artist stats 'Scarlet' debut week on Spotify: 129.7M streams

[Dula Peep]

Honestly the spider album cover is probably a huge turnoff for a lot of people

[professor2000]

3 minutes ago, Dula Peep said:

Honestly the spider album cover is probably a huge turnoff for a lot of people

Lol…ngl thought the same.  
 

I really do think there was a combo of too many jarring changes (new sound, anti-fan narrative, scary visuals….including album cover, etc).  
 

I think a lot of this could’ve been remedied with a promo run and some interviews explaining her choices.  But nah…we can never get that with her, lol.  

Album still sounds good though…either way.  Can’t deny her that.   

[lef]

Lmao so people were convinced that she's over after the shenanigans with her fans, then PTTR randomly smashed and everyone took it back and now she's a flop again  
It's time to admit that she probably was just lucky with PTTR and the public isn't here for her.

[Communion]

Is there even a list of recent debuts by *female* rap  albums to compare this too? 

People keep referencing only Traumazine, but this could end up doing better numbers. 

 

And things like this make it seem like people are being disingenuous about how well *female* *rap* albums actually do:

Edited September 23, 2023 by Communion

[Bethenny Frankel]

oof...I guess it pays not to hate your own fans lol

 

[ChrisTheLoner]

6 hours ago, rebeltwat said:

She knew exactly what she was doing releasing this type of album, and I don't even mean that in a shady way. I love Scarlet. She could easily serve pop hits if she wanted to. Arts not charts 

Exactly this album is amazing whether it smashes or not 

 

ot: She really has the ODHs riled up and brought out of the woodworks with this 

I hope it has legs just to prove yall wrong 

[Bey_Rihstan]

3 hours ago, Communion said:

Is there even a list of recent debuts by *female* rap  albums to compare this too? 

People keep referencing only Traumazine, but this could end up doing better numbers. 

 

And things like this make it seem like people are being disingenuous about how well *female* *rap* albums actually do:

To be fair.. Traumazine had light promo, no smash hits, was announced the same day of release & Doja is bigger than Megan. Doja really should be clearing her with Ease 

[Communion]

9 minutes ago, Bey_Rihstan said:

To be fair.. Traumazine had light promo, no smash hits, was announced the same day of release & Doja is bigger than Megan. Doja really should be clearing her with Ease 

Oh, I wouldn't disagree otherwise, though I think there's a conversation about Megan building up a lane and really working it versus Doja in shakier territory being a Top 40 pop radio girl and diverting randomly to a new sound. Having tons more hits at CHR may mean nothing if CHR listeners may want nothing to do with this album.

 

But then the other reality is also that Megan and Doja are, at a glance, much more successful themselves than most other rap girls who aren't Cardi or Nicki. Like how much did Latto's album do first week? Coi's album missed the Top 100, no? Even Ice Spice's rerelease of her EP missed the Top 10, right?

 

That's why I asked what actual female rap albums have peaked where with what numbers, cause it seems like, even with the much smaller numbers, Scarlet may come out on top for releases within the last 3-4 years, and that some of this flop talk comes off as pop stans who don't like the new material being disingenuous. 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Communion

[Anti-Hero]

12 hours ago, burninredhot said:

I'm surprised to see Attention didn't even re enter tho it's the lead single

PTTR is the lead. Attention is a promo single

[Into The Void]

26m is good congrats 

[Gaia]

5 hours ago, Communion said:

Is there even a list of recent debuts by *female* rap  albums to compare this too? 

People keep referencing only Traumazine, but this could end up doing better numbers. 

 

And things like this make it seem like people are being disingenuous about how well *female* *rap* albums actually do:

Well… they don’t do well. The last legitimate female rap album to be popular with GP was IOP. Doja leans more into pop than rap in HP and PH. 
 

The issue is female rappers really only get big rapping about their bodies, money, etc. 
 

But then people complain their music has no depth. 

[Cryptique]

Another Miley/Sam situation.. 1 BIG UNESCAPABLE SMASH but mehhh/filler tracks

 

I think Doja will serve better longevity tho.. AGORA HILLS has the potential

[Starkboy]

2nd day

WW Spotify

#1 Paint The Town Red - 8,564,151 (-582k)
#34 +1 Agora Hills - 2,313,874 (-18k)
#184 -78 Demons - 1,168,573 (-304k)

 

 

USA Spotify

#1 Paint The Town Red - 2,110,851 (-256k)
#10 +6 Agora Hills - 1,005,357 (+28k)

#49 -6 Demons - 511,250 (-133k) 
#68 -14 Gun - 452,631 (-154k) 

#75 -33 Wet ****na - 446,022 (-203k)

#124 -59 Ouchies - 370,294 (-170k)

#136 -43 Go Off - 358,610 (-107k)

#138 -74 **** The Girls (FTG) - 354,940 (-186k)

#169 -27 Can't Wait - 332,277 (-73k)

#187 -101 97 - 318,212 (-165k)

#197 -27 Attention - 311,431 (-61k)

[LookinAssHittas]

18 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

2nd day

WW Spotify

#1 Paint The Town Red - 8,564,151 (-582k)
#34 +1 Agora Hills - 2,313,874 (-18k)
#184 -78 Demons - 1,168,573 (-304k)

 

 

USA Spotify

#1 Paint The Town Red - 2,110,851 (-256k)
#10 +6 Agora Hills - 1,005,357 (+28k)

#49 -6 Demons - 644,530
#68 -14 Gun - 452,631 (-154k) 

#75 -33 Wet ****na - 446,022 (-203k)

#124 -59 Ouchies - 370,294 (-170k)

#136 -43 Go Off - 358,610 (-107k)

#138 -74 **** The Girls (FTG) - 354,940 (-186k)

#169 -27 Can't Wait - 332,277 (-73k)

#187 -101 97 - 318,212 (-165k)

#197 -27 Attention - 311,431 (-61k)

Agora Hills rising 

 

They should make a radio edit without the talking parts and send it to radio once “Paint the Town Red” is done smashing

[Pendulum]

y'all this is the humiliation step of the inauguration ritual  

 

/jk

[masochizm]

40 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

2nd day

WW Spotify

#1 Paint The Town Red - 8,564,151 (-582k)
#34 +1 Agora Hills - 2,313,874 (-18k)
#184 -78 Demons - 1,168,573 (-304k)

 

 

USA Spotify

#1 Paint The Town Red - 2,110,851 (-256k)
#10 +6 Agora Hills - 1,005,357 (+28k)

#49 -6 Demons - 644,530
#68 -14 Gun - 452,631 (-154k) 

#75 -33 Wet ****na - 446,022 (-203k)

#124 -59 Ouchies - 370,294 (-170k)

#136 -43 Go Off - 358,610 (-107k)

#138 -74 **** The Girls (FTG) - 354,940 (-186k)

#169 -27 Can't Wait - 332,277 (-73k)

#187 -101 97 - 318,212 (-165k)

#197 -27 Attention - 311,431 (-61k)

AGORA SMASHA!!!

[Steve Johnson]

People really have zero interest in her album tracks. 

[HEAVYONIT]

Surprised at AH when everything else is dropping pretty hard. This is further proof that the demand for Doja is there but this album just isn’t connecting with the GP.

[Hot Volcano]

3 minutes ago, Black Jesus said:

Surprised at AH when everything else is dropping pretty hard. This is further proof that the demand for Doja is there but this album just isn’t connecting with the GP.

This doesn't make any sense. If there was a demand, the GP would've streamed her album the first day. Them dropping it after the first day would've meant they did not connect. 

 

She is simply a singles artist, there is no demand.

[Cain]

3 tracks on Spotify global (close to 2) is… yeah

[Cryptique]

4 hours ago, Cryptique said:

Another Miley/Sam situation.. 1 BIG UNESCAPABLE SMASH but mehhh/filler tracks

 

I think Doja will serve better longevity tho.. AGORA HILLS has the potential

 

49 minutes ago, Starkboy said:

2nd day

WW Spotify

#1 Paint The Town Red - 8,564,151 (-582k)
#34 +1 Agora Hills - 2,313,874 (-18k)
#184 -78 Demons - 1,168,573 (-304k)

 

 

USA Spotify

#1 Paint The Town Red - 2,110,851 (-256k)
#10 +6 Agora Hills - 1,005,357 (+28k)

#49 -6 Demons - 644,530
#68 -14 Gun - 452,631 (-154k) 

#75 -33 Wet ****na - 446,022 (-203k)

#124 -59 Ouchies - 370,294 (-170k)

#136 -43 Go Off - 358,610 (-107k)

#138 -74 **** The Girls (FTG) - 354,940 (-186k)

#169 -27 Can't Wait - 332,277 (-73k)

#187 -101 97 - 318,212 (-165k)

#197 -27 Attention - 311,431 (-61k)

I told y'all.. AGORA HILLS and obviously PTTR will save this era

 

Other than that.. a DISAPPOINTENT after PLANET HER

[littlepotter]

It doesn't make sense. She had like 10 hits in the past few years

[D.Va]

10 hours ago, Communion said:

Is there even a list of recent debuts by *female* rap  albums to compare this too? 

People keep referencing only Traumazine, but this could end up doing better numbers. 

 

And things like this make it seem like people are being disingenuous about how well *female* *rap* albums actually do:

I am so confused at this tweet considering I saw many other saying that Planet HER still holds the record ? 

Why are we saying it's a flop if the album managed to snatch this record ? 

[krustysalt]

2 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

It doesn't make sense. She had like 10 hits in the past few years

It does make sense to me. Hits does not equal demand. If we look at the other stats, Scarlet tour has not sold out yet when it was announced 3 months ago despite only having 22 shows, in comparison, Olivia who has 77 shows and with bigger capacities, the tour is already 99% sold out on the pre sale alone.

 

Doja does not have a demand and it reflects on her album performance. She got lucky tiktok is latching on her tiktok songs

[HEAVYONIT]

24 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

This doesn't make any sense. If there was a demand, the GP would've streamed her album the first day. Them dropping it after the first day would've meant they did not connect. 

 

She is simply a singles artist, there is no demand.

No, there IS a demand for her to make GOOD music that the GP actually wants. This is evident with PTTR rising to #1 on Spotify and AH rising in its 2nd day.  She’s dropping music her core fan base isn’t into and the GP isn’t into either. That’s why the album is dropping. PTTR and AH are the songs that sound most like pre-Scarlet Doja. The demand for her to make PH/HP style music is clearly there. 
 

And she has literally never been an albums artist. PH’s numbers were carried by the massive hits. Anyone who follows the charts knows that. 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Black Jesus