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Couplet - Loyalty - Sleep Tight episode run in S3 of Angel is just wow

 

I completely forgot how dark and insane some things were

 

The father will kill the son prophecy, Angel being poisoned with the blood of his baby son, Wesley going rogue:jonny6:

 

The fact that relationship between Angel and Wesley never changed for better after this episode.

 

They really said f*** casual watchers at the time and focused on heavy serialized story for the fans. I don't know if you young people here understand how extraordinary it was to have this serialized show back in early 00s. No one was doing *** like them. And the fact that they went even further with S4. :jonny6:

 

So much to take, such an amazing serialized show. And while watching S3 of Angel I keep thinking of S3 of Buffy where everything was so much fun and camp even when bad things happened, I do understand now why Buffy fans don't like Angel, they really are two completely different shows. And I love the fact that i ADORE both of them for different reasons. 

 

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On 10/25/2024 at 7:28 PM, Inverted said:

I think Angel is already good during season 1 once you give it a chance. The best seasons for me at 1 through 3. X-Files peaked in season 3 and 4. 

alright gonna rewatch Buffy and watch Angel for the first time 

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I tried it out for the first time. 

 

Oh wow. Its a show from the nineties so i didn't expected much but it's unwatchable. 

 

The bad acting, the bad action sequences, the monster makeup :redface:

 

I just can't. It aged like milk

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11 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

I tried it out for the first time. 

 

Oh wow. Its a show from the nineties so i didn't expected much but it's unwatchable. 

 

The bad acting, the bad action sequences, the monster makeup :redface:

 

I just can't. It aged like milk

STAY WITH IT! BEYOND THE FIRST SEASON! WE PROMISE! Stay with it... Buffy was a mid-season replacement on a then-new WB. I promise it gets better.

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11 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

I tried it out for the first time. 

 

Oh wow. Its a show from the nineties so i didn't expected much but it's unwatchable. 

 

The bad acting, the bad action sequences, the monster makeup :redface:

 

I just can't. It aged like milk

Um are you talking about Angel? Ain't no way your saying this about Buffy:rip:

 

oh you mean Season 1. Eh, Get to season 2 & 3. It's some of the best tv period. Not even exaggerating 

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3 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Um are you talking about Angel? Ain't no way your saying this about Buffy:rip:

 

oh you mean Season 1. Eh, Get to season 2 & 3. It's some of the best tv period. Not even exaggerating 

Girl i dare you watch s1 now and tell me you can survive the whole season. I couldn't and I've survived all 15 seasons of supernatural :coffee2:

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3 hours ago, livelikemusic said:

STAY WITH IT! BEYOND THE FIRST SEASON! WE PROMISE! Stay with it... Buffy was a mid-season replacement on a then-new WB. I promise it gets better.

Maybe after i finish a miniseries ive started. 

 

If i get to season 2 and it's still bad I'm coming for both of your necks. @Gorjesspazze9

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1 minute ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

Girl i dare you watch s1 now and tell me you can survive the whole season. I couldn't and I've survived all 15 seasons of supernatural :coffee2:

I did a Buffy re-watch back during the pandemic. I don't remember it being bad. Except that annoying one kid. It's campy but s1 ain't unwatchable 

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16 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

I tried it out for the first time. 

 

Oh wow. Its a show from the nineties so i didn't expected much but it's unwatchable. 

 

The bad acting, the bad action sequences, the monster makeup :redface:

 

I just can't. It aged like milk

Yes, season 1 of Buffy is awful. It's worth it if you keep watching.

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8 hours ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

Maybe after i finish a miniseries ive started. 

 

If i get to season 2 and it's still bad I'm coming for both of your necks. @Gorjesspazze9

Oh honey, you won't be coming for our necks... you will be thanking us! Trust!

 

8 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

I did a Buffy re-watch back during the pandemic. I don't remember it being bad. Except that annoying one kid. It's campy but s1 ain't unwatchable 

I think it's about how some view those '90s episodes... I can see why people would see it as "unwatchable," but I do enjoy the first season.

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Season 1 Finale also is amazing:jonny6:

Buffy's iconic Dress with the leather jacket & Crossbow!! 
I think my favorite S1 episode other then the finale would be episode 3 the witch. That's when I think the series really starts handing the highschool is hell metaphor well. Next is probably Angel, David looked so fine. 

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21 hours ago, Inverted said:

Yes, season 1 of Buffy is awful. It's worth it if you keep watching.

On my recent rewatch I enjoyed it a lot more than Seasons 4, 5 and 7.

 

I don't know if it's because I finally rewatched network show after years of watching crappy streaming shows trying to adjust to current world. 

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Anyway I don't think we ever talked about David's acting and how much he improved in Angel. His range in Angel is really underrated. Just like Sarah was underrated as actress during Buffy I feel like David was too because of his looks and 'wb show' stigma...

 

While he shined as Angelus in S2 of Buffy, he really reached his full potential in Angel, I'm on my 3rd watch and ofc I know everything that happens but the fact I believed him once again that he was gonna forgive Wesley only for him to try to kill him like that. That meltdown in hospital was amazing acting from him. 

 

When he tells Wesley that he is Angel and not Angelus and Wesley doesn't realizes why  :jonny6:

 

 

 

 

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Maybe the user is watching the HD version which makes everything look worse than it actually is

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24 minutes ago, StarsAllAligned said:

Maybe the user is watching the HD version which makes everything look worse than it actually is

That "version" should be delivered Cordelia Chase style.

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I love season one also, sometimes you've just got to watch things for what they are. I finished another re watch of Buffy the other night and I still find the ending really satisfying :clap3: I will truly always be a sucker for this show lol. I'm going to watch angel for the first time soon 

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Just finished Buffy a few days ago. I l loved it and watched for a few months. I'm on the fence whether I'm gonna watch Angel. I tried What We Do In The Shadows but the vampires are ugly so that's kind of jarring. I've watched TVD, True Blood, IWAV, Teen Wolf. I've been thinking about The Originals, Prison Break or Sons Of Anarchy. I've seen most shows already so I've been looking at older stuff since last year. 

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21 hours ago, NoAngelus said:

On my recent rewatch I enjoyed it a lot more than Seasons 4, 5 and 7.

 

I don't know if it's because I finally rewatched network show after years of watching crappy streaming shows trying to adjust to current world. 

Probably nostalgia.

 

12 minutes ago, SharGaga said:

Just finished Buffy a few days ago. I l loved it and watched for a few months. I'm on the fence whether I'm gonna watch Angel. I tried What We Do In The Shadows but the vampires are ugly so that's kind of jarring. I've watched TVD, True Blood, IWAV, Teen Wolf. I've been thinking about The Originals, Prison Break or Sons Of Anarchy. I've seen most shows already so I've been looking at older stuff since last year. 

You should have watched Angel starting with Buffy season 4. They crossed over for two seasons when they were both still on the WB (before Buffy moved to UPN).

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1 hour ago, Inverted said:

You should have watched Angel starting with Buffy season 4. They crossed over for two seasons when they were both still on the WB (before Buffy moved to UPN).

I never watched both series at the same time and, honestly, both can be equally enjoyable in their own right separately.

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23 hours ago, livelikemusic said:

I never watched both series at the same time and, honestly, both can be equally enjoyable in their own right separately.

Yeah, that's definitely true, but I liked watching the 4 episode Faith story arc back to back.

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48 minutes ago, Inverted said:

Yeah, that's definitely true, but I liked watching the 4 episode Faith story arc back to back.

Honestly never knew:

 

Spoiler

Faith was in Angel at all until I watched the series post-Buffy or in TNT re-runs.

 

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1 hour ago, livelikemusic said:

Honestly never knew:

 

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Faith was in Angel at all until I watched the series post-Buffy or in TNT re-runs.

 

It was in ads when the show aired and also it's heavily referenced in Buffy. In one episode at the end of season 4, Buffy returns from LA to confront Angel about helping Faith. Riley finds out where she went is upset with her (and the Initiative drug withdrawal is making him feel worse). Angel follows her back to Sunnydale and apologizes to Buffy for how things left off (they argued at the end of the Angel episode when she confronted him in LA).

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On 10/30/2024 at 5:12 PM, butterflymimi said:

I love season one also, sometimes you've just got to watch things for what they are. I finished another re watch of Buffy the other night and I still find the ending really satisfying :clap3: I will truly always be a sucker for this show lol. I'm going to watch angel for the first time soon 

 

On 10/30/2024 at 5:20 PM, SharGaga said:

Just finished Buffy a few days ago. I l loved it and watched for a few months. I'm on the fence whether I'm gonna watch Angel. I tried What We Do In The Shadows but the vampires are ugly so that's kind of jarring. I've watched TVD, True Blood, IWAV, Teen Wolf. I've been thinking about The Originals, Prison Break or Sons Of Anarchy. I've seen most shows already so I've been looking at older stuff since last year. 

I'm excited for you guys to see Angel, just remember not yo expect Buffy 2.0. And just like Buffy it takes time to land.

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3 hours ago, Inverted said:

It was in ads when the show aired and also it's heavily referenced in Buffy. In one episode at the end of season 4, Buffy returns from LA to confront Angel about helping Faith. Riley finds out where she went is upset with her (and the Initiative drug withdrawal is making him feel worse). Angel follows her back to Sunnydale and apologizes to Buffy for how things left off (they argued at the end of the Angel episode when she confronted him in LA).

I did not come into Buffy until the WB finale in season five. I was seven, lmao. I'm aware of everything else, lmao.

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16 hours ago, livelikemusic said:

I did not come into Buffy until the WB finale in season five. I was seven, lmao. I'm aware of everything else, lmao.

That's actually when I started the show too and I was 10. My parents wouldn't let me watch the show before that so I just watched the ads when they aired and pretended I saw the whole episodes in school when kids talked about it. :rip:

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