liquiddiamonds Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 Shake It Off is so underserving of this success. Taylor has so many better songs but the GP has spoken i guess
style17 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: Well, I did specify signature country hit, but I still think Love Story still has a stronger claim to that title than YBWM since it’s ahead in overall consumption/units in the US despite the latter being more streamed overall. Love Story TV is also charting on US Spotify right now while YBWM TV isn’t, so it’s at least marginally ahead in current streams. It’s honestly surprising to me that anyone thinks YBWM was bigger, if we’re being honest. It just doesn’t feel right. I fear I just am YBWM stan. I think You Belong With Me is more of a universal one and was even quite popular with straight men I fear.
FolkLover1989 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, style17 said: I fear I just am YBWM stan. I think You Belong With Me is more of a universal one and was even quite popular with straight men I fear. Tbf even Love Story is very popular with straight men You can't choose between these 2
Armani? Posted July 13, 2023 Author Posted July 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: I think they did mess up the streams count Maybe he meant to put 1.65B
FolkLover1989 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Armani? said: Maybe he meant to put 1.65B Does Pandora counts in on demand streams? Also I think SIO is big on Amazon Music which is very weird with streams It's actually difficult to know unless we have breakdown
byzantium Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: YBWM feels bigger cause it had become College Football mandatory song in USA. And College Football is massive in US I often see the bands playing the song It also was the bigger song on radio at the time, and the bigger music video at the time, and the one nominated for all the awards. 1
brenda-walsh Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 You Belong With Me has always felt bigger than Love Story and the video is so much more iconic as well
FolkLover1989 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, byzantium said: It also was the bigger song on radio at the time, and the bigger music video at the time, and the one nominated for all the awards. Nomination for all the awards has do with the fact that Love Story came up a year earlier and in different tracking of award year Fearless album blowing up changed the trajectory of her career and then offcourse The continuous hit singles run LS - WH - YBWM - Fifteen Wow , I am getting nostalgic
Odette Violet Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 Shake it Off over her Magnum Opus Love Story?
Goaty Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 All the SIO lashings in here but I think its placement is deserved. It was an important inflection point in her career during which she proved she could be a legitimate pop star. The fact that Scott Borchetta begged her to put a fiddle or something in it and she said no and then picked it as the lead means she took a huge risk and it paid off 10x over.
Armani? Posted July 13, 2023 Author Posted July 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: Does Pandora counts in on demand streams? Also I think SIO is big on Amazon Music which is very weird with streams It's actually difficult to know unless we have breakdown I dont think so, they call those streams "programmed"
Ms. Togekiss Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Monster Queen said: Most Taylor songs have 40% - 50% streams from the US, if Youtube was included BS should have at least 2 B streams in the US, so I guess it doesn't Not you still treating Taylor as local. And even then, her YouTube streams particularly are global af, so the US share is much lower than that 1
Ger Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 "Shake It Off" really won, we kinda hate to see it, but I was bopping hard back in the day, it's infectiously catchy, none can't deny it, and yes, probably her song with her most universal appeal, not a surprise it's her signature hit in the States. I am impressed by LWYMMD's stats tho, that is pretty massive, damn.
naval23 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 YBWM was massive in the USA. It wasn't even done half of its chart run and it was the 2nd biggest airplay song of 2009 behind "Love Story"
Enrique523 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 6 hours ago, WeFoundTrouble said: HOW does Blank Space trail SIO so much, that is a whole “Style” sized lead Love Story is low compared to YBWM Good, You Belong With Me is the better song.
Steve Johnson Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 YBWM was bigger in USA. Love Story bigger outside US (Asia and Oceania).
Enrique523 Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buffy said: Who is streaming Calm Down and Me? People who don't spend all their time on pop forums/stan twitter. 1 hour ago, Steve Johnson said: YBWM was bigger in USA. Love Story bigger outside US (Asia and Oceania). Funny i always thought it was the other way around. I live in Belgium and back in 2009 i discovered Taylor for the first time with YBWM, the song was on TV all the time. But Love Story was nowhere to be found. Edited July 13, 2023 by Enrique523
Isaiah Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 7 hours ago, WeFoundTrouble said: HOW does Blank Space trail SIO so much, that is a whole “Style” sized lead Love Story is low compared to YBWM This doesn’t shock me that much tbh, love story was a much bigger global-success, but ybwm feels like a way bigger American-classic all things considered, especially the video.
Protocol Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 16 hours ago, liquiddiamonds said: Shake It Off is so underserving of this success. Taylor has so many better songs but the GP has spoken i guess It's the damn chorus with those horns. I remember hearing it for the first time in 2014 and I thought "this is the one". This is her signature song. It's just one of those magical melodies that are so simple you're shocked no one came up with it before. And the stupid horn riff Max Martin did that is also genius but so simple. 1
Protocol Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 15 hours ago, Goaty said: All the SIO lashings in here but I think its placement is deserved. It was an important inflection point in her career during which she proved she could be a legitimate pop star. The fact that Scott Borchetta begged her to put a fiddle or something in it and she said no and then picked it as the lead means she took a huge risk and it paid off 10x over. Where she was super smart was in making pop that still felt pretty 'organic' and analog. It's not a dance-pop single per se. There are synths but they're subtle. The Hey Mickey style beat felt pretty timeless. The horns made it sound like a big band type of song. So while it was pure pop and no longer country, it was still 'real' sounding enough to not totally alienate the country audience. Same thing with Blank Space, it's pop but it's got acoustic guitar, minimalist beat that doesn't feel too computerized. She kept the more overtly pop/disco/synthy stuff like Style to later in the campaign. In a way Reputation is her first true POP pop album with zero attempt to make it sound organic or real instruments or whatever.
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