I've seen a lot of people come for camila about this but yet I see this is the case with older divas too. If one song is carrying the whole album then how is that album a success? The song is a success but that album not so much.  

 

This should be the new it doesn't count because it's a feature and not a solo song. 

 

One pop girl in particular is known for it. It’s truly embarrassing & only shows people aren’t interested in the whole product.

What older divas are you referring to?

It’s good to have hits, but as a whole? Nah. If one album has like, 1 billion Spotify streams, but every other song struggling to get 50 million, that’s not impressive 

As you said it, the song is a success but the album isn't 

I guess it is better if at least one song is carrying an album than none song at all.

 

I generally would say the song was successful but not the album.

 

I like to determine the success of an album based on the average stream of the non-singles.  This shows me people listening to the album rather than just singles.  
 

However, when determining the success of an Era, singles and album tracks are holistically judged.  

8 minutes ago, Power love said:

 

One pop girl in particular is known for it. It’s truly embarrassing & only shows people aren’t interested in the whole product.

How are Xtina’s streams in comparison?

idk if you think about it, back before streaming people used to buy albums for one song all the time

 

though it gets scammy when old ass songs start getting tacked onto albums to bump its numbers

14 minutes ago, Distantconstellation said:

I've seen a lot of people come for camila about this but yet I see this is the case with older divas too.

This only applies to albums from streaming age. What do older albums got to do with it? The successful albums already sold millions long time ago.

 

I know you're trying to drag but people sold albums differently back then. An album sold is an album unit sold even if they only listen to a few songs

 

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Just now, suburbannature said:

How are Xtina’s streams in comparison?

Comparison to whom? What are you talking about? 

Are we referring to Sam Smith's recent bomb?

Back in the day people used to buy a whole album just to get the hit single. So it's really no different. Streaming just lays it all bare and shows you what people are actually listening to. Then you have artists like Taylor or Bad Bunny where every single song is acting like a hit getting massive streams because their audience wants the entire project from them.

Do already successful albums need to be well streamed?  

I don’t think it’s fair to hold this standard for the older girls considering pushing singles was the standard for most of the industry for the longest time.

4 minutes ago, Protocol said:

Back in the day people used to buy a whole album just to get the hit single. So it's really no different. Streaming just lays it all bare and shows you what people are actually listening to. Then you have artists like Taylor or Bad Bunny where every single song is acting like a hit getting massive streams because their audience wants the entire project from them.

9 minutes ago, ddddynamite said:

This only applies to albums from streaming age. What do older albums got to do with it? The successful albums already sold millions long time ago.

 

I know you're trying to drag but people sold albums differently back then. An album sold is an album unit sold even if they only listen to a few songs

 

this tea

I would ask the inverse question in response actually - why do artists (as a swiftie, Taylor) get dragged for hits that plummet when their entire albums are streamed instead? That’s the same audience splitting the attention across multiple songs instead of just 1. 
 

I would say in this day and age, neither is more or less successful. If you have both then you’re killing it. But if you are a singles artist or albums artist, at the end of the day you’re getting the same coin per stream (except for the girlies who don’t have writing credits )

 

18 minutes ago, Terylee said:

I guess it is better if at least one song is carrying an album than none song at all.

 

8 minutes ago, Protocol said:

Back in the day people used to buy a whole album just to get the hit single. So it's really no different. Streaming just lays it all bare and shows you what people are actually listening to. Then you have artists like  Bad Bunny where every single song is acting like a hit getting massive streams because their audience wants the entire project from them.

fixed sis, bc one of these things is not like the others 

OP: So you're telling us that albums that sold +10M, 15M, 20M pure sales aren't successful because their streaming stats are based on the biggest single(s) from that album?

What is worse is when 70%+ of an artist’s streams come from features.  
 

I would say so yeah, cause said song is still coming from that album. In this day and age, not many people listen to albums in full so to take away anymore album metrics wouldnt really make sense. Plus singles are meant to push for album units, and even in cases like this that is happening. 

32 minutes ago, fauxtography said:

idk if you think about it, back before streaming people used to buy albums for one song all the time

Yes. It’s why acts active in a ‘Golden Era’ have such massive album sales. Even if they’re basically unknown now. Buying a single record made no sense as it was already fairy expensive (about 5 dollars for a single). Compared to spending 3x the money for a single to get 12x the content (full album). It always made sense to just get the album. Especially if you like that particular artist. 
 

Yes and no. For an depends on the overall streams and when it was released. For streaming era albums, yes. For older albums, no. 

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37 minutes ago, Protocol said:

Back in the day people used to buy a whole album just to get the hit single. So it's really no different. Streaming just lays it all bare and shows you what people are actually listening to. Then you have artists like Taylor or Bad Bunny where every single song is acting like a hit getting massive streams because their audience wants the entire project from them.

Period 

30 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

What is worse is when 70%+ of an artist’s streams come from features.  
 

 

Poor Camilla Cabelo and Bebe Rexha