Roman Holiday Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) And how should they fix it? No film crossed 1 billion this year, even the highly anticipated BP sequel. The D+ plus shows have been flops with viewers and received mediocre reviews. Their upcoming slate looks a bit messy too. Is Kevin Feige in her flop era? Will Phase 5 be his Joanne? Edited December 26, 2022 by Roman Holiday
Jaguarqueef Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Overexposed, simple as that. also, no support from China. Pumping content non stop since Endgame w no breaks to fester anticipation from their audience.
Gorjesspazze9 Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) Marvel made $3 Billion this fisical year alone💀🤣 and have 3 of the top 10 films of the year🤷♀️ and make 30% off of Spider-Man NWH that came out barely a year ago and is one of the biggest films of all time. Marvel is fine, and most of thier Disney+ shows are certified fresh and have great critic review scores. Also thier future outlook is highly anticipated, especially compared to other film franchises like Star Wars, DC, Ect. Edited December 25, 2022 by Gorjesspazze9
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 The multiverse stuff being in every single marvel movie is where I mentally checked out. It seems like they can pick & choose what plot points are permanent vs what can be reversed in a different timeline or what not.
Katy V.! Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Thor did (barely) ok numbers for a Thor movie without China. Doctor Strange did HUGE numbers for a Doctor Strange movie, it's on par with peak Marvel considering it didn't have China. Black Panther did amazing given it lost its lead. They cannot do Avengers numbers for their B-tier (or even C-tier) characters each time without an overarching narrative boosting their hype. That's just not realistic. They do need to be worried about L&T reception, though.
BOOMBAYAH Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 There only hope now is X-Men, I fear. I use to not miss a single MCU project, now I just don't care. I didn't even see BP until like the second week.
Mister Gaga Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Katy V.! said: Black Panther did amazing Did it? It's barely crossing 800M. Last one made 1.35B. It's a drop of 41%. It's quite brutal. In the US it did ok, but overseas it underperformed significantly.
Johnny Jacobs Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Yes and i have a feeling the new avengers movies are going to be their Joanne
est. in 90s Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 When they ventured into television, it helped accelerate the overexposure to me. Keeping up with the movies is one thing, but a new Disney/MCU+ show announced every other month on some random comic book character somehow connected to the rest of the shared universe or phase is content overload, imo.
JonginBey Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Marvel made billions. ARTPOP lost millions
Bhabylon Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 Audiences are over it. Black Panther 2 was always going to do well, but aside from that… they don’t have their roster of heroes people actually care about. Like we went from having Captain America, Iron Man to these random non-factors. The writing and quality is also down the toilet, appealing to the lowest common denominator of audience. I’d say BP2 and maybe NWH are the only recent exceptions. They also have no plan. Compare that to the previous phases, which were all leading up to something. These are much more disjointed. Look at the success of Top Gun 2 — people are tired of these stale MCU films. Nothing wrong with them, but they’re like the McDonalds of film
WEEKND Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 48 minutes ago, Bhabylon said: Audiences are over it. Black Panther 2 was always going to do well, but aside from that… they don’t have their roster of heroes people actually care about. Like we went from having Captain America, Iron Man to these random non-factors. The writing and quality is also down the toilet, appealing to the lowest common denominator of audience. I’d say BP2 and maybe NWH are the only recent exceptions. They also have no plan. Compare that to the previous phases, which were all leading up to something. These are much more disjointed. Look at the success of Top Gun 2 — people are tired of these stale MCU films. Nothing wrong with them, but they’re like the McDonalds of film All of this
Taylena Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Mister Gaga said: Did it? It's barely crossing 800M. Last one made 1.35B. It's a drop of 41%. It's quite brutal. Every movie is down after the pandemic and Black Panther 1 had the hype of being the movie leading up to Avengers Infinity War.
OnlyManInTheWorld Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 2 hours ago, est. in 90s said: When they ventured into television, it helped accelerate the overexposure to me. Keeping up with the movies is one thing, but a new Disney/MCU+ show announced every other month on some random comic book character somehow connected to the rest of the shared universe or phase is content overload, imo. .
GraceRandolph Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Taylena said: Every movie is down after the pandemic and Black Panther 1 had the hype of being the movie leading up to Avengers Infinity War. BP2 should have crossed 1B be real.
Taylena Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: BP2 should have crossed 1B be real. Only 3 movies crossed 1B post COVID pandemic: Spider-Man, Jurassic World and Top Gun. MCU movie still the highest grossing one almost hitting 2B, Top Gun basking on the nostalgia of the first movie and Jurassic World barely hitching past 1B. BP2 is just another MCU movie and it would've been close if it had a China release.
GraceRandolph Posted December 25, 2022 Posted December 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Taylena said: Only 3 movies crossed 1B post COVID pandemic: Spider-Man, Jurassic World and Top Gun. MCU movie still the highest grossing one almost hitting 2B, Top Gun basking on the nostalgia of the first movie and Jurassic World barely hitching past 1B. BP2 is just another MCU movie and it would've been close if it had a China release. They need to figure out the China situation. BP2 still didn’t even crack 900M, and sequels are supposed to improve on their predecessor’s box office returns.
Virgos Groove Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 3 hours ago, est. in 90s said: When they ventured into television, it helped accelerate the overexposure to me. Keeping up with the movies is one thing, but a new Disney/MCU+ show announced every other month on some random comic book character somehow connected to the rest of the shared universe or phase is content overload, imo. This. Back then, all we had to do was drag ourselves to the cinema three times a year, and the worst case scenario was a mid movie that was still important to the timeline. Now, there's always something being released and the quality control has declined completely. Overall, they're not flopping, but they're in their post-peak era. They can still generate excitement with the right movies (Black Panther 2, for example), but it's not like pre-2020 when everything they did was a moment.
Roman Holiday Posted December 26, 2022 Author Posted December 26, 2022 15 hours ago, ATWK said: This. Back then, all we had to do was drag ourselves to the cinema three times a year, and the worst case scenario was a mid movie that was still important to the timeline. Now, there's always something being released and the quality control has declined completely. Overall, they're not flopping, but they're in their post-peak era. They can still generate excitement with the right movies (Black Panther 2, for example), but it's not like pre-2020 when everything they did was a moment. They definitely cheapened the brand with all the D+ content, same for Star Wars. They should have done 2 shows a year tops. And nobody cares about Moonlnight, Ms Marvel etc. we want characters like Wanda and Loki.
orange22 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 20 hours ago, BOOMBAYAH said: There only hope now is X-Men, I fear. I use to not miss a single MCU project, now I just don't care. I didn't even see BP until like the second week.
zzmyth Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 16 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: They need to figure out the China situation. BP2 still didn’t even crack 900M, and sequels are supposed to improve on their predecessor’s box office returns. you do realize that the main character of the first film DIED right? I mean what are you gonna improve when the person behind the franchise is no longer? The film is at 800M and will end close to 850M... definitely would've done 1B with China and Russia. Cinema grosses are definitely on the low... and people with the pandemic changed their habits drastically. you can't say that a film that ended being one of the 25 biggest grosses ever in the US and will end up around #89-#91 all time WW is an underperforance... that is not realistic. They cannot be pulling avengers 2B grosses with every film...
Arcadius Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 I think the shows kinda cheapened them a bit. Nothing has been able to top Wandavision and all the shows this year have felt like CW quality shows especially She-Hulk.
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