artist stats 'GUTS' 7th day: 33.2M (-3.8%) | total debut week: +286M

[What_A_Mess]

Music not the bling 

quality over quantity 

[Billionaire]

Can we get a breakdown of how well it did in major countries? I'm interested to see if my suspicions are correct and if this is actually shaping up to be more local compared to SOUR

 

Fantastic numbers nonetheless though especially since this doesn't exactly have a G4U 13m+ daily sized smash  Was actually a bit concerned seeing how Swifties dropped her for the most part (as you can clearly see in this thread ) but she seems to be thriving without them. Time to make AAB the next single 

[Steve Johnson]

2 minutes ago, Billionaire said:

Can we get a breakdown of how well it did in major countries?

This thread will help ya. 

 

[Ms. Togekiss]

These are solid numbers. Sour’s success was characterized by its insane longevity so we’ll see how this one holds

[Ampersand13]

Super impressive, regardless of what anyone says  

 

Love seeing multiple women winning this year in tandem from Olivia, Beyoncé, SZA, Taylor, and more. Let’s celebrate that 

[Bears01]

These are good numbers, y’all really need to chil 

[FolkLover1989]

12 minutes ago, Billionaire said:

Can we get a breakdown of how well it did in major countries? I'm interested to see if my suspicions are correct and if this is actually shaping up to be more local compared to SOUR

 

Fantastic numbers nonetheless though especially since this doesn't exactly have a G4U 13m+ daily sized smash  Was actually a bit concerned seeing how Swifties dropped her for the most part (as you can clearly see in this thread ) but she seems to be thriving without them. Time to make AAB the next single 

Most Swifties still support hee outside of stan twitter 

Her fanbase literally overlaps like 90% with Taylor 

[Billionaire]

Hm so she's seem to lost a bit of support mostly in Latam & Asia  Interesting considering SEA especially were one of her biggest markets during her debut, but understandable considering this album's sound is pretty different 

 

Interested to see if she'll pull a HTE and manage to go #1 in countries that are notoriously hard to crack for MPGs (France Germany Italy etc). She's definitely one of the more interesting success stories from the past few years for sure. 

Edited September 9, 2023 by Billionaire

[liquiddiamonds]

4 minutes ago, Billionaire said:

Hm so she's seem to lost a bit of support mostly in Latam & Asia  Interesting considering SEA especially were one of her biggest markets during her debut

Cant speak for Asia, but Vampire really can’t compare with DL or G4U as far as becoming a legit english language hit in LATAM. I guess the numbers are good overall, because it points out she has built a solid fanbase that will check her new music out regardless if a song locally took off or not, but those two songs were the type you would hear outside in places and would hear casuals talking about. So GUTS is pretty much where Billie was at post-Bad Guy and before the new barbie song here

Edited September 9, 2023 by liquiddiamonds

[liquiddiamonds]

GUTS has proven that people are here for her albums and she doesn’t need GP smashes to thrive, although Vampire is a bonafide hit, especially in the Anglosphere. I guess they have successfully established Olivia as an artist now. Hopefully she will continue to promo the record so it can have legs beyond its quality as a whole project. It’s looking good with 3

to 4 potential top 10 debuts. No way to look down on it. So videos, performances, tour. Looking forward to. 

Edited September 9, 2023 by liquiddiamonds

[Jpkun]

9 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said:

Most Swifties still support hee outside of stan twitter 

Her fanbase literally overlaps like 90% with Taylor 

I feel like this was true for SOUR (the overlap with Taylor’s audience part) but I think she has sonically disconnected herself from the majority of Taylor’s fans with GUTS. I think smart for crafting her identity but maybe it will hurt commercially.

[Blue Rose]

This is huge especially for 12 tracks. And she usually doesn’t drop very steeply. Others literally drop 30 songs albums  

[The Music Industry]

Was expecting more than Sour but still pretty good

[Squall]

11 minutes ago, Jpkun said:

I feel like this was true for SOUR (the overlap with Taylor’s audience part) but I think she has sonically disconnected herself from the majority of Taylor’s fans with GUTS. I think smart for crafting her identity but maybe it will hurt commercially.

GUTS is a continuation of SOUR though...?  

[Scars]

33 minutes ago, dussel_06 said:

ATRL was at its peak when Pop Girls exploded in their second eras after establishing a fan base on their debut - Taylor, Katy, Gaga, Rihanna, Adele, Ariana, etc.

Eh, Gaga actually peaked with her debut album. Outside of that, not really a fair comparison because these girls have different career trajectories compared to Olivia. Rihanna, Ariana and Adele first albums weren't nearly as successful as SOUR. Like, I don't even remember anything from Rihanna's debut era outside of Pon De Replay.

 

The post-debut albums were the breakthrough eras of these girls.

[JawBreaker]

2 hours ago, jeanie said:

like?? we know Taylor has no competition right now she's literally at her peak right now with decade of career, it just doesn't make sense to compare a new artist to her

Which makes it even more impressive for Taylor lol. Taylor is already going to be 34. Shes from the physical and digital era. She has no business doing these numbers 17 years and 10 albums in. It is expected that brand new shiny younger artist are supposed to outperform older artist. 

 

 

 

OT: These are amazing numbers 

 

 

[Miracle Whip]

Swifties forgetting Taylor was local for first eight years of her career.

 

[CovalentBondage]

1 minute ago, JawBreaker said:

Which makes it even more impressive for Taylor lol. Taylor is already going to be 34. Shes from the physical and digital era. She has no business doing these numbers 17 years and 10 albums in. It is expected that brand new shiny younger artist are supposed to outperform older artist. 

 

 

 

OT: These are amazing numbers 

 

 

Re-recording all her music has made her a huge figure in streaming era. Let's not pretend like she hasn't benefited from both eras of music consumption. 

[The Music Industry]

1 hour ago, Britney Spears said:

Ended MIDnights 

Not even if you triple its streams

 

[BuzzCharts]

She still has never had a song not chart 23/23

 

 

[The Music Industry]

3 minutes ago, Miracle Whip said:

Swifties forgetting Taylor was local for first eight years of her career.

 

Fearless and Red are some of the biggest albums from the late 2000s/early 2010s in Asia. Local how? At least make it make sense if you're randomly going off-topic.

 

OT: Considering she doesnt have smash hits like G4U and DL, the actual album tracks did significantly better than Sour at least. I think this will have legs

[Cryptique]

this is obviously a decline from SOUR considering everything but who cares? SOUR is the biggest female era of 2020s

 

i personally liked SOUR more, but this is also doing amazing

now i need AAB to peak in the top10

[The Music Industry]

46 minutes ago, Jpkun said:

I feel like this was true for SOUR (the overlap with Taylor’s audience part) but I think she has sonically disconnected herself from the majority of Taylor’s fans with GUTS. I think smart for crafting her identity but maybe it will hurt commercially.

I agree with the previous comment - we have to remember most fans of artists are not on stan twitter/chronically online. I have so many Swiftie friends, and pretty much all of them love Olivia. Even on Stan twitter, I feel like a lot of Swifties (including me) still consume her music often and appreciate her. Stan twitter just lives in a bubble. 

Edited September 9, 2023 by The Music Industry

[Saintlor]

This album can debut with 500k SPS right

 

On track to do the same amount of streams, (Sour's streams accounted for 223K of its SPS)

 

Sour sold 72K pure sales, this album could pull 150-250K pure sales

 

I think 400K will be a given, possibly 500K if her pure sales are very big

[JawBreaker]

7 minutes ago, CovalentBondage said:

Re-recording all her music has made her a huge figure in streaming era. Let's not pretend like she hasn't benefited from both eras of music consumption. 

I didnt know that Lover, Folklore and Midnights were rerecordings