Alfred Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Schami66 said: It's not because of Dr. Luke... Or at least not officially. Even Coconuts, Future Starts Now + Slutpop we're done with Luke. the quality dipped before she stopped working with him. In my opinion it first started when Doja got big. I think he stopped really co-writing/working with Kim back then and just slapped his name over the songs after that. (this is pure fan-fiction, no tea) We had I Don't Want It At All, Hillside Boys, Heart To Break etc. etc., Halloween Stuff and all that music SCREAMS Dr. Luke -> Doja get's big, has a few songs co-written by Luke and BOOM Kims music starts to decline... Am I making **** up??? Interesting theory that makes sense. In 2017 Luke and Kim were creating a passion project. He was still an outcast from the music industry and got to develop this new artist and have a purely great time making the most unabashed pop music. No distractions. Era 1 is Kim's best because it was a fusion of her vocal ability with Luke's pop production. Her tone is made for pop music, especially with Luke. It was his time to flex his pop making skills with an artist who was just as eager to make those huge songs. Both each other's muses. Glittery synths, soaring adlibs, explosive last choruses, funky breakdowns, vocoder, layered vocals, etc. It had it all. As time went on and Kim became a prospective major label artist around 2020, the focus shifted and expectations changed. Problematique was an album made with a major label in mind. She started recording it before officially signing to Republic in 2021 but you know conversations had already begun. Sadly the pandemic I think also affected things for obvious reasons. There was less charisma and innovation as Era 1/Clarity/ToTL bc the music making had less novelty. They were maybe too conscious of her sound, how she might be perceived now that she was about to not be indie anymore, etc. That's just my theory at least. Problematique has standouts for sure (ASW is brilliant, FSN and Coconuts are pretty great, Deeper has huge potential) but as an overall project it felt flat. So between this and Luke possibly shifting his focus on the artists who were making him money & putting him on the charts again, it might explain the "dip" in quality. 43 minutes ago, Freaky Prince said: Apparently HIFTB isnt on the album That "leaked" tracklist is fake. So we don't know if HIFTB is or isn't on the album. Edited February 25, 2023 by Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Prince Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alfred said: Interesting theory that makes sense. In 2017 Luke and Kim were creating a passion project. He was still an outcast from the music industry and got to develop this new artist and have a purely great time making the most unabashed pop music. No distractions. Era 1 is Kim's best because it was a fusion of her vocal ability with Luke's pop production. Her tone is made for pop music, especially with Luke. It was his time to flex his pop making skills with an artist who was just as eager to make those huge songs. Both each other's muses. Glittery synths, soaring adlibs, explosive last choruses, funky breakdowns, vocoder, layered vocals, etc. It had it all. As time went on and Kim became a prospective major label artist around 2020, the focus shifted and expectations changed. Problematique was an album made with a major label in mind. She started recording it before officially signing to Republic in 2021 but you know conversations had already begun. Sadly the pandemic I think also affected things for obvious reasons. There was less charisma and innovation as Era 1/Clarity/ToTL bc the music making had less novelty. They were maybe too conscious of her sound, how she might be perceived now that she was about to not be indie anymore, etc. That's just my theory at least. Problematique has standouts for sure (ASW is brilliant, FSN and Coconuts are pretty great, Deeper has huge potential) but as an overall project it felt flat. So between this and Luke possibly shifting his focus on the artists who were making him money & putting him on the charts again, it might explain the "dip" in quality. That "leaked" tracklist is fake. So we don't know if HIFTB is or isn't on the album. Isnt it from BOZ's lastfm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stjosephprey4us Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Freaky Prince said: Isnt it from BOZ's lastfm? What is his lastfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Freaky Prince said: Isnt it from BOZ's lastfm? Nope. This user: Edited February 25, 2023 by Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Enrique523 said: Fair enough. Brrr has been out for over a month and people are still not sure about this? What do you mean? She literally released an entire album (**** pop) and didnt even promote it. Also what about if jesus was a rockstar? You clearly dont know anything about her pattern of releasing random singles then abandoning them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Prince Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Alfred said: Nope. This user: Nnn good, still hope IJWAR and Brrr are just standalone singles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Helios said: What do you mean? She literally released an entire album (**** pop) and didnt even promote it. Also what about if jesus was a rockstar? You clearly dont know anything about her pattern of releasing random singles then abandoning them. I honestly would've thought things would be different post-Unholy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: I honestly would've thought things would be different post-Unholy I mean, the clownery here. Republic really said keep promoting Unholy until we tell you otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefertiti0 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Freaky Prince said: Nnn good, still hope IJWAR and Brrr are just standalone singles IJWAR only gets 14k streams daily and brrr around 42k so these won't help album but i think her label may want her to put Unholy on album. it will still get 1-2M streams around the summer. Edited February 25, 2023 by Nefertiti0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryoncé Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Enrique523 said: This is entirely an opinion. The only correct opinion … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryoncé Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Alfred said: Interesting theory that makes sense. In 2017 Luke and Kim were creating a passion project. He was still an outcast from the music industry and got to develop this new artist and have a purely great time making the most unabashed pop music. No distractions. Era 1 is Kim's best because it was a fusion of her vocal ability with Luke's pop production. Her tone is made for pop music, especially with Luke. It was his time to flex his pop making skills with an artist who was just as eager to make those huge songs. Both each other's muses. Glittery synths, soaring adlibs, explosive last choruses, funky breakdowns, vocoder, layered vocals, etc. It had it all. As time went on and Kim became a prospective major label artist around 2020, the focus shifted and expectations changed. Problematique was an album made with a major label in mind. She started recording it before officially signing to Republic in 2021 but you know conversations had already begun. Sadly the pandemic I think also affected things for obvious reasons. There was less charisma and innovation as Era 1/Clarity/ToTL bc the music making had less novelty. They were maybe too conscious of her sound, how she might be perceived now that she was about to not be indie anymore, etc. That's just my theory at least. Problematique has standouts for sure (ASW is brilliant, FSN and Coconuts are pretty great, Deeper has huge potential) but as an overall project it felt flat. So between this and Luke possibly shifting his focus on the artists who were making him money & putting him on the charts again, it might explain the "dip" in quality. That "leaked" tracklist is fake. So we don't know if HIFTB is or isn't on the album. This breakdown is so spot on her era 1 music was some of the best pop music ever crafted … like you said, it had it all. i do feel like there must be a complex reason as to why the quality has fallen so much and I feel like ur breakdown is on the right track literally I would do anything to have another era 1 type vibe except WITH the full label funding — she would be unstoppable with that level quality music and real marketing and label support to get it the exposure it deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alfred Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Nefertiti0 said: Kinda interesting that this major label journey started off with Kim onstage with lots of dancers. That was the new thing. Now they've scaled back and it's just her which I can appreciate. But these brrr performances also feel a bit stiff/flat. I'm not sure the song translates the best to a live setting tbh. I hope we get something upbeat for the next single. We need a summery bop a la Coconuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tistotal Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 12 hours ago, Nefertiti0 said: She slayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEAVYONIT Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Did she lip sync? That was one of the better vocals I’ve heard from her in awhile. Still awkward af on stage sometimes but getting better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oshyms Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Black Jesus said: Did she lip sync? That was one of the better vocals I’ve heard from her in awhile. Still awkward af on stage sometimes but getting better! i highly doubt it, i do think the audio sounds really clear, but she’s actually one of those artist who vocally sounds better live than in studio in my opinion. if you’ve seen her live you’ll know…. her recent output including this song is just so so bad idk how yous are still supporting. happy for her success but jheeeesh Edited March 3, 2023 by oshyms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefertiti0 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 46,665(+7,745) streams yesterday If Jesus Was A Rockstar needs 61 streams to reach 4M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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