base talk Was Taylor ever ‘cancelled’?

[Safe&Sound]

and then the Mayochella thing...

The drag for her political silence

 

It doesnt really affect her, mostly because people who dragged her in 2016-2018 are the people who also hate her long way before and waited her downfall, so they can beat her

 

But again, most of her haters are not really loud during 1989 era. They just sent criticism over her body, her squad,

But when they see chance to tear her down, they did it

[xXavril]

Literally they tried to cancel her and she came back stronger, how can anyone possibly vote yes 

[Mohit]

the looney liberals and SJWs tried very hard but the Queen won as usual. 

[ReH2o]

No

[brenda-walsh]

NO. just because people made jokes about you on twitter and flooded your comments with snake emojis does not mean you were cancelled.

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by brenda-walsh

[brenda-walsh]

32 minutes ago, James_Dean said:

The way this is just a continuation of yesterday's thread 

you already knew someone was gonna make a variation of it 

[Russell22]

They tried but they failed

[suburbannature]

A bunch of snake emojis is not a cancellation 

[enchanted0]

I'd say an attempt of cancellation was done for sure. You just can't deny this unless you're dumb

[Аshanti]

She has survived some snake emojis by drinking lots of wine xD

[What_A_Mess]

It’s weird how atrl gays are pretending that #TaylorSwiftIsOverParty didn’t happen. You bottoms were practically foaming in the mouth.

 

[BrokenMachine]

3 hours ago, Lady Claire said:

No, her sales were never affected nor her touring power. The hate received came from people who never liked her in first place but some of her stans on Twitter really think she was the first popstar to suffer from hate online

 

For me, examples of cancelled singers during eras were Madonna on Erotica, Mariah on Glitter, Xtina on Bionic, Gaga on ARTPOP, Katy on Witness etc. Albums that failed to have similar sales as the prior ones + the girls receiving backlash/hate for anything they did or say, having their careers on risk and so on.

 

 

Basically this 

 

Taylor has been disliked by some people her whole career, but it was until the Kimye gate when everyone came together and got into their hate bandwagon.

 

Was it an actual cancelation? No. That kind of people never consumed her music in the first place.

 

The whole bandwagon was undeserved for her? Yes

[Into The Void]

No one thinks she was cancelled. In the real world no one care about Kimye drama

[Guest]

The revisionism is funny coming from Taylor antis and OTHs. From calling her snake over a bloody kanye-kim lie, slutshaming her over her dating history and literally making fun of sexual assault, she was literally getting cyber bullied by everyone. 

[fridayteenage]

Just now, Morsmordre said:

The revisionism is funny coming from Taylor antis and OTHs. From calling her snake over a bloody kanye-kim lie, slutshaming her over her dating history and literally making fun of sexual assault, she was literally getting cyber bullied by everyone. 

OTHs:

"I never said that, Paris is my friend" teas.

[Into The Void]

People who are cancelled don't go on to sell 1.2 m copies first week and a #1 single followed by another album that sold 800k+ first week. Lol.  She isn't cancellable 

[byzantium]

If you are asking this question what  are  you trying to prove? 

Are you trying to gaslight someone into agreeing that they did not endure significant harassment?

Or are  you  trying to ask a good faith question  about what  canceling means in today's culture. 

[TROPICUM]

Hmm. She got "cancelled" for about a year, then she made her comeback. 

 

I don't think some of you guys know what being cancelled is. It's not being able to get a job or opportunity simply because your name is so tarnished. Her "cancellation" was simply a matter of miscommunication between her and a certain rapper plus a socialité.  That was nothing compared to other cancellations, alas Kevin Spacey. 

 

It was dumb internet middle school type drama that in the end, she was smart enough to twist around in her favour. 

 

So no, in the big context of the word 'cancelled'; she was not. It was more of a hate-train after being the most successful artist in the past decade. I mean, just the fact that she came out of it and later on found success and a bigger fanbase tells you everything you need to know. 

 

I am in no way a Taylor fan, but facts are facts! 

[abrahamjmr]

Her fans love to believe she was so they can potray her as some kind of victim, but all she got was some backlash back then due to that audio Kim Tridashian, or whatever her name is, posted and made viral. People started posting snakes in her Instagram, some "viral tweets" but she was never "cancelled". She was still getting gigs, and the media never went against her - like they have with the likes of Morgan Wallen and Travis Scott. But let's let them believe she was or that people tried.

[Luke Hayes]

They tried to. But they failed.

[bestfiction]

#TaylorSwiftIsOverParty definitely became a huge thing and it's probably the biggest hate train a popstar has experienced since.. Britney 2007 maybe? I think while Taylor was at her peak with 1989, many people really disliked her and the snakegate just resonated with these sentiments, especially considering that she was up against Kanye, who was still very respected back then. Sure, reputation was a successful era and her fanbase wouldn't abandon her as easily, but it was cool to hate on her hence the ridiculous articles about Taylor being tone deaf for saying she had a good year.

I also would like to make it very clear that the "she's playing a victim" narrative is tired and objectively wrong. She was a victim in that situation because she was smeared by a fellow musician who has held a singificant cultural importance. Aren't you supposed to be in the wrong to "play the victim"?

[Аshanti]

1 hour ago, Morsmordre said:

slutshaming her over her dating history

ahhh, late 2012. good times

[More Than A Melody]

No one has ever been canceled.

[More Than A Melody]

2 hours ago, Morsmordre said:

The revisionism is funny coming from Taylor antis and OTHs. From calling her snake over a bloody kanye-kim lie, slutshaming her over her dating history and literally making fun of sexual assault, she was literally getting cyber bullied by everyone. 

 twitter was annoying and the media used her as clickbait because of twitter being annoying, but that's about it. Multiple artists have been in that situation. Lizzo, Ed, Harry, Miley, Ariana, to different degrees, but as soon as you stand out in pop music you're gonna start getting dragged. The difference is that other artists don't dwell on it and she can't stop talking about it.

 

She handled the Kimye situation poorly. No one would've sided with Kanye and people would've (rightfully) dragged him for Famous even if she hadn't said anything, but she had to capitalize on the backlash and give a speech about how "some people are going to try to take credit for your success" when accepting AOTY at the Grammys... then it was proven that she was shown that line.

 

People have no nuance for this type of discussion. Kanye was pushing her to agree to it, probably knowing full well (because of experience) that Taylor wants to be liked so much, especially by her peers, that even if she hated the song and absolutely did not want him to release it, she'd tell him it was okay, simply because he was asking her "nicely". That's why he recorded her.

 

Her claiming her problem was with the line "that b*tch" when it's one of the most common insults thrown around in hip hop music is laughable. She did mention in the full footage that she wouldn't be okay with "that stupid dumb b*tch" but it's absolutely not the same. Considering she said thought the line "owes me sex"... was "crazy but funny", especially, and that he did tell her that he was planning on saying he made her famous, acting like "that b*tch" is the ultimate insult, in context... girl...

 

Clearly she wasn't actually okay with any of it, as she shouldn't. She shouldn't have said she was when he asked, and she should've stayed back and let people drag Kanye over the lyrics without saying anything. He was burying himself with his attitude.

[favorite crime]

She was and y'all are just acting dense on purpose

 

Morgan Wallen was cancelled and went on to be more successful than ever. Sales have nothing to do with it. She was for a fact the most dragged celeb of 2016 after Trump