Miss Fortune Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, JayG said: Seneca knew what he was though - a philosopher and a writer (among other things). Like, I think it’s as simple as finding out the things you're REALLY good at and doing that. In this particular collection of letters and journal letters, he ponders on the meaning of life, what people preoccupy themselves with, what seems to be worthwhile and what doesn’t. It’s a really interesting read and draws a lot of parallels to modern life.
Cyanide Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 Some people who don’t feel passion or meaning in life were never given the space or opportunity to find it and feel that it becomes too late after college age
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Miss Fortune said: In this particular collection of letters and journal letters, he ponders on the meaning of life, what people preoccupy themselves with, what seems to be worthwhile and what doesn’t. It’s a really interesting read and draws a lot of parallels to modern life. The Bhagavad Gita says to act in line with your temperament as a person aka do whatever you're good at. Passion, love, whatever lights you on fire is what you should pursue. Meaning is subjective, whats worthwhile is doing what/the things you love. Period. Edited June 19, 2023 by JayG
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Cyanide said: Some people who don’t feel passion or meaning in life were never given the space or opportunity to find it and feel that it becomes too late after college age I don't agree. If you have passions from a young age, you know what you should be pursuing. An if you dont feel passion for anything, why go to college and waste a bunch of money studying something you dont care about? It doesnt add up. Everybody loves SOMETHING. SOMETHING. And everyone should pursue THOSE things. Cooking, nursing, music, design, animals, like whatever the **** it is that sets you on fire or you find joy in, is what you should be doing. Period. College is a literal scam outside of Medicine and Law. Example: I'm a designer. My sister is in teaching. My cousins are famous in the car space. Others do finance. We all have a gift for something. Edited June 19, 2023 by JayG
Miss Fortune Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, JayG said: The Bhagavad Gita says to act in line with your temperament as a person aka do whatever you're good at. Passion, love, whatever lights you on fire is what you should pursue. Meaning is subjective, whats worthwhile is doing what/the things you love. Period. I think the issue with that way of thinking in today’s society is that we often equate passion with what we should do for work. Unfortunately, mixing profit with passion often takes the love out of it. I do agree with this in general though, you should gravitate to what lights you up inside. Whether that’s a hobby, spending time with family or just living.
Da Vinci Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, JayG said: why go to college and waste a bunch of money studying something you dont care about? It doesnt add up one word: parents
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Da Vinci said: one word: parents If your parents cared about you, they wouldn't want you to be miserable entering some outdated system which doesn't hold much weight in todays world
Starfish Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 My ultimate goal in live is to have sex with Justin Bieber at least once.
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Miss Fortune said: I think the issue with that way of thinking in today’s society is that we often equate passion with what we should do for work. Unfortunately, mixing profit with passion often takes the love out of it. I do agree with this in general though, you should gravitate to what lights you up inside. Whether that’s a hobby, spending time with family or just living. Yes and no. This is why freelance/finding the RIGHT work is so important when it comes to passion. For example: I love art direction, so I would rather do that over crappy corporate design. Another example: directors pick and choose the projects they work on when they get established cause its nothing but pure joy and fun for them. I do the same thing. I try to do projects (even if its jsut for myself) that bring me so much joy, and that led to me working with artists directly. I genuinely LOVE working on projects, nothing makes me happier actually. To the point I got given 100K funding to do more projects. Its possible. The only time my passion has felt souless or sucked the life out of it was when I was doing design work for apps, corporations and crappy products I know nothing about. My tattoo artist absolutely LOVES his job and he gets PAID, highly. Literal goals. I think when I met him for the first time, that showed me what was possible. I also know people who work on the teams of artists who do video/editing/production work and its like a family: work is fun because they CARE about the art they are contributing towards. I think this really is the key. Sometimes you can just go work for someone/something you love cause you care about it too.
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sazare said: Nothing, life has no meaning If you believe this then why are you alive lol
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, Cyanide said: Some people who don’t feel passion or meaning in life were never given the space or opportunity to find it and feel that it becomes too late after college age Age is a number, its never too late. Everyone deep down knows what they love/want/are good at. It takes finding it, for sure. But, we all have something to offer, otherwise we wouldn't be alive/here/would die.
Miss Fortune Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, JayG said: Yes and no. This is why freelance/finding the RIGHT work is so important when it comes to passion. For example: I love art direction, so I would rather do that over crappy corporate design. Another example: directors pick and choose the projects they work on when they get established cause its nothing but pure joy and fun for them. I do the same thing. I try to do projects (even if its jsut for myself) that bring me so much joy, and that led to me working with artists directly. I genuinely LOVE working on projects, nothing makes me happier actually. To the point I got given 100K funding to do more projects. Its possible. The only time my passion has felt souless or sucked the life out of it was when I was doing design work for apps, corporations and crappy products I know nothing about. My tattoo artist absolutely LOVES his job and he gets PAID, highly. Literal goals. I think when I met him for the first time, that showed me what was possible. I also know people who work on the teams of artists who do video/editing/production work and its like a family: work is fun because they CARE about the art they are contributing towards. I think this really is the key. Sometimes you can just go work for someone/something you love cause you care about it too. Yes, fortunately I am in that position too but I don’t think that’s the case for everyone. Plenty of people I have known over the years have not been able to make a sufficient living by following their passion, despite being brilliantly talented or hard working. I don’t like the idea that a passion is only valid if you manage to become established or make a lot of money doing it. A passion is just as valid if you only do it for pure joy. 2
Xtina23 Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) Be a #BadBitch, be a cute wifey/bottom & get money ******* YASSSSS Edited June 19, 2023 by Xtina23
Sazare Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, JayG said: If you believe this then why are you alive lol I mean what else am I gonna do, kill myself?
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 Just now, Miss Fortune said: Yes, fortunately I am in that position too but I don’t think that’s the case for everyone. Plenty of people I have known over the years have not been able to make a sufficient living by following their passion, despite being brilliantly talented or hard working. I don’t like the idea that a passion is only valid if you manage to become established or make a lot of money doing it. A passion is just as valid if you only do it for pure joy. You dont have to do it for money... I never did design for money for YEARS until I got my break. Artists are the same, aint nobody paying them **** until they get good enough that people want what they have to offer. I am passionate about many things, but I know damn well I cant sing like Mariah. But I absolutely LOVE music, and DJ/dance/produce for fun (with hopes to do DJ'ing professionally). I think its redundant to believe most people have ONE career. You can be multitalented and do things for fun and/or profesionally. Some of our favs are MULTI talented and have gone into different arenas, we can do the same thing.
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Sazare said: I mean what else am I gonna do, kill myself? You think life has no meaning. So whats the point of being here? Of course it has meaning - what do you love to do? That is your purpose/meaning. Go do that. Go connect with other people do love that stuff too.
Dream Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) I agree with others who say that life has no inherent meaning. There isn't a specific reason why we are alive, besides the obvious biological ones. I don't like the cliche "make your own meaning" but it really does boil down to that. And if you can't find your own meaning yet, well, I don't blame you and you're not alone. It's not always plausible to pursue your passion. There are so many talented people out there who don't come from the right family and therefore don't have the right connections, enough money, etc. They may live in an area that prevents them from reaching their full potential, whether it's due to economic or social reasons. They flounder and have bills to pay or loved ones to take care of. Overall, I don't think we have as much free will as we like to think (with regards to shaping our lives). Edited June 19, 2023 by Dream
James_Joint Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Miss Fortune said: If you’re struggling with this I really recommend reading On The Shortness of Life by Seneca. People have struggled with this for all of humanity and reading a book from thousands of years ago exploring the same issues you’re facing today is really helpful in grounding your feelings. No offense but I do not see how reading anything from thousands of years ago would be grounding or applicable to modern life, but maybe I’m being cynical because this made me think of someone telling you to read the Bible when it has zero relevance and only hinders the progression of society through indoctrination and mental gymnastics. im an atheist who was raised southern baptist so I guess I just got triggered.
DamianSolo Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 To spread positivity and be understanding of others, while helping them get on the right path in life to the best of my abilities, as I still go through and figure out life for myself as well. I'm not perfect, by any means, but I can still be a light for people.
Sazare Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, JayG said: You think life has no meaning. So whats the point of being here? Of course it has meaning - what do you love to do? That is your purpose/meaning. Go do that. Go connect with other people do love that stuff too. Sure I could find my own purpose or create my own meaning out of life, but that’s not the same thing as what the purpose of my life is, which implies a sort of divine intention, and is the question the OP actually asked.
JayG Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sazare said: Sure I could find my own purpose or create my own meaning out of life, but that’s not the same thing as what the purpose of my life is, which implies a sort of divine intention, and is the question the OP actually asked. Thats a deeper convo but yeah... the way I've read it in multiple place is that what you have to OFFER (your taste, talent, personality, passions, inherent gifts, education, interests etc) is your purpose. How you best connect to others, yourself, and what you offer each other is purpose. Thats it. And thats completely unique and individual to each person. Mariah Carey offers her voice and pen game. A doctor offers their expertise and compassion. A pilot offers their skills etc. A chef offers their skills etc etc. A model offers their looks. A designer offers their visual taste and skills. A songwriter, a dancer, a vet, a whatever the ****. And some are multiifaceted/skilled etc. Purpose lies in passion tbh. I mean, even if you aren't the artist on the stage, you do connect with them and you work hard to buy a ticket to their shows and listen to their albums and therefore connect with others who love the same ****. Its all about interconnectedness. Go where you feel called to/attracted and the rest kind of falls in to place. Edited June 19, 2023 by JayG
JayG Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Cyanide said: Ever since I was a teenager I’ve always had the same passion that eventually became my job as an adult. Thank god I pursued my dream and didn’t allow detractors to dissuade me as a young child. It’s sad when people don’t have support in their dreams and can change the direction of one’s life forever.. Everyone should aspire to find their ikigai in life YES. EXACTLY. I've been designing since I was 13. So it was a no brainer for me to go into design, film and art direction etc. I'm so glad you found yours in your teens like I did! Thats how I got my scholarship!
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