charts discussion BB200: Lover has its biggest sales year 4 years after release

[byzantium]

Is that Miley Cyrus fan going to have a meltdown again?  

[Digitalism]

So you mean that an album that was released in August  so it only had 4 months of sales is selling more in 2023 the year it had it's biggest hit during her peak?

 

[Bosque]

It also hit a new peak of #3 on the Weekly Spotify Global album chart, just behind the new Bad Bunny and Drake releases 

 

 

[Cruel Summer]

4 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

So you mean that an album that was released in August  so it only had 4 months of sales is selling more in 2023 the year it had it's biggest hit during her peak?

 

I think they mean that an album that was released four years ago is only just now having its biggest year, which is extremely unusual (regardless of how and why) in a music market where most albums peak in their release year or the year immediately after.

[Digitalism]

Just now, Cruel Summer said:

I think they mean that an album that was released four years ago is only just now having its biggest year, which is extremely unusual (regardless of how and why) in a music market where most albums peak in their release year or the year immediately after.

Yeah but aren't all of taylor albums selling a lot during her peak? And none of those had the biggest hit of the album this year.

This isn't that weird

[1989]

50 minutes ago, IBeMe said:

she kinda has to give is a re release with All of The Gays, Lover (Titanic Shawn Mendes Remix), Need and the Cruel Summer Live from Eras Tour audio tacked on! 

We can leave this one off 

 

[Slayn]

[JawBreaker]

15 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

Yeah but aren't all of taylor albums selling a lot during her peak? And none of those had the biggest hit of the album this year.

This isn't that weird

During her last peak which was 1989 her old albums werent moving units like this so yeah it is indeed weird 

[Digitalism]

4 minutes ago, JawBreaker said:

During her last peak which was 1989 her old albums werent moving units like this so yeah it is indeed weird 

There was no spotify back then

A lot of artists are moving units from their previous albums now because of streaming. So it's not weird at all that the artist having the biggest peak of the streaming era is doing this. Specially in Lover's case where she is having a hit at the moment because they re released a song and she only had 4 months of sales on the year it was released. This was expected 

[SwiftLover]

the COPING in here 

 

 

[Bindi]

She just can’t stop winning—

[byzantium]

56 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

So you mean that an album that was released in August  so it only had 4 months of sales is selling more in 2023 the year it had it's biggest hit during her peak?

 

I mean it’s still a Taylor swift album.  Even without a #1 hit they sell a lot.  I genuinely thought that Lover sold more in 2019.  Considering it debuted with around 860k. 

[PoisonPill]

Impressive, however Lover only had sales from the final 4 months of 2019, so a bit apples and oranges comparison.

[JawBreaker]

40 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

There was no spotify back then

A lot of artists are moving units from their previous albums now because of streaming. So it's not weird at all that the artist having the biggest peak of the streaming era is doing this. Specially in Lover's case where she is having a hit at the moment because they re released a song and she only had 4 months of sales on the year it was released. This was expected 

They didnt rerelease cruel summer it just blew up on it's own and they decided to send it to radio.

It dont matter how many months it had in 2019 like the other user told you albums by major artist like Taylor dont have their albums peak in sales 4 years after release. They peak insales the same year or the year right after.

Also I said in the OP that Taylor was called a frontloaded artist. So yeah I am very shocked by this chart fact 

 

[Cruel Summer]

1 hour ago, Digitalism said:

There was no spotify back then

A lot of artists are moving units from their previous albums now because of streaming. So it's not weird at all that the artist having the biggest peak of the streaming era is doing this. Specially in Lover's case where she is having a hit at the moment because they re released a song and she only had 4 months of sales on the year it was released. This was expected 

Which other artists have any albums from 2021 and prior that are moving more units this year than they ever have?

[LastKiss]

2 hours ago, monster_enriquer said:

Do we have a breakdown of her album units? Do we think lover might even make it to top 3?

Well... TOP 7. 

All her first 6 albums have sold between 6million and 12million units.

That's the power of pure sales for you

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Lover has moved nearly 9 million units outside America but people will say she is local. 🤣

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Taylor was always a catalog seller even before streaming. Her albums used to last longer than other female artists. Pls don't spew bs. It is also due to fact she never let any greatest hits eat away her catalog sales.

 

No other artist land so many albums in billboard week after week. People stream her music because she has the demand. She will end up as biggest selling women of all time and people can cope. Her catalog is legendary as it gets. 

 

[RobynYoBank]

1 hour ago, adylovestaylorandjb said:

Taylor was always a catalog seller even before streaming. Her albums used to last longer than other female artists. Pls don't spew bs. It is also due to fact she never let any greatest hits eat away her catalog sales.

 

No other artist land so many albums in billboard week after week. People stream her music because she has the demand. She will end up as biggest selling women of all time and people can cope. Her catalog is legendary as it gets. 

 

Yes, she and Drake have always been the biggest catalogue sellers.

[cat1867]

3 hours ago, BtDecember said:

Hmm.

 

Both 1989 and Fearless are over 10 million in the US for sure. Midnights and Lover just passed 6 million this week (they are really close) but Midnights did it much quicker (in just a year) so I give the edge to her. Lover being fourth is not too bad.

 

Wait, I forgot the debut. It might actually be fifth because I think the debut sold 6 million as well (might be 7 million now), but I would still put Midnights above debut since she did it faster.

Lover has been outselling Midnights recently. As the older album, it likely will have more stability than Midnights so it might outperform it in the long run despite Midnight's head start.

 

debut might currently have more sales (also top 18th album of all time according to billboard lol) but its barely moving any units currently so midnights and lover will surpass.

[littlebodybigheart]

3 hours ago, Digitalism said:

So you mean that an album that was released in August  so it only had 4 months of sales is selling more in 2023 the year it had it's biggest hit during her peak?

 

babes, the album opened with 867k sales. that in itself is a huge advantage and a headstart. the fact that lover has managed to close that gap 4 years later is extremely impressive. let’s not act obtuse.

[BtDecember]

59 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

Lover has been outselling Midnights recently. As the older album, it likely will have more stability than Midnights so it might outperform it in the long run despite Midnight's head start.

 

debut might currently have more sales (also top 18th album of all time according to billboard lol) but its barely moving any units currently so midnights and lover will surpass.

I think Midnights will start to chart higher again once Cruel Summer dies, so I think it will be slightly bigger than Lover. It’s really crazy how Lover was revived by the tour. Its initial run was only comparable to Speak Now/Red/Reputation which only has like 16 weeks in the top 10, even Folklore has more impressive initial run in BB 00. But now it’s her fourth longest album in the top 10

 

Debut will get the recognition she deserves once the TV is out

[chiliam]

The GP really love this album, huh?

As a rep stan, im ok with Lover being the GP album and rep is for the fan.

[Headlock]

6 hours ago, Digitalism said:

So you mean that an album that was released in August  so it only had 4 months of sales is selling more in 2023 the year it had it's biggest hit during her peak?

 

Why are you acting like this is a normal occurrence for an album released in 2019 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Headlock

[Prodigal Self]

1989 TV can't come soon enough, Losver been dominating for like 6 months already