John Slayne Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Is Midnights still in the top 10 in other territories ? idk but Morgan is literally non-factor outside the US. even Kim Petras or Charli XCX can actually chart in international markets, Morgan can't. 1
Virtual_Insanity Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, John Slayne said: idk but Morgan is literally non-factor outside the US. even Kim Petras or Charli XCX can actually chart in international markets, Morgan can't. Maybe he will go pop with his next album and crossover ? His albums did well in Australia also randomly. Edited October 8, 2023 by Virtual_Insanity
Axelios Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Is Midnights still in the top 10 in other territories ? #3 in Ireland #5 in Australia #6 in New Zealand #7 in Portugual #9 in UK #9 in Canada It's also top 20 in Belgium (Flanders), Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Austria and probably many others despite being released a year ago while Morgan Wallen barely charted in most countries Edited October 8, 2023 by Axelios 6
Steve Johnson Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Punky Rooster said: Why is Morgan Wallen not called the biggest musician currently? He seems to be ruling the charts more so than Taylor. I don’t know his music but he must be massive! He’ll still finish behind Taylor on IFPI global artist chart. Or check Artist 100 chart, Taylor is #1 for most of the year. And Taylor has 7 albums in top 20. Edited October 8, 2023 by Steve Johnson
Itsaliability Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Punky Rooster said: Why is Morgan Wallen not called the biggest musician currently? He seems to be ruling the charts more so than Taylor. I don’t know his music but he must be massive! She's carrying an entire catalogue consisting of 10 albums on her back right now, all of them top 40. While also giving him a run for his money, with 2, 3 or sometimes even 4 albums in the top 10. If anything this speaks volumes to her immense power. Let's not even get into the globalness aspect of it.
Peak Now Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Maybe he will go pop with his next album and crossover ? His albums did well in Australia also randomly. Australia has always been friendly to country. Think Keith Urban.
Katamari Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 49 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Well people in the Drake thread are calling 450k a flop/ a massive bomb etc ? Well that’s just delusion on their part
ontherocks Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, John Slayne said: idk but Morgan is literally non-factor outside the US. even Kim Petras or Charli XCX can actually chart in international markets, Morgan can't. This ain't completly true though. His album debuted at #1 in Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The album also went Top20 in Norway and #40 in the UK. This information can be easily looked up. Why even push him in markets where he would eventually chart, but the label would end up losing money, just to prove a point? An artist like Kim Petras can't afford that sort of luxury, cause she ain't big anywhere in the world. 3
John Slayne Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, ontherocks said: This ain't completly true though. His album debuted at #1 in Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The album also went Top20 in Norway and #40 in the UK. This information can be easily looked up. Why even push him in markets where he would eventually chart, but the label would end up losing money, just to prove a point? An artist like Kim Petras can't afford that sort of luxury, cause she ain't big anywhere in the world. i exaggerated a bit with the kim petras example because it was a fun drag, but the point still stands. an average mpg can easily outsell morgan and outchart morgan ww, so he shouldn't be referred to as the biggest artist right now. 1
QueenofCopyPaste Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: underwhelming numbers for GUTS tbh Given there's no clear single rn, its doing good
family.guy123 Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Punky Rooster said: Why is Morgan Wallen not called the biggest musician currently? He seems to be ruling the charts more so than Taylor. I don’t know his music but he must be massive! He is, amongst people paying attention
Steve Johnson Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: He is, amongst people paying attention He is not. this is just US only. Globally there is no competition at all.
family.guy123 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Steve Johnson said: He is not. this is just US only. Globally there is no competition at all. These accounts just make **** up. I’ve clocked them in the past 1 1 4
Klein Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, family.guy123 said: These accounts just make **** up. I’ve clocked them in the past They are reporting Billboard. These are not made-up numbers. https://www.billboard.com/pro/taylor-swift-nfl-concert-film-economic-influence/ "Swift's prowess as a recording artist and songwriter is well known. As the most popular artist in the United States across several consumption metrics, she has 11.7 million equivalent album units this year through Sept. 21 — about 70% more than the No. 2 artist, Morgan Wallen, according to Luminate. (EAUs convert streams and track sales into album units.)" Edited October 9, 2023 by Klein 1
Popboi. Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, Klein said: They are reporting Billboard. These are not made-up numbers. https://www.billboard.com/pro/taylor-swift-nfl-concert-film-economic-influence/ "Swift's prowess as a recording artist and songwriter is well known. As the most popular artist in the United States across several consumption metrics, she has 11.7 million equivalent album units this year through Sept. 21 — about 70% more than the No. 2 artist, Morgan Wallen, according to Luminate. (EAUs convert streams and track sales into album units.)" So much for "clocked them in the past" 6
skyandground Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 7 hours ago, John Slayne said: idk but Morgan is literally non-factor outside the US. even Kim Petras or Charli XCX can actually chart in international markets, Morgan can't. There's a country where OTAAT has collected more #1 weeks (22 weeks) than than US (16 weeks)
Klein Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, Popboi. said: So much for "clocked them in the past" And let's not even start talking about touring power
TOKYO. Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 8 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Well people in the Drake thread are calling 450k a flop/ a massive bomb etc ? Because olivia isnt to by straights.. drake has more demographic.. female pop artists arent something to straights 1
spree Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 well Morgan has like 3 albums, Taylor has over a dozen. He's doing great, and he'll definitely catch up eventually. Taylor just has more of a catalog to stream.
simmnfierzig Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, spree said: well Morgan has like 3 albums, Taylor has over a dozen. He's doing great, and he'll definitely catch up eventually. Taylor just has more of a catalog to stream. "definitely" is a very strong word. As almost everyone fades after a 3,4,5 smash albums
Lemon Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, spree said: well Morgan has like 3 albums, Taylor has over a dozen. He's doing great, and he'll definitely catch up eventually. Taylor just has more of a catalog to stream. How can we “definitely” know that he will “catch up”? First, we will have to know how will he fare with his future albums and if he is able to reach to the 10th at all, etc.
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