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[Day 1149] COVID-19 | 673.267M cases 6.746M dead | Jan 21 +170K cases / 792 dead


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2 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

What else can you do?  Vaccines are available for everyone, and they seemingly work.  You can decidedly wear a mask if you want, but many wont.  You can't stay locked up for years, and years, it doesn't solve any issues.  People have the ability to help themselves now, and they if they decide not to, there isn't much more you can do.

The point is, Biden said Trump should resign over a fifth of the deaths that occurred under his own presidency and called him a disgrace to the office for it. Obviously he doesn’t hold himself to that same standard.

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5 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

Vaccines are available for everyone

Including after the proposed 400% price increase? :celestial5:

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On 1/23/2023 at 8:43 PM, Communion said:

Including after the proposed 400% price increase? :celestial5:

They have been available in the US for years now, to anyone who wants one, for free

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17 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

They have been available in the US for years now, to anyone who wants one, for free

Again, and does this include the soon to be coming 400% price increase for Pfizer and others' vaccines? What has been available is irrelevant given that continued booster shots are necessary. 

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22 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

They have been available in the US for years now, to anyone who wants one, for free

That's no longer going to be true starting in April when the emergency declaration ends. 

 

Those without any insurance (including Medicaid) will have to pay $130 per Moderna or Pfizer shot. 

 

Meaning further spread, which means further variants. Which renders all previous gains moot, including new vaccine developments.

 

Only ONE antibody left works against the latest BA2 variant, bebtelovimab. Paxlovid basically isn't effective either.

 

So tens of millions of us, rich and poor, will all be back in the same boat. And NOT just for death either, but Long Covid, which no one's talking about.

 

 

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@Lose My Breath I made an entire thread on this so it wouldn't get lost in the sticky here, because people don't realize what's coming. It's a huge problem. I'll bump that one too though. 

 

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On 1/23/2023 at 2:45 PM, ClashAndBurn said:

The point is, Biden said Trump should resign over a fifth of the deaths that occurred under his own presidency and called him a disgrace to the office for it. Obviously he doesn’t hold himself to that same standard.

You're completely missing the point.

 

Trump actively discouraged vaccines and aided in the politicization of treatments and vaccines which caused MANY unnecessary deaths (and distrust to be frank). Not even a tiny bit comparable to how Biden has handled covid. 

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5 hours ago, on the line said:

Trump actively discouraged vaccines

He literally did not. This is a malicious lie. Trump promoted Operation Warpspeed specifically to roll out vaccines faster. The vaccine companies actually held back news that the vaccines were ready until the election was over so that he wouldn’t get an electoral boost.

 

Trump was problematic on COVID and wanted to rush to a new normal. That included wanting to get rid of social distancing and masking, yes, but also promoting vaccines. In fact, Trump was only one of a few Republicans that has never been anti-vax, even at risk of pushback and being booed at by his base. Criticize his response all you want, but don’t be an intellectually dishonest liar while doing so.

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https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2023/01/1f005239f010-urgent-japan-to-downgrade-covid-19-category-on-may-8-govt-sources.html

 

 

Japan to downgrade the category of COVID in May

 

 

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Right now, in Japan, people wear masks all the time unless they are in secluded areas / in the wilderness. Eateries still have plastic boards to separate different groups. Some hotels still try to stagger the times when guests may eat breakfast. Almost everyone uses the disosable gloves provided to take their good from the buffet table.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/26/covid-roulette-clean-air-ventilation-long-covid

 

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You could see Covid-19 as an empathy test. Who was prepared to suffer disruption and inconvenience for the sake of others, and who was not? The answer was often surprising. I can think, for instance, of five prominent environmentalists who denounced lockdowns, vaccines and even masks as intolerable intrusions on our liberties, while proposing no meaningful measures to prevent transmission of the virus. Four of them became active spreaders of disinformation.

If environmentalism means anything, it’s that our damaging gratifications should take second place to the interests of others. Yet these people immediately failed the test, placing their own convenience above the health and lives of others.

imagine being an environmentalist and yet still shamelessly promote COVID disinformation. 

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