discussion Is America facing inevitable doom?

[Big Bad Wolf]

As an American, it just feels like this nation is headed towards inevitable and utter collapse and chaos. Hell, it already feels like we are here. Economy is ****, housing market is insane, groceries are expensive, whole working families can barely afford to survive, let alone young single people who are overworked, underpaid and starved much like the rest of citizens. Morale is at an all time low, nobody cares about each other, people watch each other get violent assaulted and go on about their day because it’s not them and they don’t want to risk it being them, people get outraged over the dumbest **** like rainbows on a beer can versus the insane political and economical climate. Mental health is at an all time low, health is at an all time low; our foods are toxic, healthcare is a very expensive joke few can afford, and so much more….on a less important level even the arts have suffered. Artists dgaf anymore, even they don’t even get compensated enough to care or are way too exploited and controlled. Everything is just in complete shambles and absolutely nothing is looking up right now. I honestly wish I could get out of the US. Seriously, where do we go from here? 

Edited September 7, 2023 by Big Bad Wolf

[Rebel Lion]

Major corporations are buying up grocery stores and real estate. They will set a price they like world wide and won't budge knowing that the consumer has no option but to but from them. It's the world we're heading towards.

[GentleEarthquake]

the whole world is

[RobynYoBank]

The United States has a rough time ahead of it politically, but has so many other things uniquely going for it that it’s still better positioned for the future than pretty much any other country in the world.

[Tropez]

The US is a failed state reduced to 3rd world status.

[byzantium]

The US has many many many problems.  But it is also a country I would never bet against.  
 

It has one of the world’s most innovative and strongest economies.  It has great access to resources.  It is one of the worlds most diverse countries.  
 

If only it could figure out how to end its addiction to the automobile and see people of other races as members of their communities, it would be doing a lot better. 

[Breathe On Moi]

this is the same country that went through great depressions, civil wars, 9/11, cold wars, threatened with nuclear attacks daily, etc etc. 

 

I think we’ll be aight 

[midnightdawn]

There's a book that just came out that kind of covers this... the author says history goes in cycles where the elites accumulate too much power and resources and then comes a collapse and civil war due to the inequality. We're just entering that latter period.

https://www.amazon.com.au/End-Times-Counter-Elites-Political-Disintegration-ebook/dp/B0BFB71KPC/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

[J Legend X]

26 minutes ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

As an American, it just feels like this nation is headed towards inevitable and utter collapse and chaos. Hell, it already feels like we are here. Economy is ****, housing market is insane, groceries are expensive, whole working families can barely afford to survive, let alone young single people who are overworked, underpaid and starved much like the rest of citizens. Morale is at an all time low, nobody cares about each other, people watch each other get violent assaulted and go on about their day because it’s not them and they don’t want to risk it being them, people get outraged over the dumbest **** like rainbows on a beer can versus the insane political and economical climate. Mental health is at an all time low, health is at an all time low; our foods are toxic, healthcare is a very expensive joke few can afford, and so much more….on a less important level even the arts have suffered. Artists dgaf anymore, even they don’t even get compensated enough to care or are way too exploited and controlled. Everything is just in complete shambles and absolutely nothing is looking up right now. I honestly wish I could get out of the US. Seriously, where do we go from here? 

You have just described most developed countries in the world that are collapsing now... someone who lives in the UK says hi, even our "amazing healthcare system" is collapsing, salaries are shite, housing market and rent are impossible, etc... Most European countries are flopping, etc

[Fleahive]

Don’t read so many fear mongering headlines and people sobbing on TikTok. It’ll stress you out. The world will keep spinning. America always finds a way to dig itself out of a hole. We aren’t all going to be homeless living on the street. The government and businesses can’t afford that. They want us to thrive so they can thrive. What we need to do is do a mass boycott on businesses that take advantage of the economy. 

[JustHoran]

Things are bad in the US, and I do think we may get into a civil war (I hope not) but it does seem like it's heading that way, which is scary.

 

The US has survived some terrible things and we will get through whatever too.

[JustHoran]

23 minutes ago, midnightdawn said:

There's a book that just came out that kind of covers this... the author says history goes in cycles where the elites accumulate too much power and resources and then comes a collapse and civil war due to the inequality. We're just entering that latter period.

https://www.amazon.com.au/End-Times-Counter-Elites-Political-Disintegration-ebook/dp/B0BFB71KPC/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

I believe this. It seems like history is repeating itself which is scary  I'll have to check this book out!

[VOSS]

No.

 

And definitely not a civil war, as others have said

[Dula Peep]

I think global warming is by far our biggest threat 

[Nights]

As someone who's often critical of the US in many different ways and feels that it's closer to the end of its period of global dominance than the start (though it's still very dominant, clearly), I must say that right now America is positioned extremely strongly in the grand scheme of the world. Didn't think this would be the post-pandemic situation but here we are.

[byzantium]

There will not be a civil war.  I don’t know anyone that would give their life to keep Florida or Texas in the union.  Just let them leave (and collapse) on their own.  

[TouchinFree]

Yes . After all karma will hit hard when a government sleeps at night with blood on its hands. 

 

I have sympathy for its innocent people but certainly not it's government. 

[kimberly]

you know the US is flopping when people in California start talking about secession again 

 

I think the world is collapsing. capitalism has run its course as a failing economic system. arguably the economic center of the world, the US is feeling this in a uniquely exaggerated level, because things are changing here quite rapidly.

 

so much of the rest of the world has been exploited and living in poverty and/or conflict for a long time. the "average American" is now joining them, instead of complicity benefiting from it. hopefully that means we're nearing or already hit rock bottom and things start improving from here on out.

[Breathe On Moi]

8 minutes ago, byzantium said:

There will not be a civil war.  I don’t know anyone that would give their life to keep Florida or Texas in the union.  Just let them leave (and collapse) on their own.  

and to follow on this- the idea that EVERYONE in Florida or EVERYONE in Texas shares the same point of view is just ******* stupid. 2/3 of those states would exit and leave as quickly as possible because no matter what there are good people everywhere….. the generalization is literally nothing more than just a bugs bunny meme/gif.

[Buffy]

There’s a whole lot more that is psychologically wrong with America and the world these days. Last time I read the news, there was over 160 types of genders. How is that more believable than global warming? 

[byzantium]

4 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said:

and to follow on this- the idea that EVERYONE in Florida or EVERYONE in Texas shares the same point of view is just ******* stupid. 2/3 of those states would exit and leave as quickly as possible because no matter what there are good people everywhere….. the generalization is literally nothing more than just a bugs bunny meme/gif.

Of course not.  That doesn’t mean I think people would think it is necessary to go to war and die if the leaders of those states decided to leave.  

[Breathe On Moi]

3 minutes ago, byzantium said:

Of course not.  That doesn’t mean I think people would think it is necessary to go to war and die if the leaders of those states decided to leave.  

no I know, I was agreeing with you, just more so at people that continue to make it seem that simply based off the “leader” of the state that everyone that lives there shares the same point of view and should all be “punished.” 

[midnightdawn]

29 minutes ago, byzantium said:

There will not be a civil war.  I don’t know anyone that would give their life to keep Florida or Texas in the union.  Just let them leave (and collapse) on their own.  

Civil war just means fighting between citizens. If Trump had refused to leave office it could have been the catalyst for major protests and fighting. Or if Biden wins re-election and Trump supporters don't accept it conflict could break out.

Edited September 7, 2023 by midnightdawn

[Bears01]

The whole world is in a crap place right now 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Especially since the pandemic. America has always been hell. But the last 3 years haven’t felt real.