Smarticle Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 Oh wow I thought there would be more acclaim for the next Phase
chris1991 Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 Marvel can’t make a decent film to save their life. They really just be throwing a bunch of ish together and hopes it works. They should really work on tightening scripts before even filming. Flop era!
wantedyoutogrow Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 who even thought of making another antman movie, like bffr
Solaria Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 GOOD. Get the superhero franchise thing OUT the door into the garbage and bring BACK 2000s romcoms! NO MORE SCI FI SUPERNATURAL FANTASY NONSENSE
GraceRandolph Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 Time works a little differently in the quantum realm, which may explain why the two-hour “Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania” lasts an eternity. To be sure, even as I entered the theater and took my seat, I found myself succumbing to a familiar, dread-soaked kind of temporal disorientation. Has it really been only three months since the last Marvel movie? And are there really just three months to go until the next one, and another three months until the one after that? Once you get sucked back into the Marvel Cinematic Universe — and the word “cinematic” feels more charitable with each repetition — time swiftly becomes a very flat and cruddy-looking CGI circle. - Justin Chang, Los Angeles Times
GraceRandolph Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 54 minutes ago, Rhythm said: It’s bizarre to me how strongly Hollywood is pushing this anti-Marvel agenda to the point where it almost seems taboo to enjoy the films openly anymore. I can definitely see the franchise falling out of grace completely over the next decade. It’s such misplaced disparagement and the discourse of the genre as a whole is petty and ridiculous enough to drive me to tears laughing. Don’t know if this one was genuinely sh*tty or not, but Eternals definitely didn’t deserve a rotten score. How? If anything critics have been excessively charitable with their RT scores over the last fourteen years.
Life Savers Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Time works a little differently in the quantum realm, which may explain why the two-hour “Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania” lasts an eternity. To be sure, even as I entered the theater and took my seat, I found myself succumbing to a familiar, dread-soaked kind of temporal disorientation. Has it really been only three months since the last Marvel movie? And are there really just three months to go until the next one, and another three months until the one after that? Once you get sucked back into the Marvel Cinematic Universe — and the word “cinematic” feels more charitable with each repetition — time swiftly becomes a very flat and cruddy-looking CGI circle. - Justin Chang, Los Angeles Times He went in
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted February 14, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Rhythm said: It’s bizarre to me how strongly Hollywood is pushing this anti-Marvel agenda to the point where it almost seems taboo to enjoy the films openly anymore. I can definitely see the franchise falling out of grace completely over the next decade. It’s such misplaced disparagement and the discourse of the genre as a whole is petty and ridiculous enough to drive me to tears laughing. Don’t know if this one was genuinely sh*tty or not, but Eternals definitely didn’t deserve a rotten score. It's not like Marvel hasn't had films that weren't as well received as other entries before, also their series are still getting acclaim so I don't think this is necessarily a 'Hollywood is pushing an agenda' type thing. I genuinely think it's more that these latest films seem more concerned with laying the groundwork for future entries than telling a compelling narrative themselves. I still greatly enjoy them, but if you're asking me if I felt like Multiverse of Madness, Love & Thunder, Eternals, and even Wakanda Forever (easily the strongest of the ones mentioned) have been as much fun to watch as earlier films I'd have to say no.
GraceRandolph Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 I wonder if this will fall below Eternals.
Donquizote Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 I wonder if this will be frontloaded at box office
johnzy13 Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 The first 2 Ant-man deserve the same score. One of the worse franchises around.
UnusualBoy Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 I mean when you see No Way Home got a 93% you know the critics are not to trust... that movie is not even an 80...
Roman Holiday Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said: I mean when you see No Way Home got a 93% you know the critics are not to trust... that movie is not even an 80... What No Way Home did has class to it. Marvel proper couldn’t recreate the magic with either MoM or Quantarama
WildAmerican Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 i could've told you this by looking at the trailer wild that this one probably isn't any worse than the first two, but the tides have turned against Marvel...
Rhythm Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said: How? If anything critics have been excessively charitable with their RT scores over the last fourteen years. 1 hour ago, Ampersand13 said: It's not like Marvel hasn't had films that weren't as well received as other entries before, also their series are still getting acclaim so I don't think this is necessarily a 'Hollywood is pushing an agenda' type thing. I genuinely think it's more that these latest films seem more concerned with laying the groundwork for future entries than telling a compelling narrative themselves. I still greatly enjoy them, but if you're asking me if I felt like Multiverse of Madness, Love & Thunder, Eternals, and even Wakanda Forever (easily the strongest of the ones mentioned) have been as much fun to watch as earlier films I'd have to say no. Of course. And the ones that were duds were absolutely that --- duds. They produced a handful of stinkers before they were finally able to devise a strong thread and learned their strengths. It was probably because I was reading this concurrently with the thing about Spielberg saying that Top Gun was "saving the industry" (obvious jab at the Marvel/sci-fi monopoly) and it struck me as what seems to be en vogue now. From my own standpoint, when you have a number of highly reputable players in the film industry consistently debasing a laughably inoffensive collection of films, you'd be hard-pressed to believe there isn't stronger discourse amongst their peers behind closed doors. But ehh, out loud it does sound more in the realm of conspiracy, so I'll digress. Marvel's sharp decline in quality over the last few years is pretty glaring, regardless.
Horizon Flame Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Love Again said: GOOD. Get the superhero franchise thing OUT the door into the garbage and bring BACK 2000s romcoms! NO MORE SCI FI SUPERNATURAL FANTASY NONSENSE 90s romcoms were better. I don’t think people are going to spend tons of money on tickets to see a romcom in a theater though.
Roman Holiday Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Ampersand13 said: It's not like Marvel hasn't had films that weren't as well received as other entries before, also their series are still getting acclaim so I don't think this is necessarily a 'Hollywood is pushing an agenda' type thing. I genuinely think it's more that these latest films seem more concerned with laying the groundwork for future entries than telling a compelling narrative themselves. I still greatly enjoy them, but if you're asking me if I felt like Multiverse of Madness, Love & Thunder, Eternals, and even Wakanda Forever (easily the strongest of the ones mentioned) have been as much fun to watch as earlier films I'd have to say no. They’ve flooded the market and taken all the fun out of the MCU tbh. It no longer feel cinematic, just like a really expensive cartoon. They put out way too many shows. WV and Loki were the only ones that felt pristine, the others felt cheap. And four movies a year on top of that is asking way too much of casual viewers
MAKSIM Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Gossip_Boy said: If it drops below flopternals… Love Jonathan but the trailer did not look all that promising if I’m being honest. Still watching for him tho. Someone needs to say it, but Jonathan Majors was hugely miscast because every time they’ve shown clips of him it always seems like he is really playing it up that he is some big bad.
JBJT2786 Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Da Vinci said: The conspiracy theory when Marvel had a whole decade of nonstop critical acclaim This is the reason why they're right. There's films from previous phases that deserved rotten scores ( Thor:Dark World, IM3 should've been in the 60s, Incredible Hulk, the previous 2 Antman movies) that now the critics seemed to be course correcting. If the audience score is good, I'm feeling people are gonna start to not rely on critics reviews anymore.
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