superglowy Posted October 20 Posted October 20 2 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said: I'll take the "it's over!!!!" now I guess because the pendulum always swings, so that maybe in two weeks it'll be omg we have a chance, I guess Best to just tune out the noise, Election models are being flooded with subpar and poor rated pollsters and the media are clearly pulling for a Trump win. Crazy it's only 17 days away, October is just flying by. 1 1
Tovitov Posted October 20 Posted October 20 3 minutes ago, superglowy said: Best to just tune out the noise, Election models are being flooded with subpar and poor rated pollsters and the media are clearly pulling for a Trump win. Crazy it's only 17 days away, October is just flying by. I have felt every minute of every hour 10
Relampago. Posted October 20 Posted October 20 15 minutes ago, Sannie said: But couldn't we argue that this would just increase the Democratic turnout because they think they're going to lose so they do what they can to win? I know I shouldn't put anything past the Republican apparatus, but it just feels very insidious to be like, "they're all in to help push this stolen narrative". anyways, I'm asking questions we probably will never know the answer to. I just hate how nonsensical. I think it makes a lot of sense that they'd do this honestly. If Trump is seen as a weak candidate who has no chance, Republicans are more likely to toss him aside and not vote or even vote for the candidate they see as "stronger". They crave power and control, so if the narrative that he's winning, they'll be more enthusiastic and will go out to vote. Meanwhile, democrats are kings of dooming and overreacting, so if they don't see a chance to win… they'll probably just give up. I mean, look at what happened when it looked Joever after the first debate. Everyone was ready to leave Joe in the dust. 2
superglowy Posted October 20 Posted October 20 3 minutes ago, Tovitov said: I have felt every minute of every hour Don't know why this was showing I liked this post when I didn't. i miss the days when Elections were just when Republicans would whine about the gays to get in and get Tax cuts, now its literally democracy and human rights at stake. Drink. A lot. A Morning orange and vodka is HIGHLY underrated. 1
Blade Posted October 20 Posted October 20 I know it's as simple as 2^7 but its crazy that there are 128 ways this can play out (more if you think we get a surprise in something like NE-02, ME-02, or Alaska) One of the election outcomes is likely in that chart and we just don't know which one.
ClashAndBurn Posted October 20 Posted October 20 @khalyan do you believe she wants the left to vote for her? What evidence is there to support this? She's been seen campaigning with the Cheneys but has she even acknowledged progressives one time since the DNC? She got Bernie and AOC to simp over her and insist she was working tirelessly for a ceasefire and all they got in return was "I want a Republican in my cabinet and to have an advisory board filled with Republican voices" in the home stretch of the election. While also saying that October 7 was the real tragedy and not the subsequent siege that has taken the lives of many thousands more noncombatants. It's clear she has nothing but the purest disdain for the left. Same goes for every elected Democrat at this point. They want us out of the big tent. 2
Armani? Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Did Trump cancel his barbershop visit just to pretend to be a McDonald's worker? 3
superglowy Posted October 20 Posted October 20 5 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: @khalyan do you believe she wants the left to vote for her? What evidence is there to support this? She's been seen campaigning with the Cheneys but has she even acknowledged progressives one time since the DNC? She got Bernie and AOC to simp over her and insist she was working tirelessly for a ceasefire and all they got in return was "I want a Republican in my cabinet and to have an advisory board filled with Republican voices" in the home stretch of the election. While also saying that October 7 was the real tragedy and not the subsequent siege that has taken the lives of many thousands more noncombatants. It's clear she has nothing but the purest disdain for the left. Same goes for every elected Democrat at this point. They want us out of the big tent. I don't think she has disdain for the Progressive Left, it's just for a lot of them the 'buy in' to win their vote is so high it has a good chance of chasing off Moderates/Independents/Disenfranchised Republicans who are probably a larger voting bloc and easier to win over. If Harris was to go all in on progressives and promise and champion their wants, she would be hammered with the SOCIALISM!!! card so hard it would sink her campaign. Progressive left policies and beliefs ARE the future I believe, but I think it will be like Gay Rights where it will take time for the pendulum to tilt in that direction. 2
parvatishallow Posted October 20 Posted October 20 21 minutes ago, Relampago. said: I think it makes a lot of sense that they'd do this honestly. If Trump is seen as a weak candidate who has no chance, Republicans are more likely to toss him aside and not vote or even vote for the candidate they see as "stronger". They crave power and control, so if the narrative that he's winning, they'll be more enthusiastic and will go out to vote. Meanwhile, democrats are kings of dooming and overreacting, so if they don't see a chance to win… they'll probably just give up. I mean, look at what happened when it looked Joever after the first debate. Everyone was ready to leave Joe in the dust. Yeah, we couldn't escape the amount of people who were already referring the race as over in JULY. And it probably was nearly impossible to Biden to overcome but it shouldn't have been that easy for everyone to just forget how terrible and weak of a candidate trump is. Basically democrats underestimate their own ability to doom themselves into a shitty situation.
ClashAndBurn Posted October 20 Posted October 20 4 minutes ago, superglowy said: I don't think she has disdain for the Progressive Left, it's just for a lot of them the 'buy in' to win their vote is so high it has a good chance of chasing off Moderates/Independents/Disenfranchised Republicans who are probably a larger voting bloc and easier to win over. If Harris was to go all in on progressives and promise and champion their wants, she would be hammered with the SOCIALISM!!! card so hard it would sink her campaign. Progressive left policies and beliefs ARE the future I believe, but I think it will be like Gay Rights where it will take time for the pendulum to tilt in that direction. Not even referring to leftists that are rightly disgusted with her and refuse to throw their support behind a genocidal rape hoax pusher. She's pursuing policies that alienate progressives that have already pledged their support for her. Like AOC and Bernie. 2
Vroom Vroom Posted October 20 Posted October 20 2 minutes ago, Lil Mistee said: I wanna see the polls a week out hehe! I don't. No more polls please. Let's just skip to the results and move on with our lives If Trump wins, dems better get the house. He does not need another trifecta. But I kind of have accepted who ever is winning the presidency is winning the house. And the senate is going to the Republicans pretty much no matter what 1
Ashley Banks Posted October 20 Posted October 20 I just can't look at polls anymore The election is going to be super close so there's going to be some polls with Kamala slightly ahead and some with her slightly behind. There's no sense in going crazy over it. After I cast my ballot, I might just tune out all political news until November 5th.
woohoo Posted October 20 Posted October 20 What scares me is trump has Kenneth Copeland and these other pastors in his ear that want gay people dead and jailed. And that mother fucker is just evil enough to do it. I really think people are underestimating just how awful trump will be this second term. It's terrifying 5
superglowy Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Just now, ClashAndBurn said: Not even referring to leftists that are rightly disgusted with her and refuse to throw their support behind a genocidal rape hoax pusher. She's pursuing policies that alienate progressives that have already pledged their support for her. Like AOC and Bernie. If America wasn't on the precipice of a potential Conservative Dictatorship with severe repercussions for the most vulnerable Americans for decades to come, or even if Trumps win would result in an end to the Palestinian genocide, I would see the appeal to sinking Kamala's campaign, but seeing as Trump would probably go further in exacerbating the Genocide, it brings up the unfortunately dark question Americans must contend with, is it right to vote for the lessor of two evils in the hope of 'some flowers out of the ****'. The idea behind proactively voting against Democrats to help Republicans seemed to be creating the situation that Democrats wouldn't be able to see any power without the help of progressives, thus causing progressivism to bleed into the democrat platform, but that unfortunately has not happened, so what good results from Kamala losing other than some sense of 'moral victory' which even that would be blunted by that Trump would be worse. 1 2
Musicmajor Posted October 20 Posted October 20 At this point, no longer looking at polls. Early voting numbers, momentum and enthusiasm are all on Kamala's side. The polls are not taking Into account all of the new women who registered and are voting. The only battleground state I'm worried about it Michigan because of her stance on Gaza, so that one I think is a toss up (hope I'm wrong). 2
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