Just now, dabunique said:

Papa Don’t Preach was da number one song in da world in 1986. Don’t disrespect it’s classic status 

We're not living in 1986 anymore though. Ask anyone under the age of 30 if they know PDP.

You guys literally make threads over the dumbest things.

 

 

Sometimes it's embarrassing to be on ATRL.

3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Ask anyone under the age of 30 if they know PDP

Why don't you do the honors since you know everything?

 

Go ahead.

1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said:

In 2023 it's not a classic. Poll people and see how many people can name it as a Madonna song.

It's 2023 and it is a classic. Streaming isn't the be-all-end-all parameter for classics. Especially when this whole metric was not even widely accessible until almost 30 years after the release of these songs  Madonna sold nearly 60 million pure copies of her greatest hits albums.. that's like double what Gaga has sold in pure in total to this day. It's obvious that to multiple generations, no matter the age - these songs had an impact and thus are classics.

 

Holiday

Lucky Star

Borderline 

Like a Virgin

Material Girl

Crazy For You 

Into The Groove

Papa Don't Preach

La Isla Bonita 

True Blue 

Open Your Heart

Live To Tell 

Like a Prayer

Express Yourself 

Vogue 

Take A Bow 

Ray of Light 

Frozen 

 

... are all worthy classic contenders and you're delusional if you think otherwise. 

1 minute ago, Jjang said:

It's 2023 and it is a classic. Streaming isn't the be-all-end-all parameter for classics. Especially when this whole metric was not even widely accessible until almost 30 years after the release of these songs  Madonna sold nearly 60 million pure copies of her greatest hits albums.. that's like double what Gaga has sold in pure in total to this day. It's obvious that to multiple generations, no matter the age - these songs had an impact and thus are classics.

 

Holiday

Lucky Star

Borderline 

Like a Virgin

Material Girl

Crazy For You 

Into The Groove

Papa Don't Preach

La Isla Bonita 

True Blue 

Open Your Heart

Live To Tell 

Like a Prayer

Express Yourself 

Vogue 

Take A Bow 

Ray of Light 

Frozen 

 

... are all worthy classic contenders and you're delusional if you think otherwise. 

A hit song =/= a bona fide classic. Bona fide classics are songs that stand the test of time and are evergreen, just because a song was a noteworthy hit for it's time doesn't mean it's a bona fide classic, and a song could underperform for its time and be recognized as a classic later. This thread is about CLASSICS, which Madonna has plenty of, but you can't just call every hit a classic. Should we consider every hit that Gaga, Taylor, Britney and others get a classic? Most artists only have one or two songs that the general public at large universally associates them with and are still consumed.

3 minutes ago, Jjang said:

 

Lucky Star

Borderline 

Crazy For You 

Into The Groove

True Blue 

Open Your Heart

Live To Tell 

Express Yourself 

Vogue 

Take A Bow 

Ray of Light 

 

 

5 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

We're not living in 1986 anymore though. Ask anyone under the age of 30 if they know PDP.

and what makes you so sure that in 2050 the casual GP teen folk will know every word to Poker Face or Born This Way? 

This set up. Even Liddos can't defend this one. 

 

In Madonna's first 15 years, she's had these classics:

Holiday 

Lucky Star 

Like A Virgin 

Material Girl 

Into the Groove 

Crazy For You 

Papa Don't Preach 

La Isla Bonita 

Like A Prayer 

Express Yourself 

Vogue 

Etc... 

Madonna 

1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said:

A hit song =/= a bona fide classic. Bona fide classics are songs that stand the test of time and are evergreen, just because a song was a noteworthy hit for it's time doesn't mean it's a bona fide classic, and a song could underperform for its time and be recognized as a classic later. This thread is about CLASSICS, which Madonna has plenty of, but you can't just call every hit a classic. Should we consider every hit that Gaga, Taylor, Britney and others get a classic? Most artists only have one or two songs that the general public at large universally associates them with and are still consumed.

I didn't call every hit a classic, though.  If I did that list would have been x3 longer. 

3 minutes ago, Xder said:

Is this song at least 100m on spotify? Cyndi classics have over 500m on spotify it's crazy Madonna numbers are so low...

 yes madonna has no 100m songs on Spotify! 

19 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Material Girl is a classic, Papa Don't Preach isn't.

If PDP isn't a classic, then half the songs you listed by Gaga certainly aren't.

 

14 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

In 2023 it's not a classic. Poll people and see how many people can name it as a Madonna song.

As if a site full of delusional Monsters are going to admit to many Madonna songs being classics  - like Madonna or her fans need their validation anyway. lmao

 

10 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

We're not living in 1986 anymore though. Ask anyone under the age of 30 if they know PDP.

We're not living in 2008 either, and tne world doesn't revolve around people under 30.

4 minutes ago, GlamSlam said:

We're not living in 2008 either

6 minutes ago, Jjang said:

 yes madonna has no 100m songs on Spotify! 

I meant the vogue song, I know that material girl has 320m on spotify

Just now, Xder said:

I meant the vogue song, I know that material girl has 320m on spotify

Vogue has over 180 million plays on Spotify.

 

So yes according to your logic, it it indeed a classic.

 

26 minutes ago, Xder said:

Are you kidding? Right? 20?

 

Like a prayer

Like a virgin

Material girl

La isla bonita

Hung up 

Thats all...

???

Vogue

Express Yourself

Holiday

Take a Bow

Papa Don’t preach

frozen

music

don’t tell me

etc..

4 minutes ago, Xder said:

I meant the vogue song, I know that material girl has 320m on spotify

Material Girl - 372,554,103

Like a Prayer - 350,946,122 

La Isla Bonita - 280,936,980

Like A Virgin - 260,291,013 

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Vogue - 204,727,526 

7 minutes ago, Chris said:

Vogue has over 180 million plays on Spotify.

 

So yes according to your logic, it it indeed a classic.

 

No it's not, it was a hit in the 90s?80s? that's all. nobody even plays it on the radio

 

Madonna obviously 

1 minute ago, Xder said:

No it's not, it was a hit in the 90s?80s? that's all. nobody even plays it on the radio

 

Oh my god, I'm so embarrassed for you. Vogue wasn't "just a hit in the 90's".

  You've certainly got a lot to learn.

I guess we already have a winner for the moronic thread of the year 

Xder is so mad 

Madonna obviously

 

5 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Material Girl - 372,554,103

Like a Prayer - 350,946,122 

La Isla Bonita - 280,936,980

Like A Virgin - 260,291,013 

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Vogue - 204,727,526 

It shows me 320m have you added remixes, other versions?