discussion Netflix is in rough shape. This week will determine its future.

[Vrx.]

Hulu stomped on them, HARD

 

Netflix has lost so much because of the following:

- Cancelling good shows after 2-4 seasons

- Focused too much on filling their catalog with crap nobody watches because they've lost their previous catalog to other streaming services 

- Spent too much money on the same shows over and over again

- Has yet to focus on a genre or subgenre with cult followings and develop into an A24-style of production 

 

They CANNOT compete with the other major providers. The Witcher and Stranger Things are the most popular things they have, which are both fantasy based. Instead of focusing on that, they keep digging into reality and teen drama which is a losing genre because they're competing with Tik Tok shorts which will never work. 

[Katamari]

1 hour ago, Vrx. said:

Hulu stomped on them, HARD

 

Netflix has lost so much because of the following:

- Cancelling good shows after 2-4 seasons

- Focused too much on filling their catalog with crap nobody watches because they've lost their previous catalog to other streaming services 

- Spent too much money on the same shows over and over again

- Has yet to focus on a genre or subgenre with cult followings and develop into an A24-style of production 

 

They CANNOT compete with the other major providers. The Witcher and Stranger Things are the most popular things they have, which are both fantasy based. Instead of focusing on that, they keep digging into reality and teen drama which is a losing genre because they're competing with Tik Tok shorts which will never work. 

is that wonho 

 

[Ampersand13]

16 hours ago, M André said:

Netflix is in better shape than disney plus LMAO, no one cares about those old ass shows, thats why they had to create star wars and mcu content, and release all pixar movies there 

So far Netflix has hits show every season of the year, Ozark, Squid game, Stranger things, etc.  If we were talking about HBO max or Amazon prime, then yeah, those are really big competitors that are stealing netflix main audience.

 

13 hours ago, Nebur said:

this netflix is still number one, and as you say those disney children's and adolescent programs have no chance, what happens is that when you are already a giant it is difficult to spread more and with all the streaming competition we have

 

OT As they said before, Netflix should stop paying so much money for those useless movies to those very expensive actors and stop canceling series.

You realize Disney Plus has just added 8 million more subscribers in the first three months of 2022 alone. It's been around for a couple years and already has more than half of Netflix's total subscribers. I wouldn't count them out so easily. I'm not saying they will definitely become bigger or the main streaming service but you make it sound like they are a flop when in reality they are catching up at a nice pace. And look at Nielsen's numbers. Disney+ goes head to head with Netflix in terms of film and is catching up with series. 

[khalyan]

4 hours ago, Vrx. said:

Hulu stomped on them, HARD

 

Netflix has lost so much because of the following:

- Cancelling good shows after 2-4 seasons

- Focused too much on filling their catalog with crap nobody watches because they've lost their previous catalog to other streaming services 

- Spent too much money on the same shows over and over again

- Has yet to focus on a genre or subgenre with cult followings and develop into an A24-style of production 

 

They CANNOT compete with the other major providers. The Witcher and Stranger Things are the most popular things they have, which are both fantasy based. Instead of focusing on that, they keep digging into reality and teen drama which is a losing genre because they're competing with Tik Tok shorts which will never work. 

God Hulu is AWFUL  

 

If Netflix kept their current prices for ad free content, but offered a $6.99 plan with ads would that be comfortable with existing Netflix users?

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, Ampersand13 said:

 

You realize Disney Plus has just added 8 million more subscribers in the first three months of 2022 alone. It's been around for a couple years and already has more than half of Netflix's total subscribers. I wouldn't count them out so easily. I'm not saying they will definitely become bigger or the main streaming service but you make it sound like they are a flop when in reality they are catching up at a nice pace. And look at Nielsen's numbers. Disney+ goes head to head with Netflix in terms of film and is catching up with series. 

GIRL, where?

 

Tha fact that the star wars series is STRUGGLING and the mcu show is already out 

[chris1991]

Are they truly doing that bad? They were bound to slow down, there are only so many people who are going to subscribe!?!

 

It also doesn’t help that for every 100 shows/movies only about 5 are worth watching. 

[Vrx.]

4 hours ago, Katamari said:

is that wonho 

 

No a thot I hooked up w/

 

1 hour ago, khalyan said:

God Hulu is AWFUL  

 

If Netflix kept their current prices for ad free content, but offered a $6.99 plan with ads would that be comfortable with existing Netflix users?

Netflix is terrible compared to Hulu. The Hulu / hbo max bundle alone defecates on whatever 2 penny budget shows Netflix is producing en mass 

[khalyan]

4 minutes ago, Vrx. said:

No a thot I hooked up w/

 

Netflix is terrible compared to Hulu. The Hulu / hbo max bundle alone defecates on whatever 2 penny budget shows Netflix is producing en mass 

Maybe I’m missing something but I just looked at the Hulu/HBO bundle and idk why anyone would get it?  

 

You can get Hulu for $6.99, and HBO Max for $9.99.  But the bundle is $14.99 on top of any Hulu membership you have?  

 

Anyway, there really isn’t anything noteworthy on Hulu anyways, and I get HBO Max for free with my phone plan so there is no incentive for me to even try with Hulu.  

[qurl]

the world in which Netflix would have money problems is contingent upon GROSS misuse of funds. there’s no way they out here charging $20 for subscriptions and being “broke”. there ain’t NO way.

[Katamari]

Just now, Vrx. said:

No a thot I hooked up w/

 

Netflix is terrible compared to Hulu. The Hulu / hbo max bundle alone defecates on whatever 2 penny budget shows Netflix is producing en mass 

whats the difference

 

[Vrx.]

18 minutes ago, khalyan said:

Maybe I’m missing something but I just looked at the Hulu/HBO bundle and idk why anyone would get it?  

 

You can get Hulu for $6.99, and HBO Max for $9.99.  But the bundle is $14.99 on top of any Hulu membership you have?  

 

Anyway, there really isn’t anything noteworthy on Hulu anyways, and I get HBO Max for free with my phone plan so there is no incentive for me to even try with Hulu.  

HBO’s 9.99 is just the base without extras that are included with the Hulu bundle. The content alone defecates on Netflix. Netflix has resorted to its “you may like” and Top 10 system because (spoiler alert) people only watch 2-3 things on the platform and that’s it. It was a UX decision to attempt to retain market share. Same for the flow of episode to episode or once you finish a show flowing into the next show that’s being previewed.

 

Also for the 5 bucks you get the full movie catalog as well as the live show streaming. You can opt out of that to make it cheaper but it’s a 5$ utility for literally 50% more content 

 

5 minutes ago, Katamari said:

whats the difference

 

Doja Cat’s You right plays in the background 

 

[magazine]

Aren't they making profit tho?

[TROPICUM]

Netflix is over

[teresaguidice]

10 hours ago, Bloo said:

The content isn’t the problem. It’s the price. The price hike is the most obvious problem with Netflix

the price will be pretty easily remedied with the ad tier. i think their biggest liability is content, not in the sense of it not being good enough (which it isn't, netflix churns out a lot of garbage), but that they don't have any major IP or franchises. 

[Broken]

9 hours ago, EnoughSaid said:

Prime too but really it’s because of the delivery program but they have better content then Netflix

!!!
 

Invincible, Upload, Reacher, The Boys, The Expanse, etc... are MUCH better than the sh¡t that Netflix constantly flings at us.

 

Netflix used to be one of the best video streaming services and Prime was sh¡t, but now it's the other way around .

[Ampersand13]

1 hour ago, M André said:

GIRL, where?

 

Tha fact that the star wars series is STRUGGLING and the mcu show is already out 

If you look at the last couple weeks and months Disney has put up at least a decent fight in film (which I think is what I initially said). Again, I’m not saying they are on Netflix’s level yet. But their growth is impressive and they still are gaining subscribers at a great rate

[teresaguidice]

33 minutes ago, qurl said:

the world in which Netflix would have money problems is contingent upon GROSS misuse of funds. there’s no way they out here charging $20 for subscriptions and being “broke”. there ain’t NO way.

they're not broke from a P&L standpoint, their valuation is sinking because they didn't meet projection and lost subscribers for the first time last quarter. they still made a shitload of money. but yeah, they do spend like crazy. the gray man cost $200M. i cannot imagine anyone is signing up to netflix or keeping their membership to watch that (but also i'm gay so who knows ). 

[Broken]

Just now, teresaguidice said:

they're not broke from a P&L standpoint, their valuation is sinking because they didn't meet projection and lost subscribers for the first time last quarter. they still made a shitload of money. but yeah, they do spend like crazy. the gray man cost $200M. i cannot imagine anyone is signing up to netflix or keeping their membership to watch that (but also i'm gay so who knows ). 

All that money for a 50% on RT .

 

Every time Netflix releases an " original" movie, you can bet it's going to be sh*t .

 

 

[Jack!]

Meh, whatever they report we know the ads are coming and it will save them, or at least keep them afloat for now. Ad revenue is huge and since it'll be private funding it'll keep them up. As someone mentioned above it'll become a bit of a slaughterhouse between now and Stranger Things 5 though, and when Stranger Things 5 comes and goes they better have a good line-up of new material to match with their competitors, otherwise they will eventually go down completely. Netflix has loyalists at the moment due to its programming that will still help over the next few years. They just need to play their cards right. 

[Aethereal]

I have seen some good old movies being set here or is it just me?

Many of Jen Aniston movies are back.

 

Maybe it's because of the backflash?

[fridayteenage]

1 hour ago, khalyan said:

Maybe I’m missing something but I just looked at the Hulu/HBO bundle and idk why anyone would get it?  

 

You can get Hulu for $6.99, and HBO Max for $9.99.  But the bundle is $14.99 on top of any Hulu membership you have?  

 

Anyway, there really isn’t anything noteworthy on Hulu anyways.

 

 

 

Had as many series nominees as Netflix this year. Thankfully Hoyeon carried the platform on her back.

[Zoe_]

I mean, they paid Daniel Craig $100 million for two sequels for a movie that barely made profit. 

[Mr.Link]

Imagine thinking people will pay for adds  people will flock back to piracy or cable before they do that. 

[blaggot]

well they better get it the **** together

 

if I don’t get S2 & S3 of Heartstopper, there will be hell to pay 

[Bloo]

2 hours ago, teresaguidice said:

the price will be pretty easily remedied with the ad tier. i think their biggest liability is content, not in the sense of it not being good enough (which it isn't, netflix churns out a lot of garbage), but that they don't have any major IP or franchises. 

I agree with the IP issue. This was less prevalent a few years ago when shows like OITNB, House of Cards, Grace & Frankie, etc. were all ongoing. But, Stranger Things and Squid Games are the only big IPs left still going, with the former set to end soon.