C-Amber Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 4 hours ago, simmnfierzig said: He is extremely local 33 minutes ago, Armani? said: He's definitely local London is his 29th Top city. Less than 40k city Listeners in every other country outside of Australia, Canada, US and UK/Ireland He's just so huge in the US, that Australia, Canada and a little of Britains can keep him high on Global charts 6 minutes ago, John Slayne said: are these supposed to be impressive and show his global power? even Madame X charted in more countries, please Where did I say he's global? Or yall can't read? You telling me he's local, which means he's only known locally on his home country USA. But by charts and numbers he isn't, he's good in Canada and Australia (he got almost 200M views on YouTube on the past months even when he's not YouTube artist). Last Night Spotify: #10 Canada #11 Australia #19 United States #22 New Zealand #40 Ireland #85 Worldwide #124 Norway #142 United Kingdom #164 Sweden He released this song on January this year, still doing pretty well considering he's only "local" Album: One Thing At A Time Spotify: #1 Canada #2 Australia #2 United States #9 New Zealand #19 Worldwide #26 Ireland #42 Norway #51 Sweden #62 United Kingdom #187 South Africa OH the album as well. Again, he's not global superstar, but he's definitely not local. 1
Armani? Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, C-Amber said: Where did I say he's global? Or yall can't read? You telling me he's local, which means he's only known locally on his home country USA. But by charts and numbers he isn't, he's good in Canada and Australia (he got almost 200M views on YouTube on the past months even when he's not YouTube artist). Last Night Spotify: #10 Canada #11 Australia #19 United States #22 New Zealand #40 Ireland #85 Worldwide #124 Norway #142 United Kingdom #164 Sweden He released this song on January this year, still doing pretty well considering he's only "local" Album: One Thing At A Time Spotify: #1 Canada #2 Australia #2 United States #9 New Zealand #19 Worldwide #26 Ireland #42 Norway #51 Sweden #62 United Kingdom #187 South Africa OH the album as well. Again, he's not global superstar, but he's definitely not local. That's still relatively local. Majority of his streams come from the US. 1
C-Amber Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Armani? said: That's still relatively local. Majority of his streams come from the US. Local: relating or restricted to a particular area or one's neighbourhood. He's top tier in USA. But pretty well in Canada & Australia. If he has passports and live in these three countries then yes I guess he's local, if not then he's not local.
pride4jc1222 Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Updated chart runs for this week's top 10: (1) Doja Cat - "Paint The Town Red" (9 weeks) 15 - 15 - 5 - 3 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - (2) SZA - "Snooze" (43 weeks) 29 - 61 - 74 - 53 - 48 - 32 - 31 - 35 - 34 - 33 - 33 - 32 - 46 - 35 - 36 - 37 - 35 - 34 - 39 - 38 - 34 - 31 - 29 - 28 - 28 - 19 - 15 - 13 - 11 - 13 - 12 - 12 - 14 - 15 - 10 - 12 - 11 - 7 - 7 - 8 - 3 - 2 - 2 - (3) Taylor Swift - "Cruel Summer" (22 weeks) 29 - 71 - off - 49 - 45 - 47 - 39 - 18 - 13 - 7 - 9 - 8 - 6 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 4 - 3 - (4) Luke Combs - "Fast Car" (28 weeks) 44 - 32 - 23 - 19 - 14 - 14 - 11 - 9 - 10 - 8 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 4 - (5) Jung Kook ft. Jack Harlow - "3D" (1 week) 5 - (6) Zach Bryan ft. Kacey Musgraves - "I Remember Everything" (6 weeks) 1 - 2 - 3 - 5 - 5 - 6 - (7) Morgan Wallen - "Last Night" (36 weeks) 27 - 3 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 1- 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 6 - 7 - (8) Gunna - "Fukumean" (16 weeks) 16 - 12 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 4 - 7 - 5 - 7 - 7 - 10 - 8 - 9 - 9 - 8 - 8 - (9) Olivia Rodrigo - "Vampire" (14 weeks) 1 - 3 - 7 - 10 - 9 - 6 - 6 - 8 - 12 - 9 - 1 - 7 - 7 - 9 - (10) Rema & Selena Gomez - "Calm Down" (57 weeks) 91 - 92 - 88 - 80 - 75 - 74 - 89 - 86 - 88 - 88 - 82 - 82 - 87 - 87 - 83 - 83 - 79 - 46 - 38 - 35 - 28 - 26 - 27 - 25 - 19 - 15 - 19 - 8 - 8 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 3 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 5 - 6 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 11 - 10 - 12 - 11 - 9 - 10 1
John Slayne Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, C-Amber said: Where did I say he's global? Or yall can't read? You telling me he's local, which means he's only known locally on his home country USA. But by charts and numbers he isn't, he's good in Canada and Australia (he got almost 200M views on YouTube on the past months even when he's not YouTube artist). Last Night Spotify: #10 Canada #11 Australia #19 United States #22 New Zealand #40 Ireland #85 Worldwide #124 Norway #142 United Kingdom #164 Sweden He released this song on January this year, still doing pretty well considering he's only "local" Album: One Thing At A Time Spotify: #1 Canada #2 Australia #2 United States #9 New Zealand #19 Worldwide #26 Ireland #42 Norway #51 Sweden #62 United Kingdom #187 South Africa OH the album as well. Again, he's not global superstar, but he's definitely not local. stop being obtuse. you know what local and global means. just because he's had some success outside of the US doesn't mean we shouldn't call him local, especially since he can't even chart outside of anglosphere, let alone smash there. Girls Aloud also charted in multiple countries but are widely recognised as local to the UK because that's where the bulk of their success comes from. anyway, this whole discussion started because someone said he's the biggest artist right now, which he isn't since he's a non-factor WW and him charting in only 3 countries doesn't change that. 4
C-Amber Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, John Slayne said: stop being obtuse. you know what local and global means. just because he's had some success outside of the US doesn't mean we shouldn't call him local, especially since he can't even chart outside of anglosphere, let alone smash there. Girls Aloud also charted in multiple countries but are widely recognised as local to the UK because that's where the bulk of their success comes from. anyway, this whole discussion started because someone said he's the biggest artist right now, which he isn't since he's a non-factor WW and him charting in only 3 countries doesn't change that. obtuse? Really? Resulting to insulting when nobody agrees with you, typical. You went from he's local only known in USA, to local but known in some other counties to yes local but only in anglosphere countries Go read dictionary of the word before using it. 1 5
John Slayne Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, C-Amber said: obtuse? Really? Resulting to insulting when nobody agrees with you, typical. You went from he's local only known in USA, to local but known in some other counties to yes local but only in anglosphere countries Go read dictionary of the word before using it. literally everyone agrees with me, you're the only who thinks he's not local i mean we can make a thread with a poll and see what people think if you want x 2
C-Amber Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, John Slayne said: literally everyone agrees with me, you're the only who thinks he's not local i mean we can make a thread with a poll and see what people think if you want x Everyone agreeing with you doesn't mean your right looooool Local: relating or restricted to a particular area or one's neighbourhood. The man is great in USA, but also pretty good in Canada & Australia. These are 3 countries in 2 continents, his last album charted #1 in Canada, Australia & New Zealand which lately the more global artist Doja Cat couldn't even reach that with her album Scarlet (she actual never had #1 in these countries from her 4 albums, only Planet Her reach #1 in NZ) and mind you she had literally global hit supporting her album. I'm not even a fan of the Morgan guy, never enjoyed his music, but he's far from local, he's decent and have good solid fan base in at least 3-4 major countries. 1 1
John Slayne Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, C-Amber said: Everyone agreeing with you doesn't mean your right looooool Local: relating or restricted to a particular area or one's neighbourhood. The man is great in USA, but also pretty good in Canada & Australia. These are 3 countries in 2 continents, his last album charted #1 in Canada, Australia & New Zealand which lately the more global artist Doja Cat couldn't even reach that with her album Scarlet (she actual never had #1 in these countries from her 4 albums, only Planet Her reach #1 in NZ) and mind you she had literally global hit supporting her album. I'm not even a fan of the Morgan guy, never enjoyed his music, but he's far from local, he's decent and have good solid fan base in at least 3-4 major countries. so you're bringing in your definition of local and then calling everyone wrong because? weird behaviour + waste of time. obviously in stan language local doesn't mean someone only sells in their neighbourhood by that definition nobody would be local and the word would lose its meaning in our conversations so you can take your merriam webster definition and gaslight somewhere else. can't believe you're actually bringing Doja into this when she's obviously A LOT bigger than Morgan WW and it's not close at all lmao. she has multiple WW smash hits like i said, we can get a thread going and let ATRL decide, but I think the receipts above are obvious. you just want to argue semantics 3
C-Amber Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, John Slayne said: so you're bringing in your definition of local and then calling everyone wrong because? weird behaviour + waste of time. obviously in stan language local doesn't mean someone only sells in their neighbourhood by that definition nobody would be local and the word would lose its meaning in our conversations so you can take your merriam webster definition and gaslight somewhere else. can't believe you're actually bringing Doja into this when she's obviously A LOT bigger than Morgan WW and it's not close at all lmao. she has multiple WW smash hits like i said, we can get a thread going and let ATRL decide, but I think the receipts above are obvious. you just want to argue semantics Yall just want to call him "local" because you hate him and how's doing actual pretty amazing after an entire nation tried to cancel him lol local seems pretty amazing if this is what it is. And Doja isn't far away, the only reason she got those hits is because of TikTok antics and her crazy current ass trying to act edgy with satanic ****, her album flopped hard, she's as well far from global and actually just decent/good as single TikTok artists. 1 1 1 1
family.guy123 Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Huge numbers in 4 countries that: - are part of the top 10 global markets - span 3 continents - are some of the most diverse in the world - have multiple different official languages = local sure. I understand all too well how insomnia can severely impact one’s life , so if agreeing with nonsense will help you sleep better, I’ll throw you that bone 1
Michael196 Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 10 hours ago, family.guy123 said: Huge numbers in 4 countries that: - are part of the top 10 global markets - span 3 continents - are some of the most diverse in the world - have multiple different official languages = local sure. I understand all too well how insomnia can severely impact one’s life , so if agreeing with nonsense will help you sleep better, I’ll throw you that bone 1
HappierJealousy Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, C-Amber said: Yall just want to call him "local" because you hate him and how's doing actual pretty amazing after an entire nation tried to cancel him lol local seems pretty amazing if this is what it is. And Doja isn't far away, the only reason she got those hits is because of TikTok antics and her crazy current ass trying to act edgy with satanic ****, her album flopped hard, she's as well far from global and actually just decent/good as single TikTok artists. Please, you need to calm down. Taylor was much more global than him when she was a country artist (she was big in everywhere excluding mainland Europe and Latin America) and still being called Local here. If Taylor was local in 2010 then Morgan is local in 2023, let’s just face the truth sweetie Edited October 11, 2023 by HappierJealousy
Axelios Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 17 hours ago, John Slayne said: are these supposed to be impressive and show his global power? even Madame X charted in more countries, please Madame X was not local to anything. It was a very frontloaded and fanbase driven everywhere around the world.
Mr. Duff Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Why are we being so technical at the word local? I love Last Night, not much of a fan of Morgan but he has great songs in the new album. But I would consider him local. And that's not bad. Taylor was considered local most of her career (she isn't though as she has a bigger reach than Morgan, like ever) but that's because her success is mostly US-centered. during her first few eras, same with Morgan now. I agree with the comparison about Girls Aloud (or even Little Mix) that they are local in the UK, and that's okay. They found their biggest base and focused on that. Good job to them (and Morgan), not everybody can be global.
Mr. Duff Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Didn't realize Usher is already top 30 Could he go top 10? I'd be super happy with a top 20 though, this is massive for him! And the song is great. 1
Green Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Being local and selling 4 or 5 million albums in one country is better than being global and selling 500k around the world I don't understand what's so bad about being local, especially for a country artist (most of them are local with the exception of Shania and Taylor) I remember ATRL used that word to drag Taylor Swift when she was country and to drag Beyoncé before Sasha Fierce (as if she didn't was a global superstar since her Destiny's Child days) 3
B-Luke Posted October 11, 2023 Author Posted October 11, 2023 I‘d argue Morgan is in the same ballpark as Garth Brooks in terms of globalness, maybe a tad bit more local as Brooks had a few albums chart in countries outside of the Anglosphere
MusicLoverDude Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 A fight over Morgan Wallen being local Y'all need to touch grass. It ain't that serious
Mastamaind Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 2:28 PM, Ger-55 said: 16 weeks is beyond impressive. Peso Pluma's longevity is actually really good. Right? Star power is clearly showing and how not if the album is solid AF.
WEEKND Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Every time the name “madame X” comes up I cackle such a kii. how does one even come up with that as an album title lmaoooo
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