Orsay Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 not sure I agree with the precedent set here but its probably for the best as those threads have become redundant the same discourse will be able to happen in other threads though (trans women in sports threads etc) Link to comment
suburbannature Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Why is this controversial? It's a privately-owned forum and banning further discussion on a topic that is both harmful and gives a platform for hate speech towards members of our own community (LGBTQ) is a good choice. Link to comment
suburbannature Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Oh, also, for those saying "don't silence the discussions!" Discussions revolving around this topic have happened for years on this forum and have devolved into harmful stereotypes and fear mongering each time regardless of the intent of the topic creator. Link to comment
Mr. Loco Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 hours ago, suburbannature said: Why is this controversial? It's a privately-owned forum and banning further discussion on a topic that is both harmful and gives a platform for hate speech towards members of our own community (LGBTQ) is a good choice. Censorship is more harmful than any topic by itself. For every topic there's gonna be all kinds of opinions, and the only civilized way of reasoning about it is through discussion. Link to comment
suburbannature Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Mr. Loco said: Censorship is more harmful than any topic by itself. For every topic there's gonna be all kinds of opinions, and the only civilized way of reasoning about it is through discussion. No one is saying you can’t discuss trans issues…just specifics involving JK Rowling’s bigotry. Link to comment
Headlock Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Mr. Loco said: Censorship is more harmful than any topic by itself. For every topic there's gonna be all kinds of opinions, and the only civilized way of reasoning about it is through discussion. There is literally nothing civilized about the “discussions” with transphobes in these threads. Banning a topic on a privately owned forum is not censorship, and furthermore is entirely understandable given the continued and increasingly insidious hateful speech and transphobia on a site that has a predominantly LGBTQ+ membership. You want to talk about JK? Cool, you literally have the entire internet to do so Link to comment
Headlock Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 10 hours ago, Communion said: Every ******* time @Headlock It’s so utterly predictable Members whining about “any slight disagreement” over trans issues always turns into them having a post history with blatant transphobia Link to comment
FreeXone Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 9 hours ago, Milestone said: the fumes you can always join your transphobic friends over at lsa if you have a problem Lsa is the pits Link to comment
Watson! Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 14 hours ago, Headlock said: There is literally nothing civilized about the “discussions” with transphobes in these threads. Banning a topic on a privately owned forum is not censorship, and furthermore is entirely understandable given the continued and increasingly insidious hateful speech and transphobia on a site that has a predominantly LGBTQ+ membership. You want to talk about JK? Cool, you literally have the entire internet to do so in another universe, some other privately owned forums might ban pro lgtbt threads. I guess that is fine. the hypocrisy in this forum.. Link to comment
bluceleste Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 4/2/2023 at 7:53 PM, Communion said: This is exactly the type of person I was referring to. You are THIS because you don’t agree with me 100%. It doesn’t matter even if there are plenty of trans-people who have a similar viewpoint. My opinion is law, therefore you have committed blasphemy. Link to comment
hallucinate Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I mean it’s not like the mods are banning all threads about transphobia/transphobic people JK Rowling constantly spreads hate, no need to make threads for everytime she speaks Link to comment
Headlock Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 33 minutes ago, Watson! said: in another universe, some other privately owned forums might ban pro lgtbt threads. I guess that is fine. the hypocrisy in this forum.. Not you equating the banning of hate speech around one specific person with the banning of pro-LGBTQ messaging Y’all are gonna both-sides yourselves into a black hole Link to comment
Mr. Loco Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 13 hours ago, Headlock said: Not you equating the banning of hate speech around one specific person with the banning of pro-LGBTQ messaging Y’all are gonna both-sides yourselves into a black hole Censorship works both ways, if we don't want our beliefs to be shut down, we should be able to listen to the counterpart Link to comment
Headlock Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Mr. Loco said: Censorship works both ways, if we don't want our beliefs to be shut down, we should be able to listen to the counterpart It actually doesn't work that way, because the "counterpart" to LGBTQ+ rights and acceptance is virulent bigotry, hatred, and violence. Those "beliefs" are flat out incorrect. The basic rights of a group of human beings isn't something that is up for debate Link to comment
Pandora30012 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 That’s so extra, like there aren’t a bunch of other homophobes and transphobes in the industry Link to comment
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted April 6 ATRL Moderator Share Posted April 6 On 4/2/2023 at 9:06 AM, Leppie said: Trans rights are human rights and if you disagree delete ur atrl account I think this is a great way to end this thread now Link to comment
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