KCFan2014 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, tshwark said: After Stronger Kelly gave up, Christina had Feel this moment and Say something years after. Underneath The Tree says HI Yall stuck on features lmao that's the only way she can even get a hit My favorite can still chart Edited June 23, 2022 by KCFan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ab1818 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NausAllien said: You're forgetting the fact "Liberation" came out when Xtina was 20 years into her career after a 6 year break after a flop album In contrast, "Meaning of Life" came out when Kelly was just 14 years into her career, and was a huge underperformance when compared to "Piece By Piece" released just two years prior. The singles also underperformed (Piece one top 10 and one top 25 single). And all the other singles from "Meaning of Life" failed to chart. When everything is taken into account, Christina's "Liberation" did objectively better, even if it didn't produce any hits. I’m going to kindly disagree and say this is a weird take. MOL was still a much more successful album. It debuted at #2 and spent 8 weeks on Billboard 200, with a single that charted and was then nominated for a couple of Grammys. The Meaning Of Life Tour ended up being one of Kelly’s most successful tours selling out every arena date. And this was in 2019, months before her show started. https://www.billboard.com/pro/kelly-clarkson-meaning-of-life-tour-highest-grossing/ Not to mention her Christmas hit “Underneath The Tree” charting and doing so well every year: Speaking of show: her show just picked up 5 more Emmys. She could win 2 other ones this week. I’m sure Christina is just fine though. I just posted all this because numbers are fun ? Edited June 23, 2022 by Ab1818 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelslikeadream Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, NausAllien said: When everything is taken into account, Christina's "Liberation" did objectively better, even if it didn't produce any hits. I'm sorry, but do you understand the meaning of "objectively"? Liberation: - Sold fewer copies - Debuted and peaked lower - Charted for fewer weeks - Had fewer Hot 100 entries (zero) - Tied for GRAMMY noms, but in less impressive categories This is the definition of one album (Liberation) doing objectively worse than the other (MoL). I understand that in your subjective opinion, Liberation was more of a success, but I primarily work with facts and figures when considering a question like the one in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great808 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly by a hair and only because of her personality gigs she’s landed recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted June 23, 2022 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, tshwark said: After Stronger Kelly gave up, Christina had Feel this moment and Say something years after. After Stronger, Kelly had a successful Greatest Hits album, a smash Christmas album (with a single that is getting closer to the Top 10 every year), another #1 album with two hit singles (one of them a Top 10), and a Top 3 album after that with a Platinum single. I wouldn't say she gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCFan2014 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) One can't chart...one can One wears strap on for attention...one is winning Emmy's End of discussion Edited June 23, 2022 by KCFan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshwark Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, MissedTheTrain said: After Stronger, Kelly had a successful Greatest Hits album, a smash Christmas album (with a single that is getting closer to the Top 10 every year), another #1 album with two hit singles (one of them a Top 10), and a Top 3 album after that with a Platinum single. I wouldn't say she gave up. But no impact, no single to be found when the year end chart was released, whether we like or not Feel this moment and Say something smashed hard, doesnt mean kelly is over but Christina started in 99 so it is more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenoftheclouds Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Y'all now that Kelly Can't release her new album because of her divorce. Kelly would've had more success of she had released it Last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50thStateofMind Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Definitely Kelly at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted June 23, 2022 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, tshwark said: But no impact, no single to be found when the year end chart was released, whether we like or not Feel this moment and Say something smashed hard, doesnt mean kelly is over but Christina started in 99 so it is more impressive. Heartbeat Song did make the Year End Hot 100 in 2015. And Piece By Piece was impactful.... it was released months prior and did nothing on the charts, and Kelly did a simple piano performance of it on TV and it shot up to the Top 10 (as did the album). Holiday singles don't chart long enough often times to make the year end Hot 100, but Underneath The Tree has hit the Top 15 of the Hot 100 for the past two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rv1709 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly and it’s not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueberries Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly no one hears/cares about this Christina girl outside pop music forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 23, 2022 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius1111 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 The one who has won Grammys and Emmys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outoftime Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly was able to get solo top ten hit in 2015, while Christina's last hit was in 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharapov Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 neither did. but xtina had a much higher peak and iconicness than the tv host Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erreur2 La Nature Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 hours ago, BionicWooHoo said: Y’all have literally done this thread four times in the last year jfc True and Christina lost every single one of them. OT: Clarkson is still demolishing Aguilera, on every metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Duff Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly and it's not even close. Christmas time Kelly smashes. Other seasons she has her show and The Voice (before). In terms of catalog, I think Kelly's hits are outstreaming Christina's hits. Both of them have Grammys. Kelly has been winning Emmys recently. Not sure what makes you think Christina has more longevity when I don't even see her in the news since 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rv1709 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, KCDC said: The resident local rancher, Kelly Clarkson. ? Edited June 23, 2022 by Rv1709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbo Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momal Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly by far. Wrapped in Red was released 10 years into her career and it sold over 1 million in pure sales in the US (alone). Even her GH album outsold Keeps Gettin' Better so it must be her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarthJang Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Kelly ofc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicWooHoo Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Erreur2 La Nature said: True and Christina lost every single one of them. OT: Clarkson is still demolishing Aguilera, on every metric. You make the same topic four times within a short time span catered to obsessed Xtina haters and you expected a different result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erreur2 La Nature Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, BionicWooHoo said: You make the same topic four times within a short time span catered to obsessed Xtina haters and you expected a different result? Ok grandma… I did not make this thread and haven’t made a thread about Xtina in some months either. Not sure if you wanted to quote someone else or just got lost here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlmercury Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 kelly apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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