dumbsparce Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 So much for him being over. He's doing everyone a favor by putting out garbage.
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Considering it seems like GP at large is hailing this as his worst album to date, I consider this impressive as hell numbers. 1
Relampago. Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 I will say he maintains a very impressive amount of success considering how horrible his releases have been consecutively 1
KOMH Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Looks like Taylor will have the top 2 biggest debuts of 2023
mypaintoyou Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Rico Shameless v2 said: First of all his last album was Honestly, Nevermind which opened with 204,000 copies. So this is a major increase. Idk what you mean by proper. Also Evermore opened with 500,000 less than Folklore. Is Taylor over / a bomb? No but then she sold 1.5 million opening with her followed up studio album
BnPac Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 I don't know how he can have the 23 first songs on AM, more than 100M first day on Spotify after the underwhelming lead single and his own fans not loving his last materials too much and people still think he's done. OT : Nice numbers.
umich Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 I mean, who else is pulling numbers like this 14+ years into their career besides Taylor (on a much higher scale obviously) and Beyoncé?
Yuanyu Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 17 hours ago, umich said: I mean, who else is pulling numbers like this 14+ years into their career besides Taylor (on a much higher scale obviously) and Beyoncé? I don't know if you're kidding or you really have no idea about the music market, but here are some examples of rappers Eminem relased the Marshal Mathers LP II (792K first week in a music market much more deteriorated than the current one) 14 years into his mainstream carrer and Kamikaze (434K first week) 19 years into his carrer Lil Wayne relased Tha Carter V 19 years into his carrer (480k first week) Jay z relased the Bluprint 3 14 years into his carrer (476K first week)13 years into his carrer and Magna Carta Holy Grail (528K first week in a music market much more deteriorated than the current one)17 years into his carrer Kanye West relase Donda 17 years into his carrer (309K first week -5 days -)
B-Luke Posted October 9, 2023 Author Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yuanyu said: I don't know if you're kidding or you really have no idea about the music market, but here are some examples of rappers Eminem relased the Marshal Mathers LP II (792K first week in a music market much more deteriorated than the current one) 14 years into his mainstream carrer and Kamikaze (434K first week) 19 years into his carrer Lil Wayne relased Tha Carter V 19 years into his carrer (480k first week) Jay z relased the Bluprint 3 14 years into his carrer (476K first week)13 years into his carrer and Magna Carta Holy Grail (528K first week in a music market much more deteriorated than the current one)17 years into his carrer Kanye West relase Donda 17 years into his carrer (309K first week -5 days -) All of these figures (minus Donda) are at least 5 years old. We‘re in a different sales/units climate, 450k in 2023 is like 800k in 2013 outside of Taylor (and Drake to a lesser degree), absolutely nobody is doing it. 6 1
simmnfierzig Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Bigger than I expected. Annoying. Hopefully it will fade very fast 1 1 1
Yuanyu Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, B-Luke said: All of these figures (minus Donda) are at least 5 years old. We‘re in a different sales/units climate, 450k in 2023 is like 800k in 2013 outside of Taylor (and Drake to a lesser degree), absolutely nobody is doing it. In 2013 the best-selling album was Justin Timberlake's the 20/20 experience with 2.4M, in fact only 13 albums surpassed 1 million copies. As of October 6, 2023 the best selling album has 4.6M copies and there are 14 albums with more than 1M copies. If you think Drake 13 years into his career is bigger than Eminem or Jay Z is up to you, I really don't think so. As a fun fact Eminem's album released in November 2013 ended up being #2 in US and #2 worldwide, I guess Drake will have no problem beating those numbers since only he and Taylor are able to reach numbers like that, the competition will simply be 1989 2
BnPac Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Those are good numbers, no matter how you slice it. A better angle of "attack" would be the 2nd week drop. The album might do less than 400K though if the streams keep dropping
By the Water Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 51st consecutive week in the top 10 for Midnights
ALA Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Too bad SM has been doing their groups dirty and not releasing the main version of their albums on release week in US
UnusualBoy Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Not Morgan barely dropping, hate it here...
BnPac Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) On 10/9/2023 at 9:59 AM, B-Luke said: All of these figures (minus Donda) are at least 5 years old. We‘re in a different sales/units climate, 450k in 2023 is like 800k in 2013 outside of Taylor (and Drake to a lesser degree), absolutely nobody is doing it. I think some rappers also proved incredible longevity (Lil Wayne, Em, Jay) and I think pure-sales-driven charts were more competitive tbh but I do agree that Drake's longevity deserves to be applauded. 400k is great. Edited October 11, 2023 by BnPac
Yuanyu Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, BnPac said: I think some rappers also proved incredible longevity (Lil Wayne, Em, Jay) and I think pure-sales-driven charts were more competitive tbh but I do agree that Drake's longevity deserves to be applauded. 400k is great. I don't think anyone here has doubted Drake's longevity (it would be absurd), what I have doubted is that he is the first and only one (besides taylor), which is what the initial message implied.
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