liquiddiamonds Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Somebody pleaseeee make some cliffs in the spoiler tab for us that won’t have the time for now to watch. Selenatoooooors plsss come thru
Souvenir Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 This is so beautiful, she is such a strong person. I love her and now i respect her even more. I really want her to be happy.
Exzime. Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 The documentary is okay. I just don't like the white savior trope , very typical celebrity documentary with classic arc.
davorincek Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Exzime. said: The documentary is okay. I just don't like the white savior trope , very typical celebrity documentary with classic arc. I agree. I think she is a nice person, that went through some sh!!t... and still struggles sometimes and thats okay. Her message is good. Just the way the film was made was very typical "I struggle being famous"
chris1991 Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 From the clips I’ve seen online, all her issues seem like 1st world ones . Oh poor you, reporters were asking repetitive questions, keep being up tabloid etc. The mind is a very dangerous place, while these issues seem small there is prob something a lot deeper happening within herself. I get it sis.
#Beautiful Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 this was very beautiful. i was in tears because the ending is bittersweet
Selenasworld Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 2 hours ago, chris1991 said: From the clips I’ve seen online, all her issues seem like 1st world ones . Oh poor you, reporters were asking repetitive questions, keep being up tabloid etc. The mind is a very dangerous place, while these issues seem small there is prob something a lot deeper happening within herself. I get it sis. 2 hours ago, davorincek said: I agree. I think she is a nice person, that went through some sh!!t... and still struggles sometimes and thats okay. Her message is good. Just the way the film was made was very typical "I struggle being famous" Everyone struggles that's not the message, also her struggles are more than just mentally she is literally suffering the worst autoimmune disease and still she didn't got clout of that and she could have done it
Exzime. Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Selenasworld said: Everyone struggles that's not the message, also her struggles are more than just mentally she is literally suffering the worst autoimmune disease and still she didn't got clout of that and she could have done it I feel sorry for her but at the same time, even as a fan, if anything, the documentary is showing how she is literally getting first class treatment, sleeping in five stars hotel, having private consultation with the best of the best doctors with them on speed dial, having entourage sending and following her + getting her food, flying private and certainly do not need to worry about paying medical bills. As seen on documentary, she also can choose to go to another country to take a mental health break, its a luxury that most sick people do not have. I understand that she is trying to convey certain message, but this documentary is out of touch with reality.
hardbrit Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Exzime. said: I feel sorry for her but at the same time, even as a fan, if anything, the documentary is showing how she is literally getting first class treatment, sleeping in five stars hotel, having private consultation with the best of the best doctors with them on speed dial, having entourage sending and following her + getting her food, flying private and certainly do not need to worry about paying medical bills. As seen on documentary, she also can choose to go to another country to take a mental health break, its a luxury that most sick people do not have. I understand that she is trying to convey certain message, but this documentary is out of touch with reality. Someone needed to say it.
genetic fail Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Exzime. said: I feel sorry for her but at the same time, even as a fan, if anything, the documentary is showing how she is literally getting first class treatment, sleeping in five stars hotel, having private consultation with the best of the best doctors with them on speed dial, having entourage sending and following her + getting her food, flying private and certainly do not need to worry about paying medical bills. As seen on documentary, she also can choose to go to another country to take a mental health break, its a luxury that most sick people do not have. I understand that she is trying to convey certain message, but this documentary is out of touch with reality. This is definitely a valid point. The Kenya stuff also felt a little exploitative. I mean, the clip where they were having so much fun during the flood was really out of touch. The locals probably have a very different experience from that flood. But I'm not gonna lie, I shed a tear or two.
DuffStan Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 The documentary is powerful in a way. It made me question some stuff going on in my life. For instance, Selena seems to be looking for a meaning because she feels like her main job doesn’t have any, that it’s superficial. Yes some of the her problems seem very celebrity-like but she wasn’t born rich and we see that. She seems to have struggled to know who she wants to be as a person + fighting a disease, very public relationship ups and downs, etc.
Selenasworld Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Exzime. said: I feel sorry for her but at the same time, even as a fan, if anything, the documentary is showing how she is literally getting first class treatment, sleeping in five stars hotel, having private consultation with the best of the best doctors with them on speed dial, having entourage sending and following her + getting her food, flying private and certainly do not need to worry about paying medical bills. As seen on documentary, she also can choose to go to another country to take a mental health break, its a luxury that most sick people do not have. I understand that she is trying to convey certain message, but this documentary is out of touch with reality. What did you expected celebrities A class singers and actors won't live like poor people, again you are loosing the point, this documentary started filming in 2016 Selena's attitude has changed she was close to die multiple times, she didn't show her transplant to get clout, she has shown everyone struggles behind a happy face, you lost the point of Selena's actual work as a spokesperson of WE collecting millions on what Selena though was right, she created a found of 100M dollars and went to the white hose to make her dream true, as I said she could have used this for sympathy if you don't like to see how thew rich live is your problem
chosensparkles Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Exzime. said: I feel sorry for her but at the same time, even as a fan, if anything, the documentary is showing how she is literally getting first class treatment, sleeping in five stars hotel, having private consultation with the best of the best doctors with them on speed dial, having entourage sending and following her + getting her food, flying private and certainly do not need to worry about paying medical bills. As seen on documentary, she also can choose to go to another country to take a mental health break, its a luxury that most sick people do not have. I understand that she is trying to convey certain message, but this documentary is out of touch with reality. Kenya was vacation? no she literally went there to volunteer and see the schools and programs created by the WE organizations girl is doing way more than most of her peers when it comes to philanthropy and she has done since her early days in this industry 15 hours ago, hardbrit said: Someone needed to say it. yet y'all will beg for people to have sympathy for what Britney went through when some non celebs go through the same treatment she did and yet don't have the public coverage to get out of their nightmares nor the money to hire legal teams to fight back after...
gagacasanova Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 So proud of her mental health is very important to me and im glad she is using her platform to discuss this topic
Ivan_brit Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) I just saw it! Im actually sad.... I like Selena Ive never been a hige fan. The Revival tour OMG!!! the way I think overall everyone loved that era, It was loved here in ATRL & she totally was not into it I loved how they show up the part of Selena being tired of her name automatically attanched to Bierber or Disney, Im so happy they show up this parts Soooo basically the AMAs performance well.... she was not ready DAMN!!! the way London & Paris Rare promo was a complete disaster.... I feel bad I remember calling her Lazy & that type of stuff since she was not doing tooo much for the album but this was kind of shooking & sad to see Anyway the documental overall is good. I really really hope she is doing a lot better this year Something that I was surprised is .... WHere is Selena Family??? why they never appeared on the docu?? Edited November 6, 2022 by Ivan_brit
ariananext Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 The doc is so good, as someone who lived with a bipolar person it was a bit triggering in some parts, which shows they did a good job at representing how it feels. At the same time it wasn't disturbing for younger/more sensitive people, seeing as some people didn't realize where her disorder was coming out (es when she was being a diva/bitchy to her friend). I agree with the general opinion that it should've been much longer. It wouldn't be an issue if nothing happened in those years, but they were crucial, so the time jump wasn't great. It was nice that she showed a more raw side of her as she's always been one of the most composed/private celebrities on some aspects.
Mydilemma2.0 Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 2:57 AM, Exzime. said: I feel sorry for her but at the same time, even as a fan, if anything, the documentary is showing how she is literally getting first class treatment, sleeping in five stars hotel, having private consultation with the best of the best doctors with them on speed dial, having entourage sending and following her + getting her food, flying private and certainly do not need to worry about paying medical bills. As seen on documentary, she also can choose to go to another country to take a mental health break, its a luxury that most sick people do not have. I understand that she is trying to convey certain message, but this documentary is out of touch with reality. This tbh. But I think if they had showed what truly happened during 2017-2018 we would get a bigger meaning on how "money cant cure happiness" kind of sense. I do think that doco is touching and it is sad, but nonetheless I think Selena lost her spirit over the years, I actually think that the fact she was crying about not being perfect on stage also shows the amount of care and effort she was willing to give to promote her music - coming with a heavy toll but still. And then jumping to 2020, putting out music and not caring at all (and yes I do agree that the interviewers were being shitty but Selena could stand on her feet and demand their attention.... like for real she acted so pity sometimes). the doco really bold the fact that Selena lost her confident over the years, not allowing herself to be truly her, being so scared of being vulnerable, and cant accept backlash (which every person and celebrity in particular receives...) surrounding herself with fake friends creating false tranquility thinking only her life are messy. I might sound a bit harsh on our Sel, really don't get me wrong - I think the doco showed another side of the story, but it also showed how entitled celebrities are , thinking "its fate" deciding their future, and not them realizing their the people of their own life's.
chosensparkles Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 4 hours ago, ariananext said: The doc is so good, as someone who lived with a bipolar person it was a bit triggering in some parts, which shows they did a good job at representing how it feels. At the same time it wasn't disturbing for younger/more sensitive people, seeing as some people didn't realize where her disorder was coming out (es when she was being a diva/bitchy to her friend). I agree with the general opinion that it should've been much longer. It wouldn't be an issue if nothing happened in those years, but they were crucial, so the time jump wasn't great. It was nice that she showed a more raw side of her as she's always been one of the most composed/private celebrities on some aspects. the thing was that they shot Revival tour and BTS, then when she cancelled the tour and went to rehab, they stopped shooting and they shelved the documentary 2017/2018 happened and she wasn't shooting any of it with Alek cause she felt like that footage wouldn't go out. then she called Alek back when she left the hospital after her diagnosis of bipolar and he shot again around there incl. Lose You/Look At Her Now promo/filming, and stuff
Godly Posted November 6, 2022 Author Posted November 6, 2022 The juxtaposition of her Dia de los Muertos look from the Revival tour (one of her biggest serves ever btw) with the retelling of her psychotic break was SO eerie, definitely the scene that had the most impact on me Overall I really enjoyed the documentary even though it gave me whiplash several times with the jumping back and forth and back again, and the big gap between 2016 and 2019 is really felt as a fan. One change I'd have made is to considerably cut down the whole part of the London and Paris radio tours since it's mostly stuff we had already seen a peek of and frankly because it's just not that interesting to see celebrities acting like going through a very superficial interview once in a while is the end of the world. I could sympathize with her still especially since she was coming straight from Kenya but with barely 90 minutes of footage I feel like that time could have been better spent And how heartbreaking is it to hear her say all she wants to be is a mom cause I feel like you could always tell how much she loves children and knowing now she might not be able to get pregnant is devastating... really hope a miracle happens here
Starshine Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 The random Raquelle slander from like 90 mins of footage. I think 30 year old Selena is smart enough to know who’s a real friend or not.
OreGuy Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 This was an interesting watch. It just find it odd and contrasting how raw she is yet the whole docu seems too polished.
midnightdawn Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 Yeah it was interesting. I felt it kind of brushed over the depression/anxiety stuff as well as her other health problems. It also seemed structurally to move around a lot and not really drive home one message. She wants to help others but seems to be struggling herself (like when she got annoyed with the interviewer for finishing the interview when she raised philanthropy).
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