charts discussion Billboard bans mass buying for digital singles

[Harry]

there goes BoTS chances of getting another #1

[Dreajae]

They're really tired.  

 

But who knew there were so many caveats for stans to exploit? 

[pxxxtrick]

That tweet in the OP… do these people have jobs?

[professor2000]

18 hours ago, truthteller said:

how do they verify this tho 

"If you buy another digital copy of the single it won’t count even with another card or in another tracking week"

 

 

 

18 hours ago, favorite crime said:

thats my question too. can't people just use different emails & vpns to bypass IP-tracking?

 

18 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

Credit card and billing address. They can't count cash tho.

^^^ this right here.  Billing address for the card you’re using.  I guess they could get around this by doing a bunch of prepaid cards though, but WHO is going to go through that kind of trouble to mass buy? 
 

 

 

 

18 hours ago, Marvin said:

Isn't this old news?

No, because previously you could still buy the same song in multiple weeks.  Now it won’t count after the first week purchase.

 

Oh well!  That’s what fanbase get for abusing it 
 

17 hours ago, Pop Art said:

There's still a fairly easy way around this — all an artist has to do is release multiple versions with different UPCs/ISRCs. The song can even be the same, just slap a different cover on on it and give it a different code and the problem is kinda solved.

 

The hard part is as far as I know, there's no way for fans to know if two identical songs with different covers have the same or different UPCs/ISRCs, so stans that bulk buy just to help their fave chart high could potentially be wasting their money if they can't confirm this.

 

The even easier solution is artists just releasing multiple remixes/versions.

 

In conclusion...I don't think BTS is going anywhere from the charts, though their longevity is likely shot at this point unless they do the most releasing remixes as such. (Which they already do, but I mean even more of them,)

and this too.  Labels will still release 16272672762662 remixes and singles with different covers.  But I have a feeling that’s going to be the next rule.  That it’ll have to be SIGNIFICANTLY different than the original version in order for it to count.  

Edited April 22, 2022 by professor2000
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[LustSpell]

They need to start marketing remixes all as the same song. A remix with one changed note would still be considered different. This won't change much aside from making free calls more apparent past week one, because people will just gift as many people $2 to buy the song once just for a good debut.

 

Remixes should only count if they're severely different enough, but that's a hard argument to make because significant means differently to each person. Honestly, I'm just in the boat of counting all remixes as the original song. But if they do the significant remix change, I'm expecting at least :45s - 1:00 of new content at the minimum

Edited April 22, 2022 by LustSpell

[OrgVisual]

Artists can still scam the first week though

 

Besides BTS, all the other fraudulent #1s pretty much freefall on the second week. So this rule doesn't really change anything

[Safe&Sound]

5 minutes ago, Sept said:

Artists can still scam the first week though

 

Besides BTS, all the other fraudulent #1s pretty much freefall on the second week. So this rule doesn't really change anything

This

 

Enlarge radio airplay percentage on H100 formula

[TrieLz]

they are already prepare to not rely on sales anymore.

also this is actually good, now Armys can save their money and focus more to buy their album.

 

also both Dynamite & Butter debut with 32M+ streams, with 0 sales that's alone enough for a top 5/top 10 debut 

they will focus more on youtube & spotify

[Ms. Togekiss]

not Glassdoor, LinkedIn, and Tinder  these people have severe mental health issues 

[Carrie-is-no-1]

All these people saying over for BTS but BTS' first week is always legit  they won't get longevity at #1 but they will still score quick lil #1 after #1.

[Carrie-is-no-1]

32 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

not Glassdoor, LinkedIn, and Tinder  these people have severe mental health issues 

i don't even know some of these platforms 

[Richie]

This is the beginning of the end for BTS

 

[sadnews]

as far as I remember, MRC (nielsen) themselves doesn't collect unique data, but they will ask those platforms to do audit and remove bulk sales.

it was all case by case based on billboard staff's call. not automatic works.

 

like.. the new rule started on January.

Nicki's Do we have problem had 48k sales from barb's mass buying. billboard clearly didn't do order filter with this.

 

anyway, even if they go hard on multiple orders, that will be per platforms. 

so you can still buy all the different versions from itunes, amazon,tidal, merch store etc..

 

 

[ALA]

Maybe they should've done this earlier so Good 4 U could've got its rightful weeks but ok

Edited April 22, 2022 by ALA

[Cruel Summer]

1 hour ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

not Glassdoor, LinkedIn, and Tinder  these people have severe mental health issues 

girl I LOST IT at AARP 

[Nefertiti0]

[Karla Cabello]

poor swifties 

[professor2000]

3 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

not Glassdoor, LinkedIn, and Tinder  these people have severe mental health issues 

 

[DuffStan]

On 4/22/2022 at 4:11 PM, Ms. Togekiss said:

not Glassdoor, LinkedIn, and Tinder  these people have severe mental health issues 

Wow stanning has reached ridiculous lows nowadays.

[fais_2311]

BoTS will find their way.

[Green]

On 4/22/2022 at 10:40 AM, Carrie-is-no-1 said:

All these people saying over for BTS but BTS' first week is always legit  they won't get longevity at #1 but they will still score quick lil #1 after #1.

 

Unless they are against another massive hit like good 4 u

Butter would have peaked at #2 even during the first week against good 4 u without the mass buying. Butter didn't even top the HDD Revenue Chart during the first week, good 4 u was #1 that week thanks to her album release.

 

https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=326741&title=REVENUE-CHART:-GOOD-4-OLIVIA&source=google

 

[Carrie-is-no-1]

1 hour ago, Green said:

 

Unless they are against another massive hit like good 4 u

Butter would have peaked at #2 even during the first week against good 4 u without the mass buying. Butter didn't even top the HDD Revenue Chart during the first week, good 4 u was #1 that week thanks to her album release.

 

https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=326741&title=REVENUE-CHART:-GOOD-4-OLIVIA&source=google

 

Agree, but this year there's hardly any song that hit 400 points for multiple weeks so far... unless Liv does a head to head again with OR2 lead 

[dreampop]

they should have started this rule in early 2020

 

 

 

 

On 4/22/2022 at 7:46 AM, pxxxtrick said:

That tweet in the OP… do these people have jobs?

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[1989]

Not atrl thinking this will hurt Taylor. 

[Superbitch]

Mess nicki say bye bye to your high one week peaks