charts discussion Final predictions (11/4): Cruel Summer #1 (x2), Water #21

[naval23]

5 minutes ago, HappierJealousy said:

Sadly this is not going to happen, radio seems to start to drop it and honestly her team has done anything they can to push it. Generally song like this will peak at #5-#10, it already has great peak due to multiple versions and weak chart, its chart run is amazing tho

Damn. The way if the remix was released a few weeks ago it would've been a #1 for her but there's no way they could've predicted it would've blew up on radio the way it did 

[simmnfierzig]

16 minutes ago, Pikachu said:

what's the criteria for a recurrent song to rechart?

Who knows. Not sure if Billboard knows

 

But recently they have let a lot of song reenter, especially after being pushed out by christmas or album bombs. 

But idk about Anti-Hero being top 25 again in 3 weeks. Seems like a lot 

[Raspberries]

Cruel Summer increasing  

[omrimayo]

 

Billboard Early Predictions 1.(=) Cruel Summer - 277pts [+2%]

19.(+4) Anti-Hero - 97pts [+0%] *WOC:53* (via:

@talkofthecharts

 

lol it's not even closeeeeeee, shocked. 

[omrimayo]

75 points ahead of number 2!

[suburbannature]

It's a great song, but why the resurgence in October

[naval23]

2 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

It's a great song, but why the resurgence in October

To be fair it was going to go #1 regardless but the discounts and multiple remixes have it that mega boost to be 70pts ahead.

 

 

[suburbannature]

1 minute ago, naval23 said:

To be fair it was going to go #1 regardless but the discounts and multiple remixes have it that mega boost to be 70pts ahead.

 

 

I'm just surprised it hasn't fallen off post-summer months. 

[slw84]

It was actually clever and smart to wait until after in the tracking week because the beginning of the next (current tracking week benefits) which explains the increase in points for next week's chart.

 

The fact that she is going to replace herself too.

[Sailor Moon]

Now drop the mv for to stay for 16 weeks

[KOMH]

1 hour ago, naval23 said:

To be fair it was going to go #1 regardless but the discounts and multiple remixes have it that mega boost to be 70pts ahead.

 

 

Worth noting the song would've gone #1 without any of its sales points.

 

[JawBreaker]

2 hours ago, naval23 said:

To be fair it was going to go #1 regardless but the discounts and multiple remixes have it that mega boost to be 70pts ahead.

 

 

Its just 1 remix and a live version not multiple remixes.

 

 

 

OT: these early predictions are always a bit too inflated. Its gonna fall in points but yeah the no.1 is hers again eitherway 

Edited October 21, 2023 by JawBreaker

[JawBreaker]

2 hours ago, suburbannature said:

I'm just surprised it hasn't fallen off post-summer months. 

It didnt blow up because it was summer it just so happened she was on tour during that time but even if it were winter it wouldve smashed cuz of the tour giving it a new life. 

Next week its gonna get another boost thanx to 1989 tv then after that when she goes back on tour in Brazil and Argentina its gonna get another boost. 

I can honestly see it stay pretty stable around the 2-3m+ streams region the whole of next year thanx to the tour. 

[suburbannature]

17 minutes ago, JawBreaker said:

It didnt blow up because it was summer it just so happened she was on tour during that time but even if it were winter it wouldve smashed cuz of the tour giving it a new life. 

Next week its gonna get another boost thanx to 1989 tv then after that when she goes back on tour in Brazil and Argentina its gonna get another boost. 

I can honestly see it stay pretty stable around the 2-3m+ streams region the whole of next year thanx to the tour. 

Doesn't it always get a boost during summer?

[JawBreaker]

1 hour ago, suburbannature said:

Doesn't it always get a boost during summer?

Nah I dont remember it having any significant resurgence every summer. Last year it only got a resurgence thanx to that Amazon show but no it wasnt because of it being summer. 

Only August gets a yearly resurgence thanx to its name and even then it still does crazy numbers after August ends. It's still doing 1.8m streams and its October 

Edited October 21, 2023 by JawBreaker

[pride4jc1222]

7 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

Who knows. Not sure if Billboard knows

 

But recently they have let a lot of song reenter, especially after being pushed out by christmas or album bombs. 

But idk about Anti-Hero being top 25 again in 3 weeks. Seems like a lot 

We'll know more about this soon with Calm Down. If CD does not return to the charts this week or next week, then don't expect Anti-Hero to return from recurrency once it falls off.

Edited October 22, 2023 by pride4jc1222

[FolkLover1989]

9 hours ago, naval23 said:

To be fair it was going to go #1 regardless but the discounts and multiple remixes have it that mega boost to be 70pts ahead.

 

 

Multiple remixes and it's just 1

Also discount is over since Friday

[pride4jc1222]

Early look - Canada: 

lol at Last Night still being in the Top 5.

[Ger]

"greedy" slaying in Canada @Raphy23  

[pride4jc1222]

 

[Mr. Duff]

CS to be a multi-week #1 for both US and Canada!

[Theluckyone]

Smash summer! Happy it’s a multi week #1 for taytay. 

[Maroonx]

Taylor will likely spend another 2-3 weeks atop... 1989 TV better watch it x

[Michael196]

 

 

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Next year I see it smashing in Europe too when she tours. Can quite end up as her biggest single there in long run