 

[JawBreaker]

35 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Im gen z and prolly younger than you so theres no reason why i wouldn’t be, dummy. 

 

im just not delusional. to pretend like Taylor is FOR SURE gonna transcend generations is just a throwaway sentiment fueled by her current domination and the newness of the streaming era dynamics. time will clock you. 

When it's all said and done Taylor will be the best selling solo artist of all time. Let's not even talk female artist cuz she will be 100m+ album units ahead. Time will be the ultimate truth teller

 

 

 

OT: Greatest Billboard 200 artist of all time incoming 

 

@elincomprendid you're always updating Taylor's Hot100 artist points but never her album artists points why is that bestie? She must be pretty close to overtaking the Beatles right? 

 

[BtDecember]

1 hour ago, Jjang said:

Im gen z and prolly younger than you so theres no reason why i wouldn’t be, dummy. 

 

im just not delusional. to pretend like Taylor is FOR SURE gonna transcend generations is just a throwaway sentiment fueled by her current domination and the newness of the streaming era dynamics. time will clock you. 

Taylor is literally among top artists for over 15 years, are you serious? She dominated the charts, sales, touring, and awards in the 2010s and she is also the front-runner this decade. Many prestigious publications and top universities has been praising and studying her music and her impact while her whole catalogue continues to sell YEARS after they were released. If she completely stops being a musician today her musical legacy will continue to live on decades from now. There is a reason why her discography is among the HIGHEST valued intangible properties in the world. 
 

You're a Gen Z? Then why tf do you talk as if you know things about the music when you are relatively knew to this? And oh sure, time will clock YOU instead. Taylor's fans from her early years just grew and now they have children who also became Swifties as seen on the Eras Tour were both parents and their children bonded together while they're singing her songs. This will continue to happen in the coming generations, and I am not exagerating. 

[Jjang]

34 minutes ago, BtDecember said:

Taylor is literally among top artists for over 15 years, are you serious? She dominated the charts, sales, touring, and awards in the 2010s and she is also the front-runner this decade. Many prestigious publications and top universities has been praising and studying her music and her impact while her whole catalogue continues to sell YEARS after they were released. If she completely stops being a musician today her musical legacy will continue to live on decades from now. There is a reason why her discography is among the HIGHEST valued intangible properties in the world. 
 

You're a Gen Z? Then why tf do you talk as if you know things about the music when you are relatively knew to this? And oh sure, time will clock YOU instead. Taylor's fans from her early years just grew and now they have children who also became Swifties as seen on the Eras Tour were both parents and their children bonded together while they're singing her songs. This will continue to happen in the coming generations, and I am not exagerating. 

this is an opinion board. I don’t think Taylor has what it takes to transcend generations of music. you don’t know the future and neither do I. Personally I believe we live in a very distinct momentum in terms of music consumption and  I don’t think Taylor will match MJ/Beatles legacy in 30 year time. That is my opinion. cry about it. 

 

I live in the middle east for instance and outside of the 0.00001% of americanized society that gives a **** about “taylor swift” there’s really not much talk about her. this is a shared experience with billions of people. Meanwhile Beatles or MJ were just a standard artist to listen to or be familiar with growing up. 

 

I don’t think she has a transcendent talent or music. its literally that simple. the teenage angsty mood she caters to might be over in 5 years. let alone 30. 

 

[elincomprendid]

2 hours ago, JawBreaker said:

When it's all said and done Taylor will be the best selling solo artist of all time. Let's not even talk female artist cuz she will be 100m+ album units ahead. Time will be the ultimate truth teller

 

 

 

OT: Greatest Billboard 200 artist of all time incoming 

 

@elincomprendid you're always updating Taylor's Hot100 artist points but never her album artists points why is that bestie? She must be pretty close to overtaking the Beatles right? 

 

The Hot 100 GOAT formula & years multipliers was made public by people in pulse that discovered it which allows me to use it, meanwhile BB200 GOAT formula was never made public by the people that discovered it so I can’t calculate them yet

[elincomprendid]

3 hours ago, Jjang said:

Im gen z and prolly younger than you so theres no reason why i wouldn’t be, dummy. 

 

im just not delusional. to pretend like Taylor is FOR SURE gonna transcend generations is just a throwaway sentiment fueled by her current domination and the newness of the streaming era dynamics. time will clock you. 

Taylor has already transcended generations, that was kinda one of the most iconic things of eras tour seeing how it was a multi-generational female event gathering from adult women to young kids

 

Original swifties are already parents with kids that are turned into swifties as well

[Arrows]

1 hour ago, Jjang said:

the teenage angsty mood she caters to might be over in 5 years. let alone 30. 

 

It has lasted for 18 years now but will be over in 5? Sure jan.

 

Maybe if you were older you’d see that Taylor’s career trajectory has never happened before in world history.

[Ash12345]

2 hours ago, Jjang said:

this is an opinion board. I don’t think Taylor has what it takes to transcend generations of music. you don’t know the future and neither do I. Personally I believe we live in a very distinct momentum in terms of music consumption and  I don’t think Taylor will match MJ/Beatles legacy in 30 year time. That is my opinion. cry about it. 

 

I live in the middle east for instance and outside of the 0.00001% of americanized society that gives a **** about “taylor swift” there’s really not much talk about her. this is a shared experience with billions of people. Meanwhile Beatles or MJ were just a standard artist to listen to or be familiar with growing up. 

 

I don’t think she has a transcendent talent or music. its literally that simple. the teenage angsty mood she caters to might be over in 5 years. let alone 30. 

 

Eminem's angsty music is still smashing enough for him to be one of the biggest artists on the annual IFPI charts despite not having a significant album for 10 years.

 

I don't see why Taylor won't be to 90s-00s born women what Eminem was to Millennial men, especially since her body of work is larger, more consistent and more successful. IMO Taylor will smash for the rest of the decade, and keep cruising and accumulating large numbers of units into the 2030s-2040s. It's just conservation of momentum at this point. 

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, Jjang said:

this is an opinion board. I don’t think Taylor has what it takes to transcend generations of music. you don’t know the future and neither do I. Personally I believe we live in a very distinct momentum in terms of music consumption and  I don’t think Taylor will match MJ/Beatles legacy in 30 year time. That is my opinion. cry about it. 

 

I live in the middle east for instance and outside of the 0.00001% of americanized society that gives a **** about “taylor swift” there’s really not much talk about her. this is a shared experience with billions of people. Meanwhile Beatles or MJ were just a standard artist to listen to or be familiar with growing up. 

 

I don’t think she has a transcendent talent or music. its literally that simple. the teenage angsty mood she caters to might be over in 5 years. let alone 30. 

 

Why are you acting like she is a new artist that just debuted?  Taylor has been around for almost two decades, her being at her peak this long into her already massive career IS the evidence to suggest she will continue to reach further generations.

[Jjang]

8 hours ago, Headlock said:

Why are you acting like she is a new artist that just debuted?  Taylor has been around for almost two decades, her being at her peak this long into her already massive career IS the evidence to suggest she will continue to reach further generations.

 

I didn’t say she’s new I said IMO her music and brand don’t have what it takes to be generationally transcendent globally in the same manner that the Beatles and MJ still are 50 + years into their careers. 

 

She was always a huge seller (thanks to her country base) but let’s not act she’s been the talk of the town and on her imperial phase esp. globally since 2006. It began 7 years after that, calmed down a bit  and then spearheaded again with the re-releases campaign. 

 

I don’t think kids 30 years from now are gonna care about her re-releasing her music, her boring easter eggs, her dire performances or anything that makes her now culturally significant because her significance has like 90% to do with her just being a massive seller and building on that momentum. 

 

People could actually name you specific Beatles songs that changed the trajectory and the way we listen to music. the same can be said about MJ and his performances/persona/videos. Their legacies are eternal and felt through generations because they exist outside the frame of just being wildly consumed. Time can remove the significance of that. 

 

I actually think Lana has more of a chance at becoming that (sort of a Nirvana like effect) than Taylor lol. 

Edited December 25, 2023 by Jjang

[AaronBryceSufjan]

6 minutes ago, Jjang said:

I actually think Lana has more of a chance at becoming that

not saying her works aren't good but it's only 2023 and most ppl only remember Summertime Sadness (cuz of TikTok) from her discography 

[Squall]

1 hour ago, Jjang said:

 

I didn’t say she’s new I said IMO her music and brand don’t have what it takes to be generationally transcendent globally in the same manner that the Beatles and MJ still are 50 + years into their careers. 

 

She was always a huge seller (thanks to her country base) but let’s not act she’s been the talk of the town and on her imperial phase esp. globally since 2006. It began 7 years after that, calmed down a bit  and then spearheaded again with the re-releases campaign. 

 

I don’t think kids 30 years from now are gonna care about her re-releasing her music, her boring easter eggs, her dire performances or anything that makes her now culturally significant because her significance has like 90% to do with her just being a massive seller and building on that momentum. 

 

People could actually name you specific Beatles songs that changed the trajectory and the way we listen to music. the same can be said about MJ and his performances/persona/videos. Their legacies are eternal and felt through generations because they exist outside the frame of just being wildly consumed. Time can remove the significance of that. 

 

I actually think Lana has more of a chance at becoming that (sort of a Nirvana like effect) than Taylor lol. 

 

[Jjang]

4 minutes ago, Squall said:

 

wow wildly bad lyrics 

[Squall]

Just now, Jjang said:

wow wildly bad lyrics 

Rumours say she wrote them about you, it must be a reason, who knows?