artist stats Taylor surpasses Mariah, becomes third bestselling female of all time: Chartmasters

[Mandalay]

6 minutes ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

The joke is on people who add albums with singles to come with record sales. By that logic, billie dua sold nothing as record sales concept makes no sense today. Ifpi billboard themselves use equivalents methodology now, but sure stay oblivious. Because it is only way to cope and please yourself. As she will keep going up and up. And eventually become best selling female artist of all time. And one day best selling solo artist. It must be hard to digest

What's there to digest? Her success is impressive no argument here, however, touring aside, it's not GP driven like artists of the past. Her post-1989 output has been cliched to appease a certain demographic. I doubt she will have many remembered hits in the future. It will be good if she does that. 

[Cruel Summer]

10 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

The Swifties’ narrative these past couple of days is unmatched: 

 

“Taylor Swift only rivals the Beatles but she does not after all considering she’s third among female artists and way behind them but she’s the third biggest female of all time on a site that we don’t normally treat as reliable unless of course it’s about Taylor then it’s okay and she’s now third among all females but according to Guinness World Records she's behind Rihanna but that’s okay because she sold 1 million copies outside of the US but none of those can be accounted for but she’s like the third biggest or the fourth biggest or rivals The Beatles or she doesn’t but she’s still the biggest of all time despite not being bigger than Madonna but she rivals the Beatles without stats to back it up because she sold 15 million units this year in the US which is unprecedented until it isn’t because Eminem sold more in 2002 but she’s bigger then him but she isn’t but she’s the new MJ” 

 

The way they are a joke to everybody but their own co-stans is the funniest thing ever 

ChartMasters is imperfect, but can you furnish a source that does a better job at what they do, the compilation of global music consumption figures? And I don't mean the beer company book that sources their figures from Jimmy Fallon episodes if they provide a source at all and uses figures that add pure album sales to pure single sales. The "1 million copies outside the US" claim is just plain confusing, Eminem did not sell more in 2002 than Taylor did this year, and selling 15 million units in the US in one year is unprecedented (at least in the Soundscan era, which is the last 32 years and the entirety of the time we've had even semi-reliable data).

[adylovestaylorandjb]

4 minutes ago, Mandalay said:

What's there to digest? Her success is impressive no argument here, however, touring aside, it's not GP driven like artists of the past. Her post-1989 output has been cliched to appease a certain demographic. I doubt she will have many remembered hits in the future. It will be good if she does that. 

What is certain demographic? I didn't know theatres here which sold out are full of the said demographic u claim! 

 

You don't sell 40 million album units in year without gp. Gp is streaming her music. If you think gl is her stan base, then that's great

[KOMH]

There we have it. Another woeful meltdown from a stan whose fave isn't, and will never be part of the conversation. 

 

[differentkindahigh]

They were upset about all the Madonna threads & needed this to try and make them feel better. Miss swift is the Mcdonalds of the music industry 

 

Edited November 5, 2023 by differentkindahigh

[adylovestaylorandjb]

The user having meltdown over pure sales in 2023. 🤣Looks like people haven't moved on with times. Taylor will become best selling solo artist of all time and u can cry about versions etc.

 

Taylor never had flop album as well. Looks like haters having hard times to live in present because she will keep breaking records. Equivalent is industry method and u can stay stuck to ur old age pure sales rofl. Because that is how you can cope. Seethe

Edited November 5, 2023 by adylovestaylorandjb

[Mandalay]

1 minute ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

What is certain demographic? I didn't know theatres here which sold out are full of the said demographic u claim! 

 

You don't sell 40 million album units in year without gp. Gp is streaming her music. If you think gl is her stan base, then that's great

Do you think the GP know her songs like they do with Dancing Queen or Bohemian Rhapsody?

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Just now, Mandalay said:

Do you think the GP know her songs like they do with Dancing Queen or Bohemian Rhapsody?

That will we see in future. Queens greatest hit album didn't become iconic from day one but with decades. Taylor old albums catalog sales are amazing. Other female artist never had such charting power in catalog. Her songs have amazing catalog. And yes I believe she will stand test of time

[adylovestaylorandjb]

4 hours ago, stevyy said:

correct phrasing. the word is units, not sales. 

 

But why are people saying in this thread that Mariah never had any hit albums?

And units is the one that matters to industry. Your point? 

[differentkindahigh]

7 minutes ago, Mandalay said:

Do you think the GP know her songs like they do with Dancing Queen or Bohemian Rhapsody?

Imagine the entire world singing ME!, Shake It Off, Cruel Summer, Tea Time, or We Are Never Ever Ever Getting Back Together in 15 years. Not gonna happen 

Edited November 5, 2023 by differentkindahigh

[JaXXXon]

14 minutes ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

Other female artist never had such charting power in catalog. 

Invalid point considering how many times the fans of said older females listened to their older albums at home when they were peaking (Whitney in 1992, for example) wasn’t counted towards the charts nor were they counted for as a unit in their overall sales. 

[JaXXXon]

23 minutes ago, KOMH said:

There we have it. Another woeful meltdown from a stan whose fave isn't, and will never be part of the conversation. 

 

I don’t know why you’re making this a stan war but one of those faves had one of the biggest popularity peaks of all time and is also both an Oscar winner and a Oscar nominated Actress while the other is literally Michael Jackson and, frankly, both artists’ accomplishments are conversations Taylor will likely never be part of either.  
 

Now, be a dear and go built that clock you bought 50 versions of one album for 

[taylorrrr]

8 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

I don’t know why you’re making this a stan war but one of those faves had one of the biggest popularity peaks of all time and is also both an Oscar winner and a Oscar nominated Actress while the other is literally Michael Jackson and, frankly, both artists’ accomplishments are conversations Taylor will likely never be part of either.  
 

Now, be a dear and go built that clock you bought 50 versions of one album for 

While you're at it, build a clock over the so-called biggest popularity peak that happens more than a decade and stream your fave new music to get it to Billboard 200 first or anywhere. 

 

[Funnyfatty]

The way the first page is filled with swifties expecting people to fume yet no one said anything

 

Tells a lot about them and how much they (just like their fave) live in their own reality. Mariah will forever be above Taylor and no matter how much she will sell will chance that. 

[JaXXXon]

2 minutes ago, taylorrrr said:

While you're at it, build a clock over the so-called biggest popularity peak that happens more than a decade and stream your fave new music to get it to Billboard 200 first or anywhere. 

 

What you said made no sense but cute attempt nonetheless 

[Taemira]

and it still feels like AIWFCIY is bigger and more impactful & important than taylor's entire catalog? lol

[adylovestaylorandjb]

25 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

Invalid point considering how many times the fans of said older females listened to their older albums at home when they were peaking (Whitney in 1992, for example) wasn’t counted towards the charts nor were they counted for as a unit in their overall sales. 

Not Invalid. Female artist catalog had terrible charting on catalog charts compared to legacy rock bands and male artists even then. They were bad catalog sellers. Tic can't chart like never mind week after week despite having her biggest hits

 

Taylor has always been an exception in catalog sales. Only one who is invalid here is u because u can't digest the fact industry changed and how best selling is counted today

Edited November 5, 2023 by adylovestaylorandjb

[KOMH]

3 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

I don’t know why you’re making this a stan war but one of those faves had one of the biggest popularity peaks of all time and is also both an Oscar winner and a Oscar nominated Actress while the other is literally Michael Jackson and, frankly, both artists’ accomplishments are conversations Taylor will likely never be part of either.  

So in other words she's got as much of a legacy as Juicy J and Sam Smith. Not sure how Academy awards relate to the topic at hand but between the two only one is a General Field Grammy winner and it's not the Bradley Cooper collaborator.  

[Sweeftie13]

36 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said:

Imagine the entire world singing ME!, Shake It Off, Cruel Summer, Tea Time, or We Are Never Ever Ever Getting Back Together in 15 years. Not gonna happen 

her catalog will not be remembered for hit songs, but hee albums will be listened to in their entirety: 1989, Red, Fearless and Folklore are already her Classics. Furthermore, in recent years we have seen how songs like Love Story, You Belong With me, Enchanted, all too well, I knew you were trouble, Blank Space, Style, Gateway Car, Cruel Summer, Lover, Cardigan and August are on the way to become classics so you have no more arguments

[taylorrrr]

5 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

What you said made no sense but cute attempt nonetheless 

Not my fault that you can't understand simple sentences. Maybe get a dictionary while you're streaming your fave to get it to chart first 

 

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Taylor catalog will not be focused on one song and will be remembered. Lover will be heard throughout weddings and funerals forever. Tv shows will keep using her songs like wildest dreams etc.  Love story is her classic. She is album artist throughout. I am glad she doesn't have that one song whereas other of her catalog is forgotten. Na I will never want that for Taylor. She herself creates albums for decades.

[JaXXXon]

7 minutes ago, KOMH said:

So in other words she's got as much of a legacy as Juicy J and Sam Smith. Not sure how Academy awards relate to the topic at hand but between the two only one is a General Field Grammy winner and it's not the Bradley Cooper collaborator.  

She’s a nominated actress and if winning an Oscar is so easy then why hasn’t Taylor won? We know she tried, especially last year 

Edited November 5, 2023 by JaXXXon

[Axelios]

58 minutes ago, Mandalay said:

Do you think the GP know her songs like they do with Dancing Queen or Bohemian Rhapsody?

Madonna doesn't have any song as well known and remembered as Bohemian Rhapsody and yet she is still the best selling female artist of all time.

[Funnyfatty]

1 hour ago, Axelios said:

Madonna doesn't have any song as well known and remembered as Bohemian Rhapsody and yet she is still the best selling female artist of all time.

Like a prayer and La Is La Bonita say hello and fy

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Those songs are no where remembered  as BR. Not even close🤣