HASHTAGPOW Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 No lies spotted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 It's crazy that it's been almost 5 years since she broke through but it still feels like she's stuck in new artist purgatory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Stratus Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 11 hours ago, State of Grace. said: There's some truth to it because that era didnt have many big loud 2009'd choruses like SBP, but also a kii because there were several pop hits too lol I think she spilt, everything was 'omi cheerleader'd'... girls were flat out disappearing cause of the horrible 'dance = faceless, or RnB/ballad!' environment Then Ava went IN with this euro-pop dark gaga thing. Even miley and gaga weren't stupid enough to not do some yeeh-haw pop with a male as backup, Bey was jumping on remxies with men. Ava took on pop and stared it in the face (and yes dua was there too but she was cool and trendy so that helped) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbsparce Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 She's right. Weren't 2017-2018 some of the worst years for female pop? I remember there were multiple weeks with no females at all in the top 10 and even when that happened it wasn't with a bubblegummy pop song like SBS. I don't know if it 'paved the way' necessarily but it was definitely one of the first big pop songs after a long period of drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaws Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 14 hours ago, Supervillain said: The truth was said by her. Sure. And Tinashe is the queen of pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 17 hours ago, dangerousalex said: “I’m like, ‘God, please, if you’re listening. I need to pay for my gas. 17 hours ago, dangerousalex said: “‘Sweet but Psycho’ kind of paved the way for pop music again,” cringe after cringe 17 hours ago, Lorde Von Vok said: perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellem Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Didn’t she say this years ago Why do they keep asking her/why is she still saying this during her second album cycle? Edited January 25, 2023 by tellem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 15 hours ago, The Second Coming said: The nerve well, at least you can give her kudos for even mimicking the out of touch arrogance as her former manufactured dance act, Party City embassador inspiration. 14 hours ago, Ewan Chaos said: She's wrong, but she should say it (for our entertainment) 16 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said: It didn't even paved your way sis wdym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cOe Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 She's right doe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVY Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Not with that generic dated **** she has released. Edited January 25, 2023 by IVY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVY Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. Stratus said: I think she spilt, everything was 'omi cheerleader'd'... girls were flat out disappearing cause of the horrible 'dance = faceless, or RnB/ballad!' environment Then Ava went IN with this euro-pop dark gaga thing. Even miley and gaga weren't stupid enough to not do some yeeh-haw pop with a male as backup, Bey was jumping on remxies with men. Ava took on pop and stared it in the face (and yes dua was there too but she was cool and trendy so that helped) But she didn't pave the way for anything, she just had a cute little hit with a very dated sound and that's it. And like you said Dua was already doing it in a much bigger way and more successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorjesspazze9 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 It wasn’t even the biggest pop song that year. But it was a good pop record and she is one of the few pop girlies that had an actual catchy chorus, instead of the same trap pop hybrid songs we were getting so I’ll let her have her moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enchanted0 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 She should've paved the way for her own career instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 The Gaga of her time spilled the tea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Body Talk Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Was SBP before New Rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 7:21 PM, PoisonPill said: It's crazy that it's been almost 5 years since she broke through but it still feels like she's stuck in new artist purgatory Agreed. I don't really get her - she seems very industry plant-esque, no discerning personality, hasn't really established herself as anything unique. To me, she's a fun and beautiful but utterly replacable generic pop star. Like if you asked an AI to create a 2020s blonde popstar influenced by Gaga, Madonna with the kind of expected voice of someone featuring on a Calvin Harris or Cheat Codes feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonX Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 What songs exactly did she inspire? What pop songs took off because of Ava? she had a cute little pop hit but that’s it. She didn’t inspire anyone. She didn’t start any trends and she certainly didn’t bring pop back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameraFlashes Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 what kind of people would relate to her music with those lyrical contents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourcloud Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 She saved pop music once with Sweet but Psycho. She saved pop music for the second time with Ghost. Catch the tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bliaz Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Thank you, Ava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokichi Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 She didn't lie tho thank you for saving Europe Miss Ava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckythisway Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I mean SBP was the first pure pop WW smash in a while. NTLTC can be argued, but Sweetener went way more into trap/R&B than the Euro-Pop sound of SBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 new rules sweetie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator madonnas Posted January 27, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted January 27, 2023 She spilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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