woohoo Posted October 21 Posted October 21 3 minutes ago, khalyan said: I didn't say anything about Kamala. Just that Jill Stein is not an appropriate candidate this election. It's a shame because Jill has single handedly ruined the prospect of having a viable third party with her Russian sponsored grifting. Bingo. I'm open to voting third party but not for that grifter that has been the head of it since I've been able to vote. She's done zero to expand or grow that party. She shows up once every 4 years like a herpes sore then goes away for another 4. 7 2
Communion Posted October 21 Posted October 21 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Jill Stein/Green voters just won't vote if there is no Green candidate on the ballot. Maybe they'll turnout for Claudia De La Cruz, but for the most part, it seems weird to demand they just get over the fact that the Democratic Party has made itself an accessory to one of the most morally objectionable and horrific things that it could possibly do (a genocide), and has pledged it will continue to even if Kamala somehow scrapes herself the most undeserved win of all time, having not even successfully faced the scrutiny of a primary. Nonvoters are generally the largest plurality of the electorate. The couch won over Hillary Clinton in 2016. Jill Stein didn't change that fact, but again. The Democrats can never fail. Only BE failed. Don't worry, the same people who told us 1) Biden was a still viable candidate, 2) Harris is going to easily sweep all 7 swing states by making appeals to 90s Republicans, and 3) taking a mad dash to the far right including campaigning for genocide is actually great for elections, etc. are going to assure us they're still right. Trust the process. Liz Cheney is collecting ballots in swing states as we speak. 1 2 1 1
Tovitov Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Just now, Armani? said: I like the way they think. Gonna go ***** slap Maggie Haberman and Bret Stevens on November 6th. 1
ClashAndBurn Posted October 21 Posted October 21 2 minutes ago, khalyan said: I didn't say anything about Kamala. Just that Jill Stein is not an appropriate candidate this election. It's a shame because Jill has single handedly ruined the prospect of having a viable third party with her Russian sponsored grifting. I updated my statement to clarify that I don't think you were. That said, the Greens were screwed over by Cornel West acting like he was going to run as their candidate and then backing out at the last minute, leaving Stein to have to throw together an emergency campaign so that the Green Party could have anyone at all on the ballot. As far as I've heard, if they had just sat out an election and not ran anyone, that would make ballot access even harder to achieve in future contests. Which, hey, I guess many here would love that. But from their standpoint it would mean complete political annihilation for them when they already struggle against Democrats suing their candidates off the ballots and they don't have funding for legal defenses against that. 1 2
GhostBox Posted October 21 Posted October 21 CNN and msnbc showing Harris's event. Fox showing Trump in NC
Tovitov Posted October 21 Posted October 21 I'd have more sympathy for Jill Stein if the people in her orbit stopped saying their only goal is to stop Harris from winning. 4 1 2
FameFatale Posted October 21 Posted October 21 3 minutes ago, GhostBox said: CNN and msnbc showing Harris's event. Fox showing Trump in NC What do you think about that green suit? I'm gagging but i'm a fashion girlie.
Communion Posted October 21 Posted October 21 It's 2 weeks from election day, enthusiasm is crashing in every key swing state amongst her base, and her final campaign bid to voters is to campaign with a Republican who lost their House seat by 30 points in an event moderated by a venture capitalist, Log Cabin Republican, and contributor to The Bulwark. This election is so stupid 1 2 1 6
Tovitov Posted October 21 Posted October 21 2 minutes ago, FameFatale said: What do you think about that green suit? I'm gagging but i'm a fashion girlie. She looks great in Emerald. 1
GhostBox Posted October 21 Posted October 21 2 minutes ago, FameFatale said: What do you think about that green suit? I'm gagging but i'm a fashion girlie. She looks great 👏🏼 this is such a good event too 1
Popular Post superglowy Posted October 21 Popular Post Posted October 21 23 minutes ago, Communion said: Again, it's just derangement removed from reality. You're not entitled to votes. Not wanting to support Kamala is not the same as wanting to support Trump. If you can't even accept this basic premise to how voting works in the context of genocide, yes, you are driven by a hatred of a certain ethnic or religious group. The absolute stupidity of this statement is astounding. The fact you cannot have a discussion without throwing around outrageous and purposely provocative accusations simply in a pathetic attempt to silence people and get their back up against the wall is astounding. Let me give it a try. You do not value women. You see their rights as expendable and your own sense of moral superiority and need for revenge against the establishment to validate your own political beliefs more important than protecting the rights of women, minorities, LGBTQ people. You, I would hope, are disgusted at Republicans who decree that an 11 year old incest victim should carry their fathers child, but it doesn't bother you ENOUGH to cause you to stop those who would want this to become the norm of the land to gain the power to do so. You care more to punish the residents of a country where you do have a voice to change absolutely nothing in a country where you don't have a voice. Why do you hate Women? Why is stopping children from having to carry their fathers incest baby not enough to motivate you? 17 1 1
GhostBox Posted October 21 Posted October 21 1 minute ago, Communion said: It's 2 weeks from election day, enthusiasm is crashing in every key swing state amongst her base, and her final campaign bid to voters is to campaign with a Republican who lost their House seat by 30 points in an event moderated by a venture capitalist, Log Cabin Republican, and contributor to The Bulwark. This election is so stupid And yet they are all doing more to defeat Trump than you or Jill stein is 💃🏽💃🏽 2
ClashAndBurn Posted October 21 Posted October 21 1 minute ago, superglowy said: The absolute stupidity of this statement is astounding. The fact you cannot have a discussion without throwing around outrageous and purposely provocative accusations simply in a pathetic attempt to silence people and get their back up against the wall is astounding. Let me give it a try. You do not value women. You see their rights as expendable and your own sense of moral superiority and need for revenge against the establishment to validate your own political beliefs more important than protecting the rights of women, minorities, LGBTQ people. You, I would hope, are disgusted at Republicans who decree that an 11 year old incest victim should carry their fathers child, but it doesn't bother you ENOUGH to cause you to stop those who would want this to become the norm of the land to gain the power to do so. You care more to punish the residents of a country where you do have a voice to change absolutely nothing in a country where you don't have a voice. Why do you hate Women? Why is stopping children from having to carry their fathers incest baby not enough to motivate you? What are Democrats in the federal government doing to underage incest victims in red states with oppressive abortion bans from carrying those babies to term? What did they do when they had both chambers of Congress in 2009, 2010, 2021 and 2022? I will tell you this. Democrats were entirely unconcerned about abortion rights when they had 60 votes in the Senate because they knew it could be used as a political cudgel. 3 1
Lightbringer007 Posted October 21 Posted October 21 me and my mom just submitted our ballots today! made sure to do it before the chaos of ED go out and vote yall! 7
Communion Posted October 21 Posted October 21 (edited) 10 minutes ago, superglowy said: The absolute stupidity of this statement is astounding. You're British which makes the eager, completely by choice defending of Harris' endorsement of genocide even worse FYI. 9 minutes ago, GhostBox said: And yet they are all doing more to defeat Trump- I don't know if this is true based on those Nevada figures, sis! Edited October 21 by Communion 1 2
Sannie Posted October 21 Posted October 21 10 minutes ago, superglowy said: The absolute stupidity of this statement is astounding. The fact you cannot have a discussion without throwing around outrageous and purposely provocative accusations simply in a pathetic attempt to silence people and get their back up against the wall is astounding. Let me give it a try. You do not value women. You see their rights as expendable and your own sense of moral superiority and need for revenge against the establishment to validate your own political beliefs more important than protecting the rights of women, minorities, LGBTQ people. You, I would hope, are disgusted at Republicans who decree that an 11 year old incest victim should carry their fathers child, but it doesn't bother you ENOUGH to cause you to stop those who would want this to become the norm of the land to gain the power to do so. You care more to punish the residents of a country where you do have a voice to change absolutely nothing in a country where you don't have a voice. Why do you hate Women? Why is stopping children from having to carry their fathers incest baby not enough to motivate you? Sorry sis, but you're not allowed to use their own argumentative format against them. It's, like, against the rules or something. 1 1 5
suneclipse121 Posted October 21 Posted October 21 12 minutes ago, Communion said: It's 2 weeks from election day, enthusiasm is crashing in every key swing state amongst her base, and her final campaign bid to voters is to campaign with a Republican who lost their House seat by 30 points in an event moderated by a venture capitalist, Log Cabin Republican, and contributor to The Bulwark. This election is so stupid You're such an ick. 6
Communion Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Just now, suneclipse121 said: You're such an ick. Do you think Liz Cheney hates the lesbian moderator like she hates her lesbian sister? 1 1 1 1
Relampago. Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Oh how I love the Monday morning discussions in this thread Decent polls today and nice news from Emerson and AP. At least after this week, I have a short week next week since I took off a lot of time around ED. Hopefully that speeds up time cause I'm tired of waiting. 2
Gaia Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Kamala's incessant need to keep stating she's putting republicans in her cabinet because she wants "good ideas" is such mixed messaging from "Republicans har har Project 2025 har har" I get it. But you can't demonize the right then claim you want them on your team for good ideas 8
Blade Posted October 21 Posted October 21 @Communion kinda acting up so let me post this guy again in 2
Lil Mistee Posted October 21 Posted October 21 50 minutes ago, Communion said: Again, it's just derangement removed from reality. You're not entitled to votes. Not wanting to support Kamala is not the same as wanting to support Trump. If you can't even accept this basic premise to how voting works in the context of genocide, yes, you are driven by a hatred of a certain ethnic or religious group. You're weird, like how do you even get that from my post 💀. 1 1
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted October 21 Author ATRL Moderator Posted October 21 Just finished voting! Waited in line for one hour and five minutes. Quite remarkable, I think the most I’ve ever waited to vote early is 20 minutes before. 2 12
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