discussion Sec. of Transport Pete on sick leave: "Not everybody [can get] what they wanted"

[Communion]

 

[Archetype]

This is the problem with issuing contracts out to companies that don't want to take care of their employees.  Rail road workers are not federal or state employees so they are sadly at the mercy of their private employer.  The govt could/should threaten to not renew contracts with companies that don't include paid sick leave for their employees.  Least likely scenario is they nationalize rail (which would actually be a net positive but far fetched).

Edited December 3, 2022 by Archetype

[JustLikeHoney]

He literally said every American deserves paid sick leave. 

 

We cannot force corporations to give paid sick leave or "make them look like bad guys." We would be no better than China. The only reason the gov't even got involved in this labor dispute is because it would be catastrophic to the U.S. economy  If you want paid sick leave stop voting senate Republicans. Stop leaving the decisions to Manchin and Sinema. 

 

Jack Tapper is a tool. 

[Communion]

8 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

We cannot force corporations to give paid sick leave

You... don't know what you're talking about.

 

1) It is quite literally a power of the legislative body to make laws requiring companies offer paid sick leave.

 

2) Congress literally voted via powers they gave themselves over airways and railways over 100 years ago and in that vote forced the railway workers to end their strike they were holding in order to demand paid sick leave - ending the strike without guaranteeing the sick leave via law.

 

How do you feel so confident defending Democrats on a topic you demonstratively don't understand?

Edited December 3, 2022 by Communion

[JustLikeHoney]

6 minutes ago, Communion said:

You... don't know what you're talking about.

 

1) It is quite literally a power of the legislative body to make laws requiring companies offer paid sick leave.

 

2) Congress literally voted via powers they gave themselves over airways and railways over 100 years ago and in that vote forced the railway workers to end their strike they were holding in order to demand paid sick leave - ending the strike without guaranteeing the sick leave via law.

 

How do you feel so confident defending Democrats on a topic you demonstratively don't understand?

Girl stop. Like I said their would be no interference in the strike if it wasn't the fact that it would collapse the economy. 

 

I've talked before to you. You arent even American.

[Communion]

2 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

if it wasn't the fact that it would collapse the economy

What? 

 

That makes it worse that Congress views itself as having he right to bust the most powerful unions in the country.  The airline union coming together and threatening to strike was literally what made Republicans under Trump fold on shutting down the government. You can't praise them when they wield power against Trump but then bash them when they recognize their power is so big its disruptive and defend Dems. 

 

4 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

You arent even American.

Do you think "NJ" stands for Nachfolger Jahresabschlussland? 

[JustLikeHoney]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

What? 

 

That makes it worse that Congress views itself as having he right to bust the most powerful unions in the country.  The airline union coming together and threatening to strike was literally what made Republicans under Trump fold on shutting down the government. You can't praise them when they wield power against Trump but then bash them when they recognize their power is so big its disruptive and defend Dems. 

 

Do you think "NJ" stands for Nachfolger Jahresabschlussland? 

The unions agreed to the deal. It's the workers that don't want the deal. The gov't just forced the workers to accept the deal the union made. They aren't making a deal on behalf of the company or the union. Just enforcing a deal that was already made. 

 

Girl we've had this conversation years ago maybe on another fan site, but you aren't American or maybe someone similar to your name. You're a huge Bernie stan if I remember correctly. 

[Communion]

3 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

The unions agreed to the deal

No, they literally did not. Congress literally intervened because the workers were deciding to strike - something they could do and were prepping to do because the 4 union groups who struck down the original deal represent over a majority of all railroad workers. 

 

11 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

or maybe someone similar to your name

So not only does liberal derangement syndrome make you defend union busters like Pete Buttigieg but also now spread fake news cause you think you saw someone with a similar username on another site? 

[MAKSIM]

Bffr, the government wasn’t going to let railways strike right before Christmas  

 

The deal is good with the exception of paid sick leave, which there should be a mandatory floor for all businesses anyway. No reason that there should be 5 paid sick days given to all employees of any business. 

[Mean Trees]

48 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

He literally said every American deserves paid sick leave. 

 

We cannot force corporations to give paid sick leave or "make them look like bad guys." We would be no better than China. The only reason the gov't even got involved in this labor dispute is because it would be catastrophic to the U.S. economy  If you want paid sick leave stop voting senate Republicans. Stop leaving the decisions to Manchin and Sinema. 

 

Jack Tapper is a tool. 

Oh no! Big Business who exploit and treat their workers like crap would be forced to act in the best interest of the workers would be like CHINA?? Oh no! I...

[Archetype]

58 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

 

We cannot force corporations to give paid sick leave or "make them look like bad guys."

Yes we can, and any company that doesn't offer paid sick leave SHOULD be made to look like a bad entity not worthy of working with.  Like I said in my post before, the govt shouldn't renew contract with any company that does not offer basic necessities, such as sick leave, to employees.  Another user mentioned that the govt could literally force private companies to offer sick leave as well if they really wanted.  

 

Also, Biden saying he thinks all Americans should get paid sick leave is a convenient way to look good without actually doing anything for the rail workers who are now prevented from striking by the very govt that should be protecting them.  

[Archetype]

58 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

 

We cannot force corporations to give paid sick leave or "make them look like bad guys."

Yes we can, and any company that doesn't offer paid sick leave SHOULD be made to look like a bad entity not worthy of working with.  Like I said in my post before, the govt shouldn't renew contract with any company that does not offer basic necessities, such as sick leave, to employees.  Another user mentioned that the govt could literally force private companies to offer sick leave as well if they really wanted.  

 

Also, Biden saying he thinks all Americans should get paid sick leave is a convenient way to look good without actually doing anything for the rail workers who are now prevented from striking by the very govt that should be protecting them.  

[Archetype]

58 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

 

We cannot force corporations to give paid sick leave or "make them look like bad guys."

Yes we can, and any company that doesn't offer paid sick leave SHOULD be made to look like a bad entity not worthy of working with.  Like I said in my post before, the govt shouldn't renew contract with any company that does not offer basic necessities, such as sick leave, to employees.  Another user mentioned that the govt could literally force private companies to offer sick leave as well if they really wanted.  

 

Also, Biden saying he thinks all Americans should get paid sick leave is a convenient way to look good without actually doing anything for the rail workers who are now prevented from striking by the very govt that should be protecting them.  

[Bloodflowers.]

Not private business having more power over people who store law and order in a country that should benefit the people Pete is so useless 

[Taylena]

7 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said:

He literally said every American deserves paid sick leave. 

 

We cannot force corporations to give paid sick leave or "make them look like bad guys." We would be no better than China. The only reason the gov't even got involved in this labor dispute is because it would be catastrophic to the U.S. economy

Not the shameless pivoting to China as if the entire developed world don't have mandatory sick leave payment. The US is the only developed country that doesn't offer any guaranteed sick days.

[katara]

These threads about USA struggling with basic worker rights Europe has had for decades are so redundant.

 

That third world country should FINALLY strive to keep up with real progressive countries. 

[MonsterJohn]

US is such a shithole like

[Scars]

10 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said:

We cannot force corporations to give paid sick leave or "make them look like bad guys." We would be no better than China. The only reason the gov't even got involved in this labor dispute is because it would be catastrophic to the U.S. economy  If you want paid sick leave stop voting senate Republicans. Stop leaving the decisions to Manchin and Sinema. 

This reads like satire.