charts discussion H100 predictions (9/9): Zach/Kacey #1, Miley #8, Selena #19

[chiliam]

Im so excited for my girl Kacey. This is so unexpected

Country radio needs to wake the f up to support their real country talents like Zach/Kacey. Stop with the country bros, same ole same ole.

And look like it shaped up to be a real decent hit or even smash, not just a 1 week #1  fluke.

 

Still delulu to hope for Cruel Summer snatch a week next week , Taylor girl, you needs to ultilize the fanbase sheep buying power

And then the week after Doja hit the top 

 

 

[Brikenbur]

Not putting it past Team Taylor to sneak release remixes at 6pm on Thursday 

[Fastlane]

Does UTBY count for ESV stats as Top 10 single?

Edited August 30, 2023 by Fastlane

[xperience30]

Kacey 

[Mr. Duff]

Come on Miley pull through with that top ten debut  

So happy for Zach and Kacey. If Tatylor (or Luke) can't do it, at least an amazing song will block both.

 

I feel so bad for Fast Car, the unpredictable #1 debuts from other country artists blocked it. It deserved #1.

(Also Cruel Summer deserves but it's just not pushed enough  )

[ClashAndBurn]

7 hours ago, CottageHore said:

Why do we want Luke to get #1? **** that guy. We need these country artists to get tf out of the #1 spot.

 

OT: Kacey better get her long-awaited #1 and then after that, anything except a country song at #1 will work for me

Wanting Fast Car to hit #1 would be for Tracy Chapman making history as a songwriter, not for Luke, for a lot of people here. That said, plenty of people would also be rooting for both (because as far as country hits go, the song isn't as objectionable as either "Small Town" or "Rich Men."

[Dojas Attantion]

23 hours ago, Theluckyone said:

In a perfect world:

- ZB and Kacey gets their first #1 this week, as this is likely the song’s only chance.

- Cruel summer sneaks in a week at #1 next week. Drake surprise releases and this spurs Taylor to finally release the long awaited CS MV, announce a date for her Disney/Netflix special with the LA posts, and push CS hard to get back at Drake for surprise releasing early on in the midnights era. 
- Luke sneaks in a week at #1 the week after. 

I can only dream, can’t I? 

Cruel summer isnt going #1 and it wasnt best selling #1 song in any week. You guys begging for fraudulent remixes to be released in the past 5 weeks so it can go #1. 

[pride4jc1222]

This may be Fast Car's opportunity to get #1 in Canada: 

 

[Green]

41 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said:

This may be Fast Car's opportunity to get #1 in Canada: 

 

 

at least it could be #1 in Canada

 

US: #2 (blocked by Last Night, Rich Men and probably Zach/Kacey)

Canada: #2 (blocked by Last Night so far)

Australia: #2 (blocked by Doja Cat)

[DonnaSpring]

9 hours ago, CottageHore said:

Why do we want Luke to get #1? **** that guy. We need these country artists to get tf out of the #1 spot.

 

OT: Kacey better get her long-awaited #1 and then after that, anything except a country song at #1 will work for me

why ? first year country is having a genuine resurgence and you hate on it? 

[DonnaSpring]

6 hours ago, Fastlane said:

Does UTBY count for ESV stats as Top 10 single?

yes

[CottageHore]

8 minutes ago, DonnaSpring said:

why ? first year country is having a genuine resurgence and you hate on it? 

Because the majority of these “country” songs are queerphobic and racist in nature. Rich Men, Try That in a Small Town? Hello. And Morgan Wallen having the longest #1 of all time and he has a racist past. 
 

I clearly have no issue with “country doing well” when I literally stated I’m hoping Zach Bryan’s and Kacey’s song goes #1. I’m just not here for bigoted men cosplaying as country artists going #1, one after the other. Are you here for that? 

[DonnaSpring]

14 minutes ago, CottageHore said:

Because the majority of these “country” songs are queerphobic and racist in nature. Rich Men, Try That in a Small Town? Hello. And Morgan Wallen having the longest #1 of all time and he has a racist past. 
 

I clearly have no issue with “country doing well” when I literally stated I’m hoping Zach Bryan’s and Kacey’s song goes #1. I’m just not here for bigoted men cosplaying as country artists going #1, one after the other. Are you here for that? 

because when rap was dominating they had such progressive lyrics about women empowerment gay rights etc...

 

These country songs at least use real instruments and vocals unlike the autotuned mess of songs we had 2016-2022

 

This year ive added Fast car, try that in a small town and I remember everything to my playlists 

Edited August 30, 2023 by DonnaSpring

[spree]

25 minutes ago, DonnaSpring said:

because when rap was dominating they had such progressive lyrics about women empowerment gay rights etc...

 

These country songs at least use real instruments and vocals unlike the autotuned mess of songs we had 2016-2022

 

This year ive added Fast car, try that in a small town and I remember everything to my playlists 

Exactly. Rap is way more problematic (hello, multiple shootings at their concerts) than country music ever will be.  I’m glad that era is behind us.  

[ClashAndBurn]

Not shootings at concerts being a problem for rap artists when the performer during the largest mass shooting in American history was literally the "Try That In A Small Town" chanteur himself  

[Planet Mars]

54 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Not shootings at concerts being a problem for rap artists when the performer during the largest mass shooting in American history was literally the "Try That In A Small Town" chanteur himself  

Literally 

 

The member admiting to adding Try That In A Small Town to their playlist.

 

OK, Country music is still largely supported by Trumpsters who justify rioting the capital and are currently voting to rid you of your rights and the progresses made under Obama.

 

The popularity of country right now is definitely tied to the radicalized right of the United States, and that was made obvious by their mobilization beind Morgan Wallen after his use of the N word.

 

But yeah, Rap

Edited August 30, 2023 by Planet Mars

[Tsuko]

1 hour ago, CottageHore said:

Because the majority of these “country” songs are queerphobic and racist in nature. Rich Men, Try That in a Small Town? Hello. And Morgan Wallen having the longest #1 of all time and he has a racist past. 
 

I clearly have no issue with “country doing well” when I literally stated I’m hoping Zach Bryan’s and Kacey’s song goes #1. I’m just not here for bigoted men cosplaying as country artists going #1, one after the other. Are you here for that? 

I genuinely don't get how any of these songs can be considered queerphobic? And I don't think any of them are racist either. I understand why some people think Try That In a Small Town is racist, but I don't think it is personally, it was meant as an anti-crime/community unity song imo, and the rest aren't racist in any way.

 

As for Morgan Wallen, he said the N-word, that doesn't mean he was racist. When I was at school pretty much everybody said the N-word regularly.  I mean, Joe Biden has said the N-word too (twice in fact, and it's on video), I don't hear people going on about his "racist past" all the time. Likewise there are plenty of actually racist people who never say the N-word, you can't judge people just based on that.

[Planet Mars]

1 minute ago, Tsuko said:

I genuinely don't get how any of these songs can be considered queerphobic? And I don't think any of them are racist either. I understand why some people think Try That In a Small Town is racist, but I don't think it is personally, it was meant as an anti-crime/community unity song imo, and the rest aren't racist in any way.

 

As for Morgan Wallen, he said the N-word, that doesn't mean he was racist. When I was at school pretty much everybody said the N-word regularly.  I mean, Joe Biden has said the N-word too (twice in fact, and it's on video), I don't hear people going on about his "racist past" all the time. Likewise there are plenty of actually racist people who never say the N-word, you can't judge people just based on that.

The meaning of the song is one thing, but the mobilization behind it after the controversy went public is another thing.

 

Jason Aldean shot a video infront of a building where a black man was lynched in 1927 by racists who were "defending their town".

 

The fact the song took off and republicans like Trump Jr. immediately mobilized to make it a hit is not subtle. It's racist, like they are. They 100% are being radicalized behind music like this and the fact it's going over so many people's heads is

 

I have no issue with Zach Campbell of course, but Morgan Wallen, Jason Aldean and the like are gaining traction from a particular group of people who are now more than they've been in the last decade, emboldened in their rhetoric.

 

I don't know why white people (alot of them) immediately feel the need to jump to the defense of racism/racists as opposed to hearing people (who've historically dealt with its effects) out on it.

 

Try That In A Small Town went #1 because of racists, racists and fascists also took the current #1 there before he thew egg in their faces.

 

If a son dropped tomorrow that was anti BLM and came at minorities directly it would also gain traction with the same base. 

 

This isn't rocket science 

[Green]

48 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

The meaning of the song is one thing, but the mobilization behind it after the controversy went public is another thing.

 

Jason Aldean shot a video infront of a building where a black man was lynched in 1927 by racists who were "defending their town".

 

The fact the song took off and republicans like Trump Jr. immediately mobilized to make it a hit is not subtle. It's racist, like they are. They 100% are being radicalized behind music like this and the fact it's going over so many people's heads is

 

I have no issue with Zach Campbell of course, but Morgan Wallen, Jason Aldean and the like are gaining traction from a particular group of people who are now more than they've been in the last decade, emboldened in their rhetoric.

 

I don't know why white people (alot of them) immediately feel the need to jump to the defense of racism/racists as opposed to hearing people (who've historically dealt with its effects) out on it.

 

Try That In A Small Town went #1 because of racists, racists and fascists also took the current #1 there before he thew egg in their faces.

 

If a son dropped tomorrow that was anti BLM and came at minorities directly it would also gain traction with the same base. 

 

This isn't rocket science 

 

 

I agree that Try that in small town had a racist agenda and Rich men was fueled because they thought he was dragging the rich men of the left or whatever.

 

But Last Night was #1 for 19 weeks on streaming and 16 weeks on the Hot 100. Do you really think republicans were the only ones checking for Last Night? It was obviously a crossover hit that has nothing to do with politics. Same as Luke Combs with Fast Car.

[Raspberries]

https://x.com/talkofthecharts/status/1696911279120633893?s=46&t=0g2y4ISww1bR54Pxdqkf-Q
 

Zach & Kacey are really gonna pull it off

[Ger]

 

Poor Luke 

Edited August 30, 2023 by Ger-55

[Green]

If Luke gets a 9th week at #2 he will tie Shania's You're Still The One (another country hit bocked from #1)

 

Number of weeks	Artist(s)	Song	Year(s)	Kept out of number-one position by	Source
10	Foreigner	"Waiting for a Girl Like You"	1981–82	"Physical" (Olivia Newton-John), "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)" (Hall & Oates)	[12]
	Missy Elliott	"Work It"	2002–03	"Lose Yourself" (Eminem)	[13]
9	Donna Lewis	"I Love You Always Forever"	1996	"Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" (Los del Río)	[13]
	Shania Twain	"You're Still the One"	1998	"Too Close" (Next), "The Boy Is Mine" (Brandy and Monica)	[12]
	Brenda Lee	"Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree"	2019–2023	"All I Want for Christmas Is You" (Mariah Carey)	[14]

[fridayteenage]

Looks like Brenda will be breaking the record anyway unless this is her lucky year

[CottageHore]

5 hours ago, DonnaSpring said:

because when rap was dominating they had such progressive lyrics about women empowerment gay rights etc...

 

These country songs at least use real instruments and vocals unlike the autotuned mess of songs we had 2016-2022

 

This year ive added Fast car, try that in a small town and I remember everything to my playlists 

Who brought up rap music, miss Donna Summer? That’s an entirely different discussion. Let’s not deflect from my initial point/opinion, which is that I’m personally not excited about racist and homophobic anti-progressive music topping the charts. If that’s something you enjoy, that’s your prerogative. I’ll let you enjoy what you enjoy and you can let me enjoy or not enjoy what I please.

 

We’re not going to sit and pretend like the songs didn’t go #1 because they resonated with millions of MAGA trump supporters who saw their own values and opinions reflected in the song. Not everything is surface level, it’s deeper and more nuanced and you know that. Don’t play stupid.

Edited August 30, 2023 by CottageHore

[CottageHore]

3 hours ago, Tsuko said:

I genuinely don't get how any of these songs can be considered queerphobic? And I don't think any of them are racist either. I understand why some people think Try That In a Small Town is racist, but I don't think it is personally, it was meant as an anti-crime/community unity song imo, and the rest aren't racist in any way.

 

As for Morgan Wallen, he said the N-word, that doesn't mean he was racist. When I was at school pretty much everybody said the N-word regularly.  I mean, Joe Biden has said the N-word too (twice in fact, and it's on video), I don't hear people going on about his "racist past" all the time. Likewise there are plenty of actually racist people who never say the N-word, you can't judge people just based on that.

If your justification for Morgan is by comparing him to Joe Biden, you’ve already **** all over your own argument cuz yikes