charts discussion Cruel Summer challenging for #1; threatened by new racist country song

[Dula Peep]

Taylor defeated again  we love to see it 

[naval23]

omg if Cruel Summer gets blocked for weeks because of this song 

[umich]

40 minutes ago, gagacasanova said:

Where in the literal **** did this guy come from

Not going from top ten debut to top three to a #1 guarantee all in 3 days  

[Green]

Olivia and Oliver  

 

The last 2 artists to debut at #1 with their debut single  

 

I think Olivia charted with a random disney song at the bottom of the chart but Billboard always says drivers license was her debut single

[rac7d]

2 hours ago, wish said:

The song is resonating now BUT something had to be manipulated behind the scenes for this completely unknown artist to surface in such a big way.

 

Whether it's a calculated industry push, sketchy social media algorithms (hello Elon), or chart manipulations... something is off

Wasn’t the industry complaining last week that it can’t build big stars like they use too.  They didn’t do this

[Bonicap]

38 minutes ago, Dula Peep said:

Taylor defeated again  we love to see it 

Imagine having to celebrate that a 2019 song from the artist you hate is at #2 instead of #1. Hard times 

Edited August 16, 2023 by Bonicap

[naval23]

Lover is cursed truly. Not meant to have a #1 single. 

[QueenofCopyPaste]

Wow the lyrics are so profound and real

 

No wonder is spreading like wildfire rn

[cityfolk]

17 minutes ago, Green said:

Olivia and Oliver  

 

The last 2 artists to debut at #1 with their debut single  

 

I think Olivia charted with a random disney song at the bottom of the chart but Billboard always says drivers license was her debut single

All I Want debuted after drivers license was released, but it was released before drivers license

 

i cannot believe the sales on the Richmond song...  

 

the industry plant has been WATERED

[Katamari]

1 hour ago, Michael196 said:

Rich Men North of Richmond

 

Spotify:

#3 United States (+6)

#14 Canada (+18)

#61 Ireland (+107)

#62 Worldwide (+90)

#106 Australia (NE)

#145 New Zealand (NE)

Apple Music:

#1 United States (=)

#2 Canada (+4)

#52 Bhutan (+4)

#59 Australia (+48)

#72 Ireland (+33)

#149 Sweden (NE)

#164 New Zealand (NE)

#171 Norway (NE)

#180 United Kingdom (NE)

iTunes (9x #1):

#1 Australia (=)

#1 Canada (=)

#1 Finland (NE)

#1 Ireland (=)

#1 New Zealand (=)

#1 Slovenia (=)

#1 Sweden (+1)

#1 United Kingdom (=)

#1 United States (=)

#2 Norway (=)

#5 Germany (-1)

#8 Netherlands (-4)

#8 South Africa (-4)

#12 Greece (NE)

#12 Switzerland (+9)

#16 Czech Republic (NE)

#22 Denmark (+10)

#30 Belgium (+71)

#45 France (+73)

#52 Spain (+12)

#61 Poland (NE)

Shazam:

#13 United States (+13)

#16 Canada (+16)

#44 Ireland (+89)

#56 Australia (+26)

#95 New Zealand (+52)

#136 Norway (NE)

#166 Worldwide (NE)
 

its the fact its slaying globally for me

like aus i get but some of these other countries chile....

[Green]

36 minutes ago, cityfolk said:

All I Want debuted after drivers license was released, but it was released before drivers license

 

 

 

Now it makes sence. I guess it debuted thanks to the drivers license success/hype

[spree]

but i thought country music was just popular in the US?

[lukascharts]

3 hours ago, Baby Judas said:

 

 

150+ pts lead..  

This is so inaccurate, especially the points lead.

 

Rich Men North Of Richmonds' sales were all stable each day with around 24K sales/day. It's not going to all of a sudden increase to 40K sales/day, especially since sales are frontloaded (it did similar sales on Sunday compared to Saturday despite having way more streams, for one). 150K sales is a way more accurate projection.

 

Cruel Summer's gains have stalled at this point. I saw TOTC's predictions yesterday and I would honestly have been shocked if it was still in the top 3.

 

It's quite obvious All My Life is falling faster than Snooze. How is it higher all of a sudden?

[kyoshi]

obvious fraudulent activity done by ed sheeran 2.0

[spree]

21 minutes ago, lukascharts said:

This is so inaccurate, especially the points lead.

 

Rich Men North Of Richmonds' sales were all stable each day with around 24K sales/day. It's not going to all of a sudden increase to 40K sales/day, especially since sales are frontloaded (it did similar sales on Sunday compared to Saturday despite having way more streams, for one). 150K sales is a way more accurate projection.

 

Cruel Summer's gains have stalled at this point. I saw TOTC's predictions yesterday and I would honestly have been shocked if it was still in the top 3.

 

It's quite obvious All My Life is falling faster than Snooze. How is it higher all of a sudden?

where do you get your sales info?

[LostInStereo100]

21 minutes ago, lukascharts said:

This is so inaccurate, especially the points lead.

 

Rich Men North Of Richmonds' sales were all stable each day with around 24K sales/day. It's not going to all of a sudden increase to 40K sales/day, especially since sales are frontloaded (it did similar sales on Sunday compared to Saturday despite having way more streams, for one). 150K sales is a way more accurate projection.

 

Cruel Summer's gains have stalled at this point. I saw TOTC's predictions yesterday and I would honestly have been shocked if it was still in the top 3.

 

It's quite obvious All My Life is falling faster than Snooze. How is it higher all of a sudden?

CS has been gaining really hard the last three weeks in a row on streaming and radio is still gaining overall. Plus we have Mexico tour boost coming (lots of buzz) and anniversary next week for Lover album. I think it could increase even more  

[Green]

Poor Luke

 

 

[lukascharts]

4 minutes ago, spree said:

where do you get your sales info?

The exact sales figure was leaked earlier today. Another source given to a predictor stated that it "did approximately the same each day."

[BrokenMachine]

5 minutes ago, Green said:

Poor Luke

 

 

Not the 2-4 being so close to eachother 

[genetic fail]

41 minutes ago, Green said:

Poor Luke

 

 

Taylor going from possibly #1 to going down a spot to #4 

[TrieLz]

Fast car this year bad romance 

he should be #1 this week if not for that random rich men song

 

Taylor will be #1 next week or the week after for sure.

unless she start freefalling on radio, which is not going to happen

Edited August 16, 2023 by TrieLz

[Kool_Aid_King]

This is wild... wow. The charts were bad in 2020 and 2022, but I think we can all agree that this is infinitely worse than any BTS scam  

[Katamari]

1 hour ago, kyoshi said:

obvious fraudulent activity done by ed sheeran 2.0

The nerve to compare this man to unproblematic and inclusive king ed

[HEAVYONIT]

Y’all continue to fight dumb stan wars when there’s a new enemy threatening us all 

[Bonicap]

1 hour ago, Katamari said:

its the fact its slaying globally for me

like aus i get but some of these other countries chile....

It's not even close to being global. iTunes is absolutely irrelevant everywhere, you could go Top 10 with 50 sales in some countries and this is not even an exaggeration. Apple Music in countries like Norway, Sweden and... Bhutan is also a very small platform. Everybody uses Spotify in Europe. And on Spotify you have it at #3 in the US, #14 in Canada, which is a very similar market, and some noise in other Anglosphere countries. This has not and won't ever make any noise outside of the US and its satellites.