Sexyzinger Posted February 8, 2023 Author Posted February 8, 2023 For context, Howard praised Lizzo's performance in the same segment. Raved about her talent. He also cited a woman as the best performance of the night, Kacey Musgraves. @Walk_Away21
Walk_Away21 Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, Sexyzinger said: For context, Howard praised Lizzo's performance in the same segment. Raved about her talent. He also cited a woman as the best performance of the night, Kacey Musgraves. @Walk_Away21 The Beyhive in here saying Howard Stern is an incel when their fave literally just performed for homophobic royalty in a country where being gay is subject to imprisonment... And she didn't need that money since she's already rich AF. Make it make sense.
Sexyzinger Posted February 8, 2023 Author Posted February 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Walk_Away21 said: The Beyhive in here saying Howard Stern is an incel when their fave literally just performed for homophobic royalty in a country where being gay is subject to imprisonment... And she didn't need that money since she's already rich AF. Make it make sense. I can't make it make sense. It's Impossible.mp3 But that's the "Beyhive".
charot Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 19 hours ago, okgo said: Pls I don't believe he doesn't know one her songs for a sec He probably meant after 4.
TeamThiem Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 Howard Stern is so entertaining! Only reason I have Siriusxm still. One of the best interviewers: he makes people i typically find boring interesting.
Isaac19709 Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, MonsterOfFame said: Sorry, but I do see Howard Stern's point. Look at the cultural impact The Beatles still have: Everybody knows at least one of their songs, their music is still heard everywhere from stores, to commercials, to movies, to the radio. Beyoncé on the other hand, hasn't reached the same level of ubiquity. Do your aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. know who she is? Can someone you met on the street sing the chorus to one of her songs? I respect Beyoncé as an excellent performer and artist. But the level of "Queen Bey" that the music industry elevated her to does not match her actual status amongst the *general public.* They either care about new music or they don't though, if you don't then you don't really hear anything. I haven't heard a Dua Lipa song but I know she's huge. If you're interested in general then you've obviously heard Beyoncé songs, she's been releasing music since the 90s. They probably at the very least know Crazy in Love. I'm 25 and I can only think of one song by The Beatles because I didn't know anyone who was bothered about their music and I was never interested. Edited February 8, 2023 by Isaac19709
Istan4R Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 The guy that made fun of Selena and her fans when she died and played gunshots in the background? Ya he’s irrelevant. and I hate how people say “I don’t know this person, how did they win?” Like this isn’t a competition about who is the most famous. It’s about the quality of the work. It’s a self centered notion
swissman Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Walk_Away21 said: The Beyhive in here saying Howard Stern is an incel when their fave literally just performed for homophobic royalty in a country where being gay is subject to imprisonment... And she didn't need that money since she's already rich AF. Make it make sense. Of course you can't "make it make sense", you've compared two completely different things. The logic here is non-existent.
swissman Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, MonsterOfFame said: Sorry, but I do see Howard Stern's point. Look at the cultural impact The Beatles still have: Everybody knows at least one of their songs, their music is still heard everywhere from stores, to commercials, to movies, to the radio. Beyoncé on the other hand, hasn't reached the same level of ubiquity. Do your aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. know who she is? Can someone you met on the street sing the chorus to one of her songs? I respect Beyoncé as an excellent performer and artist. But the level of "Queen Bey" that the music industry elevated her to does not match her actual status amongst the *general public.* All of this is invalidated by the fact that I bet you couldn't even name a single song, album, or award won by the person whose record Beyoncé beat. Let alone name him without googling it. And if you can, you're one of the very few. So why does the complaint that there are more ubiquitous, deserving artists apply to only her? Awards are awards, and though a multitude of them can point to artistic worth, it doesn't mean that it's a perfect system of measurement. Each generation will have it biases, etc. There are tons of artists who deserve more Grammys. That doesn't mean others don't deserve their's too, unless they were directly competing in a category together. To say that Beyoncé hasn't reached the Beatles' level of ubiquity is kind of hilarious when asking if older people know Beyoncé. The Beatles are literally an older act, and plenty of older people know Beyoncé very well. Anyway, the award is not given thinking who will have more cultural ubiquity in 50 years...it's who in that moment was nominated, and who won. Any sort of comparing Beyoncé to others to make her seem less deserving is ridiculous. Edited February 8, 2023 by swissman
swissman Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 The fact of the matter is that Beyoncé is an artist who makes music that can compete in multiple genres thus be nominated in a great many more categories than certain other legends. And, being the premiere artist in some of those genres makes you an easy win much of the time, such as how Aretha generally swept her categories in the 1970s. To sit back and now compare [insert artist] and Beyoncé in an effort to diminish her wins is just bitter.
bad guy Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 He isn’t wrong when you realize truly legendary/influential acts like Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, Radiohead, The Cure, etc. have barely any accolades by the Grammy’s for their contribution to music so being confused about their choices is fair.
Pepo Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 Beyoncé >>>>>>> The Beatles and this loser's life
Rotunda Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 The ridiculousness of his argument aside, everyone knows that awards and accomplishments are contextual to the time period they happened in. You wouldn’t compare gymnasts in the 2020s to gymnasts in the 1960s. You don’t predict how state elections will go based on how that state voted in the 1970s. it’s hard to compare the records of artists who come up in wildly different climates.
swissman Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, bad guy said: He isn’t wrong when you realize truly legendary/influential acts like Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, Radiohead, The Cure, etc. have barely any accolades by the Grammy’s for their contribution to music so being confused about their choices is fair. But he actually is wrong. The Best Rock Performance, Best Rock Song and Best Rock categories album only started in 2012, 1992 and 1995 respectively. Therefore, during the heyday of most of those mentioned, their chances of a win were greatly diminished. So what is the solution? For the Grammy to retroactively award for each category? If one really cares about how many certain legends have over others, then this should be the cause, not trying to bring down other winners. Some of those mentioned did release after those categories were created, and they did get some nominations. If they didn't get a nomination or didn't win that's an issue within the category itself, not with how many Beyoncé has won in her categories. Keeping in mind that Beyoncé only has one main field win, to say she doesn't deserve the amount of awards she would be to say that she hasn't been one of the most prolific artists who has worked in the three genres of R&B and Hip-Hop and Pop. It would be more fair to compare her to those who qualify for the same categories she does such as Mary J. Blige or Mariah Carey rather than comparing her to rock bands from the 1970s-1990s. Edited February 8, 2023 by swissman
getinthezone Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 if he doesnt know a song how does she know she doesnt deserve the awards?
Archetype Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 Beyoncé has remained incredibly talented, acclaimed, and successful throughout her long and ongoing career. She deserves each and every Grammy she has ever won to this date no matter how overrated she is in the media. Howard is sexist af.
Lovett Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, spree said: He’s mostly right and you all know it. No, he's not. He's an incel and it's pretty telling to see which posters are the ones agreeing with him.
bad guy Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, swissman said: But he actually is wrong. The Best Rock Performance, Best Rock Song and Best Rock categories album only started in 2012, 1992 and 1995 respectively. Therefore, during the heyday of most of those mentioned, their chances of a win were greatly diminished. So what is the solution? For the Grammy to retroactively award for each category? If one really cares about how many certain legends have over others, then this should be the cause, not trying to bring down other winners. Some of those mentioned did release after those categories were created, and they did get some nominations. If they didn't get a nomination or didn't win that's an issue within the category itself, not with how many Beyoncé has won in her categories. Keeping in mind that Beyoncé only has one main field win, to say she doesn't deserve the amount of awards she would be to say that she hasn't been one of the most prolific artists who has worked in the three genres of R&B and Hip-Hop and Pop. It would be more fair to compare her to those who qualify for the same categories she does such as Mary J. Blige or Mariah Carey rather than comparing her to rock bands from the 1970s-1990s. But most people don’t know that. And I agree that it isn’t Beyoncé’s fault, my point was that it’s just not surprising to see older people complain about this.
perfect blue Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 Correct, we're all tired of the performative Beyonce praise.
spree Posted February 9, 2023 Posted February 9, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 5:37 PM, Relampago. said: The Beatles wish they had a 1/4th of Bey’s talent you can't be implying Sir Paul McCartney and John Lennon are inferior to Beyonce?
Relampago. Posted February 9, 2023 Posted February 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, spree said: you can't be implying Sir Paul McCartney and John Lennon are inferior to Beyonce? I would never pay to see them perform ever especially not John Lennon the known abuser Meanwhile, I’m hoping that I can secure tix to the Renaissance tour!
swissman Posted February 9, 2023 Posted February 9, 2023 3 hours ago, getinthezone said: if he doesnt know a song how does she know she doesnt deserve the awards? This!
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