istan4badgalriri Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, spree said: So we should dispute Guinness and take some random ATRL users opinion instead as fact? Guinness World link says this is based on what Madonna claimed during a Jimmy Fallon episode
TROJAN Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: Congrats but that doesn't include converted sps. It is record sales and double counting. It is simply adding singles with albums and then streams. It is same way where people say rihanna sold 300 million plus records. And the real equivalents will not be this. People deliberately acting oblivious. Thank you! As someone with a Master’s Degree in Statistics, these 400M sales aren’t totally accurate. I’m not impressed. 2 2 1 6
differentkindahigh Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, TROJAN said: Thank you! As someone with a Master’s Degree in Statistics, these 400M sales aren’t totally accurate. I’m not impressed. As someone with a minor in business, these 400M SALES account for the money circulating in her empire. 1 1
HardBambi Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Some Queens get 400 million streams Mother sells 400 million records. 7
tiagol88 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: Congrats but that doesn't include converted sps. It is record sales and double counting. It is simply adding singles with albums and then streams. It is same way where people say rihanna sold 300 million plus records. And the real equivalents will not be this. People deliberately acting oblivious. You mean like the double counting that exists nowadays with streaming where when you stream a song you earn "sales" for both singles and albums? 6 1
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, tiagol88 said: You mean like the double counting that exists nowadays with streaming where when you stream a song you earn "sales" for both singles and albums? When we talk about overall equivalent, that double counting is converted into one. I m mot talking about charts but career sps. Where singles are converted into album units and there is no double counting then 1 1
Mr. Mendes Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: It is simply adding singles with albums and then streams. It’s almost like this is how all catalogue sales are counted, hence the terminology being “400 million units” instead of “400 million albums” or “400 million singles”. It’s lifetime catalogue sales with all formats. Edited October 23, 2023 by Mr. Mendes
Katamari Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 That user having a meltdown in here ot: queen of pop eternal 4 4 1
GlamSlam Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, TROJAN said: Thank you! As someone with a Master’s Degree in Statistics, these 400M sales aren’t totally accurate. I’m not impressed. Madonna's been in the business for 40 years and said months ago she's "OVER 400m", so it's more. She knows what she's talking about, and I'd rather listen to her than Trojan (and a bunch of jealous and spiteful haters on ATRL) 1 3
Frogger17 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, TROJAN said: Thank you! As someone with a Master’s Degree in Statistics, these 400M sales aren’t totally accurate. I’m not impressed. Your grammar isn't impressive, either, tbh. Your sentence states that the 400M sales are the ones with a Master's Degree. 3 1
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Katamari said: That user having a meltdown in here ot: queen of pop eternal Quote directly. I am just pointing out the correction. How am I having meltdown? Can your provide breakdown? Or you like fake inflated numbers Edited October 23, 2023 by adylovestaylorandjb 2 3
Mocha Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 now imagine if people listening to their cd's and cassettes counted as streams back then 5
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mr. Mendes said: It’s almost like this is how all catalogue sales are counted, hence the terminology being “400 million units” instead of “400 million albums” or “400 million singles”. It’s lifetime catalogue sales with all formats. My point is singles are not valued on same weightage by ifpi. So 400 million records is generic term . Not actual equivalent 1 3
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Mocha said: now imagine if people listening to their cd's and cassettes counted as streams back then Na don't work that way. There are thousand of streams that get converted to just one sale. It gets equivalent weightage 1 4
Kimi Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Double counting lmao we don't use units in streaming era. 1 2
Mocha Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, adylovestaylorandjb said: Na don't work that way. There are thousand of streams that get converted to just one sale. It gets equivalent weightage she is still the undisputed queen of music and mother to all 1 1
Kimi Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mocha said: she is still the undisputed queen of music and mother to all Taylor will easily surpass her tho. 2 1 1 5
JawBreaker Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Oh wow is this the same methodology that was used by stans back in 2019 where they had Rihanna at 600m units? Oh wow congrats to Madonna on being the 2nd bestselling female artist of all time 2
Capris Groove Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 To the doubters, she's actually very undercertified in the USA (and other countries - for instance, we know "Like a Virgin" should be at least 6x platinum in the UK). Either way, she's second only to MJ in proper sales. 3
pisuke Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 People... all of you were born in a world where Madonna is the best selling female artist in history and you will die in a world where she still is the best selling female. Y'all might as well accept reality no matter how hard it may be for y'all 3 5 1
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